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The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« on: April 23, 2014, 07:54:52 AM »
Every 2-4 weeks there is an article like this. Look at this "unique" , morally superior individual who made "choices" to live in a smaller home.  Agenda 21 - over and over.. Get used to this America, because this is how they want you to live. Why? The article answers that

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She has plenty of bathing options thanks to generous friends and neighbors, who all gave her the keys to their houses. "My possessions have grown exponentially small. Except for my keychain. I have this massive keychain."

When nature calls, there's the compost toilet that works without water. After use, the waste is covered with sawdust. Williams admits to taking advantage of shower facilities at her Department of Ecology office, too....

In fact, Williams has found that the smaller the house, the more she depends on the people around her, and neighborhood necessities like the local market and the public library. "I thought I would be so contained in this little house with no running water," she said. "The big surprise, of course, is the smaller you go, the more you absolutely have to lean into your community. It gets smaller and bigger. It gets to be this big, tiny thing, you know?"

Emphasis mine.  She now has access to the houses of other people and all of THEIR stuff. She will use facilities provided by others, be dependent upon others, and you should too!  Because beggars are ever so much easier to please.

This women and people like her should be subjected to never ending ridicule, and pranks .. like towing her house to the dump and leaving it there - over and over. But instead TED gives her a platform, a publisher giver her a book deal and another self-righteous crusader for enslaving the human race makes good.

Seriously how is this different than being homeless other than your cardboard box is slightly nicer?  Why not just rent a room from someone? How would that be different. Arrogant, self-involved narcissistic bitch.  (by the way, the Ad they play before the video features Farley and the Van down by the river...! Remember when that was considered a bad thing?)

Update: The Ted Talk is awful. First,  she decided to go with a Jim Carrey/Vera Di Milo short pigtail look for the talk.  Then she asks: What item would you want to  hold when you die,  what room would you want to die in.. and suggests if you asked those questions often enough you would want a smaller home.  WTF?  No, I wouldn't.  If I had to pick an ITEM it would probably still be a Bible, but I would be far more interested in WHO was in the room, than what room or what material object would be in it..  but wait, it gets worse..

She was diagnosed with heart problems and started dwelling on her own mortality -   and thinks its going to require courage to die in her friends arms.. and perhaps courage is what it does take, when you  are a Godless, immoral heathen, and think death is the end.   But she doesn't want to be in a hospital bed in a friends house and have friends have to change her clothes and take care of her "like a baby"  - ( because apparently she accepts the fact she won't be able to afford to  die in a hospital under Obamacare..)    - So the solution?  To make sure her hospital bed is in a Van down by the River.

She sleeps in a loft where she couldn't even sit up-- and jokes she doesn't stub her toes on a nightstand -- how about crack your head open when you sit up at a sudden event ? ( like having your home suddenly start being towed towards the dump..)  And her skylight? That looks out on the "expanding universe" -- and being in the loft "elevates" her above everything else around her, and she likes that because her "problems seem smaller"  and she can "contemplate" why she is here, and learn about "humility" , "gratitude" and "grace"  ( an opportunity coming to everyone at gunpoint thanks to Agenda 21.) 

And this roof that is 12 inches from her head when she sleeps - its metal.  And she lives of course in Washington State.  And now she "loves" the different types of rain.... and she sleeps with heat so see pretty frost on the windows. And wind in the eaves.. and she knows where the sun is every morning.  So its like camping out. Every day for the rest of your life. 

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"They Gifted me the opportunity to live with them. We have three households that share the same garden space..... I have learned a tremendous amount about what it means to live in community by letting go of my autonomy, you know something changes for you and  fundamentally shifts for you when you have to ask for water every day. So that has been a tremendous gift. "

Because being a beggar is a gift.  Maybe is she had to humble herself before God, she would have the need to humble herself before humans and become a burden on them.  Then she hammers the "Gratitude, humility and Grace" angle a second  and then a third time. ... Because the only way you will find your soul is by living in a tiny house and being a beggar and a burden on others.   I personally don't think a leftist is capable of real gratitude - to others or to God.  They are capable of believing themselves superior because that attribute themselves with having "gratitude, humility and grace" for living in a small house,  but actually being grateful  or being humble is far beyond their comprehension... And if you noted this talk is not really about living in a tiny house - its about being morally and spiritually superior if you live in a tiny house.  Some days the collapse can't come soon enough.

Anyone want to take bets on how "humble" and "grateful" she will be the first time someone tells her she Can't have water and she need to get her "house" off the property?

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 08:26:34 AM »
The Mooching Class.

Message to Dee and her ilk...



Moochers will be shot...

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 08:29:25 AM »
"... lean into the community"; gotta love it.  Newspeak for leeching.
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 08:39:46 AM »
"... lean into the community"; gotta love it.  Newspeak for leeching.

yeah, bonus points for including Obama's Marxist catchphrases!

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 10:04:33 AM »
The propaganda will increasingly couch collectivism in terms of "community", and speak of dependence as a virtue. More people will be receptive because the Leftists have crushed economic opportunity, increased the ease and reduced the stigma of largesse, and successfully demonized those who produce goods and services as having done so at the expense of the less fortunate.

We will be literally fighting for our lives before we die.
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 11:47:11 AM »
America will never be without vagrants as long as we have PBS and NPR to demonstrate how it's done.

And, yeah, I totally disagree with her philosophy. Those who perpetually leach off of their neighbors are beneath contempt and those who willingly allow themselves to be fleeced are idiots.

But, that said...I have no problem whatsoever with properly equipped micro residences. I would far rather see low income persons invested in something rather than the alternative which is almost always taxpayer funded public housing hellholes. To me, a "tiny house" on a modest piece of land as a "starter" home for a low income person is not necessarily a bad thing. As long as they pay for it (instead of me). As long as it isn't part of some sort of socialist communal mooching thing. Giving stuff away to "the poor" has a long track record (umm...all of history) of not working.

I know that there are potential problems with this "solution," too. But it still has to beat "projects."
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 11:50:12 AM »
Micro crack-stacks, coming to a blighted neighborhood near you...

...join the community!

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 02:06:30 PM »
properly equipped micro residences

I believe my parents called those "starter homes".
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 02:37:18 PM »
Those who perpetually leach off of their neighbors are beneath contempt and those who willingly allow themselves to be fleeced are idiots.

Enablers are NEVER the answer. I'm curious as to her response if everyone wizened up and changed the locks on their doors.
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 04:13:35 PM »
  I busted my ass all my life not to end up like that.
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 04:28:33 PM »
A few thoughts on this.   Keep in mind I used to sell real estate,  so part of my ideas are driven by that experience.   

First:  Is her "house" even legal in it's location?   My guess?  Probably not.  Almost every city, town, hamlet or village would never allow a full time home in the backyard of a single family house (plenty don't even like parked RV's).     So even if the people she has it parked on are ok with it,  the town government probably isn't,  and will make her move it if they come across it, likely when a neighbor is tired of it and reports her.   There are other legal concerns over insurance, fire protection and if she pays her host some land rent (I'm guessing she isn't).   

Plus it has no plumbing,  another big no, no,  from many places.   The irony,  it's liberals that have pushed inflexible and overbearing zoning laws over the years,  making creative housing solutions (or not) illegal in the majority of America.

I am guessing the real cause,  she is just very cheap,  who just happens to be liberal.    She just uses liberal nonsense to justify being cheap.   Granted there is nothing wrong about being cheap,  as I can be pretty cheap myself.    But I don't make others give me stuff or inconvenience others over it. 

I have a good example of cheapness that is annoying for those around them.   I have a friend who is cheap.   A group of us,  would eat out fairly often.   Most of the time,  places don't want to make out twenty bills for one group.   So we would put in what you owed.   Only he wouldn't, often being the first to leave,  he would short his share and would be long gone before being discovered (example,  he should have left $15 but would leave $11).  So others would have to put in more,  so that the wait staff would still get a decent tip.   We got tired of it,  and he didn't get called as much about eating out.   So he valued "saving"  $5-$10 over his friendships.   He only gets invited to places I know will do individual bills now,  and I imagine he is still shorting wait staff on tips. 

Moving on,   the Margaret Thatcher saying comes to mind with this "lifestyle".   What if no one wants to be the provider of plumbing for the moochers?    It can get expensive having another person taking a shower in your bathroom on a daily basis.    Plus it gets dirty way faster (does she clean it once in a while? my guess no).    She probably doesn't notice the problems she is causing with her friends.   Or she doesn't care.   I am guessing she goes on expensive vacations with the "saved" money,  rather then saving it or giving it away.   

Don't get me wrong,  I admire people who prefer a modest lifestyle.   Of course in this day and age,  its become necessary for many people who would rather not.    This lady is not a good example of a modest lifestyle,  in fact she is a horrible example.

Now onto affordable housing.   

Many places in the US,  there isn't any anymore.  Most of them are very liberal areas (surprise surprise).   

With the huge size of the USA,  98% of the nation should be able to have plenty of affordable housing.   Up until 40 years ago, most places where doing so.  Starting the 1930's housing began to be regulated by government at all levels.    It took another 40 years to start really affecting affordability in a major way. 

Having minimum house size,  minimum lot sizes, only allowing a very limited amount of structures etc adds up over time.   Want a two flat to make the house affordable?  Good luck finding one in a newly built subdivision,  they don't exist anymore.   Not that people stopped buying them,  but where regulated away.  My brother would love a studio apartment,  only he can't have one because local zoning has made them illegal.     

Rent control and urban growth boundaries are other enemies of affordability.  Besides being terrible policy,  they are unconstitutional (taking of private property) and take liberty from people and give it the state.   

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 04:52:15 PM »
Why does she need a massive key chain?  Why any keys at all?  That means she believes in property ownership, and the prerogative to keep others out.  Isn't that a rather regressive and reactionary mindset?
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 05:08:41 PM »
Why does she need a massive key chain?  Why any keys at all?  That means she believes in property ownership, and the prerogative to keep others out.  Isn't that a rather regressive and reactionary mindset?

Because the people she mooches from still have stuff they don't want stolen.  This woman is getting pity because she is gonna die soon, so these people put up with it. She is probably often found sitting on their  couches watching their cable and  eating food from their  fridge and the day a lock is changed and she can't get in she will scream with rage that she is entitled entry to the home.

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2014, 05:11:39 PM »
Regulation has caused the affordability problem.   Not developers and builders, (OK,  some of the biggest engage in cronyism now).   You never hear that from anyone,  since all of those folks are evil.    Of course making it possible that only the deepest pocketed are the ones doing the developing only lead to the "evil" developers.  Hmmmmm.

But the affordability issue isn't the real issue either as liberals don't care about that at all.  Its only a tool to be used against people. 

Most of these little "houses" are hardly cheap.   Some are quite gorgeous, built out of high end material and featuring some very nice but expensive craftsmanship.   But the result is the same.  They aren't inexpensive.   I have seen some with price tags as much as $100k!   

It will never be more then a very small niche.  A very small niche,  when you consider zoning.   The thing is, most people don't want to live that way, even when living alone.   They don't work for families as most can really only have one person living there.   They aren't even that great for couples, as only one partner is likely really wanting the lifestyle, the other,  probably not so much.   You have to be committed to it,  and frankly most people can't be committed to anything these days. 

They are "news stories" because they are so rare,  not that they are becoming more popular.


 

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2014, 05:12:44 PM »
If you've ever watched Portlandia you know what Olympia is like. Granola Junction. I'm there once or twice a month and am constantly amused by the mutants I come across. Generally they are similar to the Seattlunatics but much mellower - they must have access to better pot.


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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2014, 08:50:40 PM »
They aren't inexpensive.   I have seen some with price tags as much as $100k!   

It will never be more then a very small niche.  A very small niche,  when you consider zoning.   The thing is, most people don't want to live that way, even when living alone.   

Its just another way , like a Prius, to claim moral superiority over others. All over the west you will find 600-800 sq ft homes, built by poor farmers  - One main room, one bedroom, and a very small bath - because that is what you need to have with a family- even when you can't afford much.   Its what most settlers built as well.  There is a minimum size home that is comfortable, and these tiny homes are not.  You only buy one because you have a driving need to lord your differences over others.


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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2014, 07:22:09 AM »
If you've ever watched Portlandia you know what Olympia is like. Granola Junction. I'm there once or twice a month and am constantly amused by the mutants I come across. Generally they are similar to the Seattlunatics but much mellower - they must have access to better pot.

Heh!

Which, is what I think is helping to drive the cannabis movement...the PTBs wanting to keep the herd mellow.

Tiny illegal homes populated with moochers and assisted by enablers, heck, if that's what keeps 'em calm too, they'll be all for that too...Look the other way as to laws and codes, just like ignoring illegal immigrants...it all fits the libiot pattern...
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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2014, 11:39:40 AM »
I .. Can't.. Stop .. Laughing.

I may have to get this documentary just to see if its as funny as Grizzly Man. Aparently this film is doing really well, so kudos to the couple for finding a way to get idiot trendy liberals to give them money...  but here is the synopsis

A couple builds a tiny house in Boulder ( relying on a generous friend to give them space to do it)  and decide to film the process. One is a writer, the other a graphic designer and neither has ever held a tool before.  He buys some land near Antero Reservoir in South Park Valley in Colorado - the land has no water, few  trees and will be exposed to 110 mph winds, two weeks of -10 F nights in January ( record cold was -40 F)  and snow loads of up to 80 Lbs.  Its 5 Acres of scrub brush. 

Want to see the house they think can withstand that?



But hey, maybe its heavy enough it won't blow over.  Maybe.

Now check out their power system



Wheels! Ha.

Lots more pictures here and the Denver Post article here


But wait, it gets better

On the main page they say

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One of the most frequently asked questions that we get at Q&As when we show the film is, “Are you living in the tiny house now?” Since we want the film to be a standalone story, depicting one moment in time (the way that sometimes it’s nice just to experience a painting without knowing the whole backstory of the artist’s life or how it was painted) we’ve hesitated to post too much online about our lives post-film, so as not to spoil the experience of seeing that story unfold on screen. But for those of you who have already seen the film or have been following us online for quite some time now, here’s an update on where we’ve been and where we are now, as of May 2014

Translation: We would prefer you don't read the next bit and just enjoy our artistry.

The next bit:( my favorite parts are highlighted)

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After completing the house in May 2012, we drove it up to the South Park Valley and parked it on the plot of land outside of Hartsel, Colorado that Christopher had bought one year before, the land that the house was designed and built for and which had set this whole project in motion to begin with. That’s the location where you see the house at the very end of the film.

Now that building the house was done, we headed straight into our next project: editing and completing the film. We packed up and moved out of the apartment we’d been living in throughout the construction process and spent the next few months traveling to film last interviews and capture the footage we needed to expand the documentary into feature length.


In August 2012 we went to New York City. If you’ve seen the film, you know that I was toying with the idea of moving to New York throughout that year of building and that helping Christopher to finish one of his big dreams (building the Tiny House) helped give me the confidence to pursue this dream of my own (moving to the Big Apple). It actually worked out perfectly, since our composer and sound designer were also both located in NYC. We found a consulting editor in the city and were able to tap into a really creative and talented community of documentary filmmakers. I found an apartment with a friend in Brooklyn at the end of August. Christopher went back and forth between New York, staying with me while we edited, and Colorado, where his work was still based. In March 2012 the film premiered at SXSW and we spent the next few months on the road again, traveling from film festival to film festival. Throughout this whole period of time the Tiny House was up on the land in Hartsel. We visited it whenever we could, for a few days or a week at a time, when we were back in Colorado for work and in between film festival travel. Though it had been finished for months we were still getting to know our little home and relishing the experience of actually seeing it completed.

In June 2013, almost one year after completing the house, the frenzy of film festivals began to wind down and we both began thinking about what would come next. I stayed in Brooklyn and Christopher decided to move back to Colorado. After showing off our Tiny House at a film festival in Telluride called Mountainfilm, we moved it back down to Boulder, Colorado, so that Christopher could live in it full-time.The land he’d purchased near Hartsel was stunning but was too remote to be used as anything more than a weekend getaway.  When we’d first begun building we liked the idea of having a cabin to visit up in the mountains but after pouring so much of our energy, hearts, and money into building the house it seemed silly for it to be sitting up there empty so much of the time.

Translation: We never had any intention of actually living in it, much less living in it in a place as harsh as Hartsel. We just thought this would be a great way to get his film career started and make some bank so I could live in NYC, and it fit the narrative and idealistic idea that most  leftist morons would enjoy and give them warm fuzzies at the end of the film.


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Christopher lived in the Tiny House full-time from June 2013 through March 2014 (minus the month of January, when we was in Los Angeles helping a friend with a film project). When asked whether it’s what he expected, he always laughs and says it was surprisingly easy to live in such a small space. The only big challenge was living without running water. Because the land in Hartsel didn’t have access to water, we didn’t build plumbing into the house and hauled water in. So he showered mostly at the gym (an excellent motivation to work out!) The house is still located in this spot, in a very generous friend’s backyard on a rise just east of Boulder, Colorado, with an incredible view of the Continental Divide. Though my life is mostly rooted in New York these days, I’ve been back to visit quite a few times and stayed in the house for a few weeks when Christopher was out of town this winter.

Chris continues to mooch off of others, and actually managed to live in the house ( and the gym,  and his friend's backyard,  and maybe sometimes  his friends house) for just over half a year.

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Christopher decided to move to Los Angeles in April, in order to continue pursuing film work there. So as of now, May 2014, I live in NYC  and Christopher lives in LA and our Tiny House sits in between in Colorado, a home-base that we can always go back to, surrounded by a landscape that is dear to both of us—pretty close to what we’d originally imagined actually, even though life has taken us in unexpected directions. Though we both live in urban apartments at the moment, our experiences in the Tiny House community have taught us so much about the power of living simply and prioritizing meaningful experiences and relationships over stuff. Though neither of us owned much stuff to begin with, all of the traveling and moving over the past two years has certainly kept our possessions to a minimum! Here in the city, I love how the idea of living in a small space and externalizing the features of home is commonplace. On public transportation, in parks, in libraries and cafes I’m constantly encountering the community around me in unexpected ways.

Yeah, the entire film is a lie and we are just posers, but I really like my new life in NYC and all of the admiration I get from others, since I would hardly have ever seen anyone if we had lived in Hartsel.


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We still have no idea what the future holds for each of us, and for the house that we built together. I know the Tiny House will continue to be a part of my life and I do plan to have a more full-time relationship with it at some point, when I’m ready to be back in Colorado. But right now I can only plan for the immediate future, focusing on my here and now in New York.

Hey maybe I might even visit the little house at the same time as Chris, but I kinda realized he is a loser, and really it seems like there is only room for one hypocritical poser under that tiny roof.

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When telling this story, we’re often quick to point out the many people in the Tiny House community who have been living in their homes full-time for many years (many of whom are featured in our film), who are more stable examples of life in less that 200 square feet. Even though our own story is complex and still in flux, we do think it demonstrates the ethos of flexibility and freedom that Tiny Houses represent – the ability to “live life as an experiment” as Ann Holley, one of the subjects in our film, so articulately described.

When people point out I am a poser, I am always really quick to point out there are people who aren't, and therefore my story "rings true" even though all of it was crap so we could make money of of idiots - because its way easier to experiment with the lives of others than with our own..


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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2014, 11:50:19 AM »
"...more stable examples..."

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Progs, they do make it easy to laugh at their stupidity, don't they?!

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Re: The constant drumbeat of the Tiny-Home
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2014, 12:07:27 PM »
Children, little girls especially, who imagine living in their dollhouses, I understand.  But then they're supposed to grow up and ........
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