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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2017, 05:08:44 AM »
There was a time when Americans believed in freedom.

The US is dying from a million cuts. Part of the reason the USA is a nanny police state now is that whenever there is a problem, the kneejerk reaction in the US is to call for a new law.

Nanny state laws are not the best solution, however. Nanny state laws lead to more laws, higher fines, and tougher sentences. Thirty-five years ago, DWI laws were enacted that led to DWI checkpoints and lower DWI levels. Seatbelt laws led to backseat seatbelt laws, childseat laws, and pet seatbelt laws. Car liability insurance laws led to health insurance laws and gun liability laws. Smoking laws that banned smoking in buildings led to laws against smoking in parks and then bans against smoking in entire cities. Sex offender registration laws led to sex offender restriction laws and violent offender registration laws.

Nanny state laws don't make us safer, either. Nanny state laws lead people to be careless since they don't need to have personal responsibility anymore. People don't need to be careful crossing the street now because drunk-driving has been outlawed and driving while using a mobile phone is illegal. People don't investigate companies or carry out due diligence because businesses must have business licenses now.

The main point of nanny state laws is not safety. The main purposes of more laws are control and revenue generation for the state.

Another reason laws are enacted is because corporations give donations to lawmakers to stifle competition or increase sales.

Many laws are contradictory, too. Some laws say watering lawns is required, while other laws say watering lawns is illegal.

Many nanny state laws that aim to solve a problem can be fixed by using existing laws. If assault is already illegal, why do we need a new law that outlaws hitting umpires?

Nanny state laws are not even necessary. If everything was legal would you steal, murder, and use crack cocaine? Aren't there other ways to solve problems besides calling the police? Couldn't people educate or talk to people who bother them? Couldn't people be sued for annoying behavior? Couldn't people just move away? Even if assault was legal, wouldn't attackers risk being killed or injured, too? Do people have consciences? Having no laws doesn't mean actions have no consequences.

If there is no victim, there is no crime.

We don't need thousands of laws when we only need 10.

Should swimming pools be banned because they are dangerous? Hammers? Bottles? Rocks? Energy drinks? Pillows?

Where does it end?

If one state can have self-serve gas stations, why can't every state have them? If sodas were legal 20 years ago, why can't they be legal now?

Freedom is not just a one way street. You can only have freedom for yourself if you allow others to have it.

Control freaks might get angry when a neighbor owns three indoor cats, but what did the neighbor take from them? Why should this be illegal? Is outlawing cats something a free country should do? Doesn't banning everything sound like the opposite of liberty?

Instead of getting mad at people who like freedom, why don't people realize that freedom is a two way street?

If you allow others to paint their house purple then you can, too.

If you allow others to own a gun then you can, too.

If you allow others to swear then you can, too.

If you allow others to gamble then you can, too.

Who wants to live in a prison?

Think. Question everything.

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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 07:40:31 AM »
I have a question for ya?  What's your point?
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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 07:46:50 AM »
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to say nothing.

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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 07:58:20 AM »
You achieved that...by saying nothing.
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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 08:03:39 AM »
One of the reasons the US is collapsing now is that Americans think that decay will be stopped by becoming Fascists and Communists.

Americans think the US will be improved by expanding wars, increasing the debt, and adding more tyranny when the reason the USA is crashing is because the US has wars, is in debt, and has a police state.

Americans say that they love freedom, but then they turn around and say they need the government to give them free Obamacare, build a wall, protect the US from Yemen, wiretap their phones, confiscate guns, forbid people from loitering, arrest people for feeding the homeless, stop farmers from plowing fields, shut down lemonade stands, outlaw protesting, run checkpoints, force people to get rid of dogs, ban vaping, and torture suspects.

Every country has the government it deserves.

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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 08:05:16 AM »
Thanks, I had no clue...
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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 08:06:38 AM »
Government is not the solution, but rather the cause of our problems.

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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 08:09:31 AM »
A ha!  So you are an anarchist!

So, what flavor of socialist?  Nationalist?  Totalitarian?  Freelance?
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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 12:20:42 PM »
Thanks, I had no clue...

You owe me a laptop screen cleaning. Mine has coffee on it for some reason.
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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2017, 06:57:32 AM »
Thanks, I had no clue...

You owe me a laptop screen cleaning. Mine has coffee on it for some reason.

Don't be so narrow-minded, check your sentience...maybe the silicon-based unit likes coffee?

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Re: More evidence the NannyState was just a warm up for the PoliceState
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2017, 08:03:26 AM »
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