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Farm bill
« on: February 03, 2014, 10:32:41 AM »
Details beginning to trickle out about the loverly bunch of coconuts included in the omnibus bill.  You know what they say; the Devil is in the details.

Congress‘ mammoth farm bill restores the imposition of an extra fee on home heating oil ...

The previous "fee" expired in 2010.

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The fee — two-tenths of a cent on every gallon sold — was tacked on to the end of the 959-page bill, which is winding its way through Capitol Hill. The fee would last for nearly 20 years and would siphon the money to develop equipment that is cheaper, more efficient and safer, and to encourage consumers to update their equipment.

And how would it do that, you ask?

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... the industry says it needs the government to reimpose it to get the program up and running again.

“Technician training has degraded over time and we haven’t been as responsible developing new fuels as we should have been,” said John Huber, president of the National Oilheat Research Alliance. “All technical training stopped in 2010, and we haven’t been upgrading and training on new technologies that have been entering the industry.”

Because the program expired, work stopped on developing environmentally friendly biofuels, a priority for Northeasterners who put a premium on green energy, he said.

Rent-seeking, crony "capitalist" bastids.

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The National Oilheat Research Alliance has faced other problems. A 2010 Government Accountability Office audit found it was spending the majority of its money on marketing and was neglecting research.

Unh hunh.  Surprise!  NOT.

Our "representatives" tried to reimpose the "fee" since 2010, found they couldn't get it done, so slipped it in the pork-laden "farm" bill.
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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2014, 10:44:40 AM »
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said John Huber, president of the National Oilheat Research Alliance

Surprisingly a lawyer by training, and not a scientist.

Funny how this rent seeking works.

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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2014, 11:32:05 AM »
Somebody should immolate these clowns...
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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2014, 02:17:29 PM »
Somebody should immolate these clowns...

But I can't afford the fuel to do it!

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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2014, 02:23:17 PM »
Somebody should immolate these clowns...

But I can't afford the fuel to do it!

Rub two of 'em together until they spark...

...hey, I wonder if I could get a grant for that?

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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2014, 03:43:36 PM »
Somebody should immolate these clowns...

But I can't afford the fuel to do it!

Rub two of 'em together until they spark...

...hey, I wonder if I could get a grant for that?

 ::thinking::
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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 07:53:28 AM »
Somebody should immolate these clowns...

But I can't afford the fuel to do it!

Rub two of 'em together until they spark...

...hey, I wonder if I could get a grant for that?

 ::thinking::
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I'll do what I normally do...not tell them and burn the shyt anyway!
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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2014, 03:22:41 PM »
For all the blabbering from both Democrats and Republicans about these insider crony deals,  they run rampant over a good portion of the economy now.

Big crony business is in bed with big government big time and they have taken control of both parties.   Big business probably now gives more to DEMOCRATS now,  so so much for the "little" peoples party nonsense!   

This about the only issue that most of us on the conservative side of the political spectrum actually agree with the left (well the ones not in on deals that is),  that these subsidies are not good.   We have different reasons for why they are bad,  but both are supposedly against them but they still pass with huge margins on both ends of the political spectrum.

To be honest,  having NO government policy on many parts of the economy would be far better then the piss poor public policies that we are stuck with.   Imagine if Barry had no say about that Keystone pipeline that should be under construction a long time ago already.   Why does the president have any say about it?   He really has NO stake in it.     In this case big business screwed itself by allowing regulation.   

The only reason why it doesn't exist yet is the fact we HAVE a policy on energy.   It was a done deal a half decade ago......

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Re: Farm bill
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2014, 10:08:54 PM »
For all the blabbering from both Democrats and Republicans about these insider crony deals,  they run rampant over a good portion of the economy now.

Big crony business is in bed with big government big time and they have taken control of both parties.   Big business probably now gives more to DEMOCRATS now,  so so much for the "little" peoples party nonsense!   

This about the only issue that most of us on the conservative side of the political spectrum actually agree with the left (well the ones not in on deals that is),  that these subsidies are not good.   We have different reasons for why they are bad,  but both are supposedly against them but they still pass with huge margins on both ends of the political spectrum.

To be honest,  having NO government policy on many parts of the economy would be far better then the piss poor public policies that we are stuck with.   Imagine if Barry had no say about that Keystone pipeline that should be under construction a long time ago already.   Why does the president have any say about it?   He really has NO stake in it.     In this case big business screwed itself by allowing regulation.   

The only reason why it doesn't exist yet is the fact we HAVE a policy on energy.   It was a done deal a half decade ago......

 ::thumbsup::  Less is better!!!
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