Ellis in American Sphinx really didn't say much about it, but he did change his mind after the dna testing. But like I said, it means a Jefferson male can be traced in the Hemmings line, we may never know for sure, nor do I think it matters in the final analysis. I don't know if his change of heart on the Hemmings matter was driven by his stupid assertion he served in Vietnam, but I'm not privy to what academia considers a bona fide for membership in their club. But I do fault him for not clarifying the reason for his changed opinion...a Jefferson male of the period...you can say it is probable it could be Thomas, but a flat out statement to that effect would not be accurate. Even I was a bit cavalier in my first post on this subject, Ellis should know better than to declare it an outright fact.