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Re: Updated: Bankers found dead ....
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2014, 10:46:17 AM »
Do Bitcoin Exchanges count as Banks? If so, another suicide...

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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2014, 11:37:18 AM »
Close enough.

Plus, statists probably want to hoard into or disrupt their activities anyway, so there's another shared criteria with traditional financial entities...
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Re: Updated: Bankers found dead ....
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2014, 09:00:35 AM »
Jumped or pushed?

Well...not that it matters...
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« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2014, 10:17:18 AM »
My wife's first cousin co-owns a payday loan company with his brother. I should say, "co-owned", since he jumped to his death a couple days ago.

Totally different situation I know, but jumping to the death seems to be in vogue these days.
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« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2014, 11:34:51 AM »
Sorry to hear that IDP.

Sad when people can't see past their troubles.

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« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2014, 01:06:07 PM »
Sorry to hear that IDP.

Sad when people can't see past their troubles.

Sorry to say, he had it coming.

The corruption of the payday loan business has its nexus in Kansas City, and my wife's cousins are ground zero for that corruption. They are stinking rich off charging 700% insterest, and they've kept one step ahead of the regulators by getting in bed with the Indian reservations and the local Catholic diocese.

But they are recently under investigation by several agencies as well as the state of Nevada, and I assume that little brother could see the writing on the wall.

The older brother - the "godfather" of the KC payday loan industry - spent time in Leavenworth for mail fraud when he was in his 20s. He got out of prison and went right back to his nefarious ways. He defrauded my mother-in-law out of the bought-and-paid-for house she inherited from her mother, and used the money to open a bar-restaurant. He clawed his way to financial success by defrauding others, and eventually created the concept of online payday loans.

He's made tens-of-millions, but now it's cost the life of his brother, and I suspect he will once again be behind bars before too long.
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Re: Updated: Bankers found dead ....
« Reply #48 on: March 13, 2014, 01:16:02 PM »
I had a nefarious cousin that couldn't make money the honest way and he croaked in prison last year from Hepatitis. You just can't help or reach some people. They envy the rich and will stop at nothing to get theirs.
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« Reply #49 on: March 13, 2014, 01:25:33 PM »
Sorry to hear that IDP.

Sad when people can't see past their troubles.

Sorry to say, he had it coming.

The corruption of the payday loan business has its nexus in Kansas City, and my wife's cousins are ground zero for that corruption. They are stinking rich off charging 700% insterest, and they've kept one step ahead of the regulators by getting in bed with the Indian reservations and the local Catholic diocese.

But they are recently under investigation by several agencies as well as the state of Nevada, and I assume that little brother could see the writing on the wall.

The older brother - the "godfather" of the KC payday loan industry - spent time in Leavenworth for mail fraud when he was in his 20s. He got out of prison and went right back to his nefarious ways. He defrauded my mother-in-law out of the bought-and-paid-for house she inherited from her mother, and used the money to open a bar-restaurant. He clawed his way to financial success by defrauding others, and eventually created the concept of online payday loans.

He's made tens-of-millions, but now it's cost the life of his brother, and I suspect he will once again be behind bars before too long.

Wow, that is a special kind of dirtbag...not the first time I've heard family screwing other family over, but thankfully nothing near that scale has ever happened in my family!

I do have a couple in the extended clan that are shady, but they pulled a Claude Rains years ago and it says something that nobody has missed them.

Some families are more fortunate than others.
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Re: Updated: Bankers found dead ....
« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2014, 01:26:58 PM »
I had a nefarious cousin that couldn't make money the honest way and he croaked in prison last year from Hepatitis. You just can't help or reach some people. They envy the rich and will stop at nothing to get theirs.

Sad, really.  Must not have had a good role model growing up, or the lessons should have been accompanied by an ass whuppin'.
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« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2014, 08:36:54 AM »
And Another one.

I wish we had a baseline-- maybe 52  bankers die worldwide from suicide every year, so one a week would be normal. 

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« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2014, 08:58:57 AM »
That guy seems to be quite the piece of work.  And an interesting read.  I won't link to any stories as it's personal to IDP and he didn't, but it's not hard to google.  It's a pretty big deal in KC, involving corruption, Indian sovereignty, bribery, minor celebrity, and just plain old sleeze.


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« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2014, 10:17:23 AM »
And Another one.

I wish we had a baseline-- maybe 52  bankers die worldwide from suicide every year, so one a week would be normal.

I have been out of that racket for a decade now...but 1 per week still seems high to me, I don't know what the baseline would be...but anything more than a than dozen seems excessive here, sure we are talking worldwide, but people higher up the food chain.  We need better metrics though, for all industries, and weighted to some sort of apples-to-apples per capita for better cross industry comparison.  Are Dentists still number one?  I thought for sure it would be postal worker, maybe that one was for mass murder though...
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« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2014, 11:25:36 AM »
That guy seems to be quite the piece of work.  And an interesting read.  I won't link to any stories as it's personal to IDP and he didn't, but it's not hard to google.  It's a pretty big deal in KC, involving corruption, Indian sovereignty, bribery, minor celebrity, and just plain old sleeze.

Oh, it's OK, but yeah, that's them. Mrs. IDP's first cousins. It's not a big secret, other than having their names searchable on this site might draw federal eyes that otherwise might not be drawn here.

But I encourage anyone who is curious to google. "Payday loan" "suicide" "Kansas City" should be all you need for keywords. Hell, you could probably leave out any one of those three and still come up with the same search result. Those guys are mobsters, and they have been in the news a lot lately.
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« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2014, 12:00:33 PM »
Still dentists, huh!  Is Great Britain skewing the stats? 
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« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2014, 12:04:44 PM »
I don't get the dentist thing.

The 3 dentists I know have thriving practices and are just great people all around. One of them is my dentist and when I go for an appointment he makes me feel like I'm the only patient he has that day.



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« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2014, 12:35:00 PM »
Many people fear "the dentist" and some just hate them.  I don't, but I understand.  Though they are healers, they are also pain-dealers; if it doesn't hurt now, thanks to novacain et. al., many times it'll hurt later.  (Surgeons don't get the same bum rap, even though the job description is the same.)  I was kidding my periodontist one time about "the damage" intrinsic to any procedure; primary "damage" to the problem area, secondary damage to the palate/gums from the pain-blocking needle, tertiary damage to the corners of the mouth from the instruments themselves.  Come the evening or next day, everything is sore and tender; however, when that fades, voila! no more toothache.

My grandmother had a very low pain tolerance and hated the idea of "dentist".  At her passing, she had very few teeth left and those that she had were the rottenest I've ever seen in a human mouth.

Dentists know all this.  It must be wearing for those upon whom it weighs.

I suspect these "suicided" banker types either had a very clear view of how deep in the sht we are, or they knew something not many do.
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« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2014, 12:51:52 PM »
The dentist thing reminds me of this Onion article:  Local Prostitutes Eagerly Await Dentists' Convention


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"The dentists' convention is where we pull out all the stops," said Lucy Calhoun, owner of Juicy Lucy's, a popular Vegas-area brothel. "The average dentist has an unusual combination of cash and low self-esteem that makes him an ideal customer."
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Prostitutes have long known that the average dentist, while earning almost $60,000 per year, is not generally respected by the public at large. Neither an admired craftsman nor a full-fledged member of the medical community, the dentist, more than anyone short of the chiropractor, uses conventions as an opportunity to purchase emotional gratification in the form of sex.


I think there's almost a little grain of truth in this joke.  They go through a lot of schooling just like MDs, but hardly anyone thinks of them in quite the same light.

I hate going to the dentist, not because of pain but because of the bill I get.
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