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The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« on: December 14, 2013, 06:29:49 AM »
From the WRAL news site on December 11, 2013:

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(Durham Police Chief Jose) Lopez said that Officer Samuel Duncan picked up (Jesus) Huerta early on Nov. 19 in response to a call about a runaway and learned that he had a warrant out for his arrest on a second-degree trespassing charge.

By 2 a.m., according to police, Huerta was dead – his hands still cuffed behind him, slumped over in the back seat of the car outside the Durham Police Department – and a handgun was found in the floorboard of the patrol car.

The family has been upset with the lack of information forthcoming about the details of the November 19 death of the 17 year old. Huerta's mother had called the Durham, NC Police Department. This is what was known the day after the shooting, from the family:

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Huerta’s mother, Sylvia Fernandez, said Wednesday that her son ran away from the family apartment on Washington Street, and she wanted police to help. Fernandez, who doesn’t speak English, asked her daughter to call police.

In a recording of the 911 call, the sister told the call-taker they were worried because the teen was using drugs and once tried to take his own life. But the family said Wednesday Huerta never tried to kill himself.

Chief Lopez compounded the sensitive nature of this shooting by releasing few, if any, actual details other than the following:

1. Officer Samuel Duncan picked up the juvenile around 2 a.m., searched him and placed him in the back of a patrol car with his hands cuffed behind his back.
2. Once Officer Duncan arrived at the precinct parking lot, he heard a gunshot at close range, so he jumped out of the car while it was moving. (The car rolled into a van.)
3. The officer reported shots fired (plural) and requested medical assistance.
4. The officer radioed "gunshot wound. Approximately 18-year-old male, not breathing."
5. The officer's weapon had not been fired and the shot came from inside the vehicle.

 Chief Lopez called a news conference and restated the above, and then refused to answer any questions, citing "an ongoing investigation, pending results from an autopsy." This did not sit well with the family and the civil rights hustlers in Durham, so a march was called and some vandalism occurred. The family produced a petition with more than 18,000 signatures demanding an FBI investigation. There was one single fact known to the police at the time of the shooting, but for some reason, Chief Lopez wanted to keep it a secret: a handgun was found in the floorboard of the cop car. Had Lopez release this tiny bit of information, perhaps all of the drama could have been avoided.

After the results of the autopsy were released, the Police Chief issued a statement, basically saying that the kid, accidentally or on purpose, shot himself. (See: http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2013/12/11/13206609/lopezstatement.pdf)

Well now. The Durham Civil Rights hustlers are still going to make a big deal about this.

When the results were released, the Chief, for the first time, made public the important fact that there was a gun in the back seat of the car. One can rightfully speculate that Officer Duncan either failed to properly search Huerta, or he failed to search him at all. Apparently, Chief Lopez was trying to protect his officer and the department by not speaking to the public initially about Huerta's handgun.

For some reason, Durham's Police Chief decided that the public did not need to know about the hand gun from the date of the shooting, November 19, to the day the statement was released, December 11. This being said, anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge regarding police procedures could have come to the conclusion that the kid was not properly searched and shot himself in the head. After all, Lopez stated that the shot came from inside the vehicle and the officers weapon had not discharged. Lopez just couldn't bring himself to let the public know that a hand gun was found in the back floorboard of the patrol car.

I would speculate that the Huerta family secures the services of a big time trial attorney to sue the Durham Police Department for failure to properly execute search procedures resulting in the death of the troubled 17 year old. And once again, the Durham taxpayers shell out to pay or defend for the incompetence of its police department.

Is there a more messed up place in North Carolina than Durham?
« Last Edit: December 14, 2013, 07:06:15 AM by BigAlSouth »
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2013, 07:49:09 AM »
No.
“My mission today is to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches, and part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.

“However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2013, 01:03:30 PM »
The bizzare becomes typical more and more...
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 05:16:12 AM »
What did I say about the "Civil Rights Hustlers"? Apparently there is no such thing as an unjust cause. "Chuy" Huerta, a disturbed 17 year old, shoots himself in the head, in the back of a police car, after failing to be searched properly, and by God, all hell's gonna break loose until the Police does something about it.

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Durham, N.C. — A vigil planned as a peaceful remembrance of a teen killed in police custody ended with tear gas and arrests Thursday night in downtown Durham.

About 200 friends and supporters of Jesus Huerta faced off with law enforcement officers one month after the teen died of a gunshot wound while in the back of a police cruiser. By evening's end, several of them were in police custody.

Huerta, 17, was picked up Nov. 19 on an outstanding second-degree trespassing charge from July. Durham Police said he shot himself in the head after he had been searched, handcuffed and placed in the car. Since Huerta's death, his friends and family members have demanded a federal investigation into the Durham Police Department about his death and possible "patterns and practices" of civil rights violations within the department.

"Chuy is with us," said Huerta's sister, Evelin Huerta, using his nickname. "Our brother is always with us and will never leave our side."

Although the assembly was billed as a peaceful event, Durham police massed in riot gear, with tear gas masks on their hips and billy clubs in hand, even before Huerta supporters arrived. By the end of the evening, several were under arrest, although police did not say how many or what their charges would be.

Before the vigil turned ugly, Huerta's friend Brandon Moreno promised Thursday's march would not end in the vandalism that marked an earlier march. On Nov. 22, protesters broke windows at police headquarters on West Chapel Hill Street.

"No violence because his family got mad about that. There is going to be no violence," Moreno said.

The vigil began with candlelight, signs and flowers. Gradually it got louder, with participants shouting obscenities to the beat of a drum as they marched from CCB Plaza to the police HQ. There, officers held the line and protesters reversed course.

When they returned to CCB Plaza, the gathered people got "disruptive," Chief Jose Lopez said, and officers demanded that the crowd disperse.

“Our primary concern was to protect the public as well as the protesters. Some arrests were made and officers were forced to deploy teargas to disperse the crowd after rocks and bottles were thrown at the police," Lopez said.

“I couldn’t be more proud of the restraint and professionalism demonstrated by our officers tonight. This had the potential to be much worse,” he said.

The Durham Chamber of Commerce and Board of Realtors hardest hit.

See: http://www.wral.com/durham-police-to-closely-monitor-vigil-planned-for-teen/13234635/
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2013, 11:42:51 AM »
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DURHAM (WTVD) -- The mysterious death of 17-year-old Jesus Huerta in Durham police custody is now getting the attention of a federal official.

Police say an officer placed the teen in the back of a patrol car November 19 after he was arrested on a second-degree trespassing charge. As the car pulled into the police department parking lot around 2:30 in the morning, the officer reported hearing a loud bang and he jumped out of the moving car, which then rolled into parked vehicles.

Huerta was found dead of a gunshot wound in the back of the cruiser. Police have said gunshot residue was found in gloves Huerta was wearing and no residue was found on the officer's hands. It has also said the gun did not belong to a police officer.

Was that so hard to put out in public? So what is the Federal Government going to do to change the apparent facts? The kid wasn't searched properly. He had a gun. He managed to shoot himself in the head. What is the mystery here?
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2014, 01:30:56 PM »
Did the gloves fit?
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 02:50:30 PM »
The Durham police chief's text to city manager was obtained via FOI. It states the obvious:

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"(Seventeen) yr old male was arrested, but not searched well and had a gun concealed, shot himself in back of police car while at the rear of police headquarters. He has died," Chief Jose Lopez wrote in a message received at 3:32 a.m. Nov. 19 by City Manager Tom Bonfield.

Someone tell me why this info was withheld for six weeks, allowing the civil rights hustlers to gin up thousands of Durham residents (with nothing else to do but protest and break things) for the typical march on City Hall?

See: http://www.wral.com/durham-police-chief-s-text-huerta-not-searched-well-/13302319/
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Re: The (not so) Strange Death of Jesus Huerta
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 07:45:24 AM »
a) Has the gun been directly connected to Huerta?  Kinda important to establish that.

b) If they did a lousy job of searching, looks like an easy lawsuit for the family against the city.

c) Late arriving discoveries always set my sniffer off!
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