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2nd Amendment requires Registration
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Re: 2nd Amendment requires Registration
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2014, 09:09:59 AM »
It's Common Core. I'd expect nothing less. They neglected to instill any facts what so ever.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 02:06:57 PM »
Kids should turn it inside out and write about how civil war and slaughtering national socialists is being made inevitable by those promoting such apostasy.
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Re: 2nd Amendment requires Registration
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 03:39:21 PM »
Well,  there is that saying,   

"If you repeat the lie enough,  people start to believe it".

I think its true in this case. 

Its amazing how a short statement like the 2nd amendment is twisted into complete nothingness,  I mean here is the whole thing......



"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."



Seems totally clear to me and to everybody who posts to this forum on a regular basis.   Meaning to normal thinking people.   Government has no right to your weapons.   Period.   In fact the often misused "well regulated" has nothing to do with private citizens,  that is the part about state militias.   They get it backwards.   

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Re: 2nd Amendment requires Registration
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 04:00:42 PM »
how is it that stupid people can't understand simple things?
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 04:07:34 PM »
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In fact the often misused "well regulated" has nothing to do with private citizens,  that is the part about state militias.

No.  The whole of the people are the militia, and well-regulated means practiced in the use of their arms.

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/ff_militia.htm

George Mason's view:  "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials."
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2014, 04:15:10 PM »
And "well regulated" did not mean "controlled and restricted" it meant "competent and well equipped". It's like saying a mechanical device is "in good regulation". It may sound slightly anachronistic to a modern ear, but the meaning is clear. ETA - posted this while Pandora was making the same point

It's also quite clear that "A well regulated militia" was merely being offered as a relevant and important example in support of the next clause, which is the real meat of the Amendment: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." What is the militia? The militia is the people themselves, in contrast to a full-time professional military. If the people themselves are not free to keep and bear arms, then they cannot function as a militia.

The school assignment here is quite clearly, and deliberately, wrong. It's nevertheless something of an improvement, in a weird way. I remember my 9th grade class on American government had a textbook that parroted the then-universal claim in academia that the 2nd Amendment only guaranteed the states could form a militia, and that we had one called the National Guard. This was 1991-92. The gun rights movement has done well since then, because the same sort of mealymouthed textbooks and school assignments are now forced to acknowledge that it applies to individuals, even if they are still trying to neuter it with a bunch of weasel words and imaginary conditions.
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Re: 2nd Amendment requires Registration
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2014, 06:53:13 AM »
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In fact the often misused "well regulated" has nothing to do with private citizens,  that is the part about state militias.

No.  The whole of the people are the militia, and well-regulated means practiced in the use of their arms.

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/ff_militia.htm

George Mason's view:  "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials."

BOOM!

And, the musket was merely the state-of-the-art scary black rifle of its day!

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