Topic: They never quit

[charlesoakwood]

http://federalnewsradio.com/index.php?nid=35&sid=2345684

,,,the Homeland Security Department will have far-reaching oversight over all civilian agency computer networks.
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  ...expanding DHS's cyber responsibilities for civilian networks.

The administration drafted a legislative proposal [the WH writes law, wa what happened to congress?]to give DHS many, if not all, of the same authorities for the .gov networks that the Defense Department has for the .mil networks.
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"I have to question why the Executive branch is writing legislation," said the source, ...White House usually sends to Capitol Hill. This is the actual legislation."
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.... DHS sent the document around to agencies late last Friday and asked for comments by Monday.
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"The cybersecurity legislation being developed in Congress is a large, complex bill with wide-ranging implications, and several Senate committees are involved in its drafting," said committee spokeswoman Leslie Phillips.
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[To]establish a [another bureaucratic agency with no congressessional oversight that will run roughshod over we peasants]National Center for Cybersecurity and Communications in DHS.

"It would be located within the Department of Homeland Security to elevate and strengthen the Department's ...[hooks in your jaw]


NCCCnDHS

[John Florida]

 

[OLJingoist]

Well folks now that the "OBAMA REGIME" has come out of hiding the real agenda is displayed.
I warn you all it is already on. And almost end game.
Charles I believe you see what I see.
There is no 2012 election going to happen. We will no longer be free by then.

[RickZ]

Well folks now that the "OBAMA REGIME" has come out of hiding the real agenda is displayed.
I warn you all it is already on. And almost end game.
Charles I believe you see what I see.
There is no 2012 election going to happen. We will no longer be free by then.

Now see, I think there will be elections in 2012*.  My concern is what happens if/when Ogabe is soundly trounced, as well as the Senate going over to the Republicans and the House Republicans increasing their majority.  That creates a lame duck aspect which I fear.  Ogabe being soundly rejected could just be the trigger to unleash his inner Uncle Joe, for our own good.  With a lame duck Senate, we can look to no help from that quarter.  It's time to end this lame duck nonsense.  Once the elections are done, have the next session of Congress in session/presidential inauguration before Thanksgiving, at the earliest, the week following Thanksgiving at the latest.

* This presupposes nothing untoward happening, such as a major terror attack either from outside or a ginned up, Reichstag fire-like, from inside.  That would be a crisis too good to waste and would, again, allow Ogabe to unleash his inner Uncle Joe.  As this would be before the elections, he could declare martial law and suspend the election.  Then there would be total chaos, which is what Ogabe wants as it would give further impetus to cracking down on the citizenry who object to his necessary, but benevolently dictatorial, measures.  With the police unions in his pocket, who knows how such a scenario would play out?

[OLJingoist]

Rick time will tell.
But I believe differently. It is already on. Please read all info available and then look at the BIG picture.
The regime is not inept. They are right on schedule.
Remember they said Joe McCarthy saw conspiracies (commies) everywhere. Well look at what we have now. Was he crazy? No just a super patriot that approached it wrong. What he new was that liberalism is communistic by it's very nature, and fought it with all his heart.
I should have the honor of being that courageous.

[AmericanPatriot]

RickZ, you seem so certain that Zero will be trounced
Wish I had your confidence.
I know polls don't matter, but only a few outright beat him.
And those who do would only be marginally better than him.


Senate and house?
We need to clean out our own in the primaries

Then we have the damage that will be done by Zero between now and then

Obamacare is here to stay because our side has no spine, for example

[RickZ]

OLJingoist,

Don't get me wrong, I think Obama is an evil bast*rd which he tries to cover up with a faux folksy manner.  But I think he played his totalitarian hand too early, losing the House last election.  If that hadn't happened, god knows where we'd be right now with the troika of Obama/Pelosi/Reid in power.  I also think that he is not inept, stupid, but not inept.  My comment on that is, 'What would Obama be doing different if he wanted to destroy the US than he's doing right now?'  The answer is, 'Not much'.  He's already nationalized a huge chunk of private enterprise (health, auto, banking, student loan, et.al.), accelerated the downfall of both the commercial and private real estate markets, ruined our currency, raised our debt to unsustainable levels, trashed our allies while cozying up to tin pot dictators and theocratic thugs, killed DADT hurting both the morale of our military and reenlistment, and pretty much lied through his teeth with every speechifying he makes while partying like he's a divine right king living in Versailles issuing edicts to us peasants.  I'm sure there's more, like the expansion of government employees hence unions.

Times are dire and I do not doubt the evil that is in every fiber of that transnational progressive bast*rd's being, I just think he shot his wad too early.  I hope I'm right and you're wrong, but like you say, time will tell -- and there's not a lot of time with which to play around.

[RickZ]

RickZ, you seem so certain that Zero will be trounced
Wish I had your confidence.
I know polls don't matter, but only a few outright beat him.
And those who do would only be marginally better than him.

Polls are mostly run by Democrat leaning organizations and mostly poll Democrats.  Think back to Reagan in 1980.  No one voted for him yet he won in a landslide.  I also think Obama will be trounced due to the economy he's ruined.  When you hit people in the pocketbook through housing, food, and fuel prices, you've hit the negative trifecta.  Go back to that TEA Party rally in DC in September '09.  Almost 2 million people voting with their presence against the bast*rd.  Don't forget last November's tectonic shift in state governments to red.  That bodes very well for stopping Obama in 2012.  The only thing we need is a solid candidate, not one due up like a Dole or a McCain.  I'm not thrilled about the roster of future candidates, but it is still quite early.  I'm leaning right now toward Herman Cain (can you imagine him running with West in the Veep slot?), as I'm tired of professional politicians and lawyers sitting in the Oval Office.  But at the same time, I do not want Trump in there, either.  As much as I like Palin, I think she's been attacked and ridiculed so much that she probably does not have a shot.  All the rest of the '08 retreads s*ck.  And forget an old guard RINO like Eye of Newt (I can never forgive him for his endorsement of Scuzzybean in NY-23's special election nor sitting on the couch with Madame Pelousy for that glowbull worming photo op).  The best politician and potential candidate for our side is Paul Ryan, but I do not think he wants to run.

[OLJingoist]

OLJingoist,

Don't get me wrong, I think Obama is an evil bast*rd which he tries to cover up with a faux folksy manner.  But I think he played his totalitarian hand too early, losing the House last election.  If that hadn't happened, god knows where we'd be right now with the troika of Obama/Pelosi/Reid in power.  I also think that he is not inept, stupid, but not inept.  My comment on that is, 'What would Obama be doing different if he wanted to destroy the US than he's doing right now?'  The answer is, 'Not much'.  He's already nationalized a huge chunk of private enterprise (health, auto, banking, student loan, et.al.), accelerated the downfall of both the commercial and private real estate markets, ruined our currency, raised our debt to unsustainable levels, trashed our allies while cozying up to tin pot dictators and theocratic thugs, killed DADT hurting both the morale of our military and reenlistment, and pretty much lied through his teeth with every speechifying he makes while partying like he's a divine right king living in Versailles issuing edicts to us peasants.  I'm sure there's more, like the expansion of government employees hence unions.

Times are dire and I do not doubt the evil that is in every fiber of that transnational progressive bast*rd's being, I just think he shot his wad too early.  I hope I'm right and you're wrong, but like you say, time will tell -- and there's not a lot of time with which to play around.

Rick you talk about what he is doing or has done via national media. What I speak of is the off news article that should go national and you hear nothing by any national media.
Over the last few years these things have shown a developing pattern that does not bode well for us.
We are both patriots who don't necessarily see things the same way. And as I said time will tell.
Semper Fi my friend.

[rickl]

OLJingoist,

Don't get me wrong, I think Obama is an evil bast*rd which he tries to cover up with a faux folksy manner.  But I think he played his totalitarian hand too early, losing the House last election.  If that hadn't happened, god knows where we'd be right now with the troika of Obama/Pelosi/Reid in power.  I also think that he is not inept, stupid, but not inept.  My comment on that is, 'What would Obama be doing different if he wanted to destroy the US than he's doing right now?'  The answer is, 'Not much'.  He's already nationalized a huge chunk of private enterprise (health, auto, banking, student loan, et.al.), accelerated the downfall of both the commercial and private real estate markets, ruined our currency, raised our debt to unsustainable levels, trashed our allies while cozying up to tin pot dictators and theocratic thugs, killed DADT hurting both the morale of our military and reenlistment, and pretty much lied through his teeth with every speechifying he makes while partying like he's a divine right king living in Versailles issuing edicts to us peasants.  I'm sure there's more, like the expansion of government employees hence unions.

Times are dire and I do not doubt the evil that is in every fiber of that transnational progressive bast*rd's being, I just think he shot his wad too early.  I hope I'm right and you're wrong, but like you say, time will tell -- and there's not a lot of time with which to play around.

You forgot giving the Russians the secrets to our missile defense.

[Libertas]

I H8 that evil SOB!  This POSOTUS is systematically destroying everything!  And his minions in government are doing all they can to help the evil bastard!

I have not given up on elections, but I am not too hopeful either, and I am not putting my eggs in one basket.  If everything goes sideways, the proglodytes have a rude awakening for them if they think other people will not blame or exact retribution...or just leave them to die in the steet.

[Predator Don]

My understanding is obama wants to build a 1 billion war chest for his re election bid. He knows he will need every penny.

5-9%.....It is all obama needs to fool. I believe there is a base of support for him who will pull the lever for "hope and change", because they are too niave and ignorant to undertsnad what is happening in this nation.

I hope I'm wrong. I don't see a landslide....I do believe the right candidate will defeat obama.

[Pandora]

They will cheat.  If he wins, we're done.

[Libertas]

I think it will come down to the 10% swing voters, and judging by Obama's collapse in the independent vote, cheating may only net him 1-2% nationwide, so 8-9% will decide it.  And yes the right candidate needs to be a non-RINO/Ruling Class choice, a real choice, or we could be totally screwed forever as a free nation.

[LadyVirginia]

...or we could be totally screwed forever as a free nation.

but the ideas will survive...because freedom beats in man's heart.  Perhaps our time has passed but our experience will be as a beacon to someone else somewhere else in a different time who raises up to claim liberty. 

[Libertas]

...or we could be totally screwed forever as a free nation.

but the ideas will survive...because freedom beats in man's heart.  Perhaps our time has passed but our experience will be as a beacon to someone else somewhere else in a different time who raises up to claim liberty. 

True, but there could be a lot of blood shed between now and then!