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Offline Weisshaupt

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  You HOPE??  It's far from over!! The POS in the WH is not the last word in this country's future we can and have survived this type of scum before and we WILL survive him.

No, its not the last word in the fight for Freedom.  This country, however, is over.

One half of the population  is going to have to kill the other half.  The Liberals refuse to live and let live. The Culture and institutions have been compromised and corrupted beyond recognition.  If we don't fight, that is what continues, and that is NOT, in any way, our country. Its the sort of poverty spread equally, socialist Banana Republic the Left loves so well - until of course, they print enough dollars to loose the reserve currency, the social systems collaspe, and you get the riots and mass starvation the left is also so fond of.

If we do fight, and win we will need to purge ourselves of the old institutions, the old laws, and the cultural pollution and start over, with a new constitution and  a new govt, stripped to its bare essentials once more.

The United States the Founders fought for  Is over. It cannot be brought back except by revolution, and what it becomes, if everything goes right with God's guidance,  will be different than the original ( and hopefully better.. with stipulated rights of Conscience, a Right to censure and discriminate ( as an individual and in your private affairs including running a business) and a requirement that you only get a vote if you pay into the system. )

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The date of death should read 6-28-12, that is the day the Dread Traitor Roberts rewrote the abomination known as the ACA that henceforth and forever cemented Fedcoat dominance over every aspect of human activity...unless it and the rest be rendered asunder by a very vigorous resurgence of Liberty.

We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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The date of death should read 6-28-12, that is the day the Dread Traitor Roberts rewrote the abomination known as the ACA that henceforth and forever cemented Fedcoat dominance over every aspect of human activity...unless it and the rest be rendered asunder by a very vigorous resurgence of Liberty.
It was over the day the Wilson regime deemed the 17th amendment passed the process.
It was over the day they let a foreigner run for the POTUS
It was over when Nixon untethered us from gold

It was over when the populous became dumber than the politicians in other words, a long time ago.
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It was over when the populous became dumber than the politicians in other words, a long time ago.

It may be further back than even that. It was probably over  over when comprehensive    Its is not a coincidence that 20-30 years after such compulsory socialist indoctrination and deliberate dumbing down of the people took hold that those same people supported Prohibition, income tax,  the popular election of senators, and women's suffrage. (Sorry ladies, but you know all too well that intelligent, thinking women are a minority.) - 

Maybe it  was over when Lincoln won the Civil war and "These United States" became "The United States"  or when he allowed an [url=http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/essays/general/the-missing-13th-amendment/the-amendment-disappears.php]entire amendment to go missing.


The System the founders envisioned made it about 100 years, and that is pretty good for a republic.  We have been coasting on Momentum for at least the last 80 years.   But then the revolution will hopefully give us a change to learn from the mistakes and build something better.
 

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It was over when the populous became dumber than the politicians in other words, a long time ago.

It may be further back than even that. It was probably over  over when comprehensive    Its is not a coincidence that 20-30 years after such compulsory socialist indoctrination and deliberate dumbing down of the people took hold that those same people supported Prohibition, income tax,  the popular election of senators, and women's suffrage. (Sorry ladies, but you know all too well that intelligent, thinking women are a minority.) - 

Maybe it  was over when Lincoln won the Civil war and "These United States" became "The United States"  or when he allowed an [url=http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/essays/general/the-missing-13th-amendment/the-amendment-disappears.php]entire amendment to go missing.


The System the founders envisioned made it about 100 years, and that is pretty good for a republic.  We have been coasting on Momentum for at least the last 80 years.   But then the revolution will hopefully give us a change to learn from the mistakes and build something better.

More like "these States, United"...

And while I like Lincoln the orator and while I think slavery doomed the Southern cause and put a blemish on the concept of secession when the Founders would not have seen nor clearly intended one...it all started to go to sh*t with the 16th Amendment.  It just took a while to layer on more BS.  I think O'DumbassCare was the last straw (up until then I think a majority of people still foolishly believed in the court as a backup for unlawful state action and the action of the Dread Traitor Roberts should have killed that stupid idea off once and for all)...its all over...except for the running, screaming, bleeding and dying.
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its all over...except for the running, screaming, bleeding and dying.

I hope we can get to that point soon. Not getting any younger and I mean to take out my anger on the progtards that desperately need it.

To die of old age or illness without getting a chance to exact revenge on these assholes is a wasted life.
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Full disclosure: On some websites I am referred to (variously) as a Lincoln apologist, a "federal bootlicker" and a "statist a-hole" because I argue the union side of the WBTS conflict. Usually I shrug it off, although I have offered to meet a couple in the meat world to, ahem, resolve our differences.

History is always more messy and complicated than a couple of hastily-dashed comments on a message board can sustain. It's all too easy to offer a comment without the proper context that makes a whole universe of difference.

An unambiguous fact is that our nation was conceived as an experiment in governance. No nation like it had ever stood before. The very fact that it survived the violent circumstance of its birth is impressive beyond compare. The fact that no nation conceived since has had the courage to admit and imbue the inviolate rights of liberty that our constitution defines says something.

When I argue it's usually around a topic like the WBTS where there's lots of finger-pointing. Both sides claim their "side" was right and righteous (and typically that the other side was the spawn of the devil). The truth is that neither was totally right or totally wrong. The central fact is that, since our nation's inception (and even before) men have had differing opinions on how it should look, how it should function, and what its core principles would be. Sometimes profound differences of opinion. One need look no further than the "Alien and Sedition Act" or the Whiskey Rebellion to see that controversy and conflict has existed in our little slice of heaven since the very beginning.

There was a point during the Revolutionary War when people were convinced that we would never ever possibly get ourselves out of the debt we had incurred. Yet we did pay it off. In 1812 we saw our capitol burn and many thought the grand experiment was over but we endured and overcame and prospered. For five years of the 1860's we set ourselves to the purpose of killing as many of our brothers and neighbors as we could and many thought we could never come together again. Although some still harbor bad blood those days are largely passed. As an aside, I would submit that the notion that at one time we called it "these United States" and then it shifted to "The United States" is a red herring. In truth it there have always been references to both.

I've said that the existential threat to our nation is islam, but the truth is that the true existential threat to the future of our nation is leftists and their regressive "progressive movement". Their unwillingness to face reality, be it radical islamic terror, unchecked invasion of our country by "immigrant" invaders, or runaway spending, they refuse to show any common sense or restraint.

They've gotten away with it for a while because it is vastly easier to spend ones way into a hole than it is to pay ones way out of it. What the Øbongo regime is doing can't go on because it is literally killing us. It remains to be seen whether or not "we" (editorial we) have the courage to put things right once the miserable SOB exits stage left.

Rebuilding America can't happen unless people recognize the need, muster the energy, construct a plan, and marshal the necessary resources. Right now we are unable to even complete step one.


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Well said, 'Soup.   ::thumbsup::  Cannot agree any stronger on your threat assessment, and the enablers of the Progs (the ProgLite E-GOPer's), don't forget about them!!!

And Warp..."To die of old age or illness without getting a chance to exact revenge on these assholes is a wasted life."

I think that is a default setting for a lot of us. 

PS-Saw this at WRSA, thought it fitting for this discussion...



Always try to end on a happy note!   :D

And, ahh...speaking of scum...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/2/irs-defends-refunds-illegals-never-filed-taxes/

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An unambiguous fact is that our nation was conceived as an experiment in governance. No nation like it had ever stood before. .... The fact that no nation conceived since has had the courage to admit and imbue the inviolate rights of liberty that our constitution defines says something.

What it says is ours is the exceptional nation, a concept so many get wrong, misdefine and misunderstand, but that you have stated so precisely.
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. Although some still harbor bad blood those days are largely passed. As an aside, I would submit that the notion that at one time we called it "these United States" and then it shifted to "The United States" is a red herring. In truth it there have always been references to both.

Red Herring? No. Both WERE used yes. Now ONE is used, and that constitutes a change.

I meant "THE United States" in a REAL and functional sense- of a stronger federal government and diminished State governments.
The phraseology shifted to reflect the reality over time.  No one calls them "These United States" anymore, and it would sound funny to the ear if you did. One could easily argue the roots of that change are in the outcome of the Civil War ( in which Lincoln played a role,but certainly didn't architect by himself)
I see Lincoln as neither hero nor villain  and  understand completely why he made the decisions he did.  Some where questionable In my opinion,  but I am not entirely sure what I would have done differently either.  The point is if we trace this back to where the Federal Government started really gaining in power past what the original system and Founders intended, I would argue that the Civil War was that event.
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In another stunning decision...the Obama Justice Department refuses to act on criminal contempt of Congress charge on Obama's IRS attack-bitch Lois Lerner...

Get a load of this flimsy-assed excuse -

Machen said the Oversight Committee “followed proper procedures” in telling Lerner that it had “rejected her claim of privilege and gave her an adequate opportunity to answer the committee’s questions.”

However, Machen said DOJ lawyers determined that Lerner “did not waive her Fifth Amendment right by making an opening statement on May 22, 2013, because she made only general claims of innocence.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/lois-lerner-no-contempt-charges-justice-department-116577.html

What a load of sh*t!  If Congress had ANY balls they'd put a warrant out on her and a bounty for dead or alive...but of course I mean that latter part only in a general sense...

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Just repeating, we live in lawless times. Rule of law is dead thus have fun and do whatever the hell you please. When they bring you before a judge, explain to him/her they haven't any power because those that employ them are lawless. ::hysterical::

If you're still filing a 1040 by 4/15 in a couple remember, you're feeding the beast as well as condoning it's actions against your fellow Christians.
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Well shazzaam, more e-mails!

http://weaselzippers.us/222104-thousands-of-new-lois-lerner-emails-found/

Still, the demon should have been drawn and quartered long ago...
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Now that's the most sensible advice I've heard in quite a while!!!

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Fed's find 6,400 more Lois Lerner e-mails but tell all those people wanting to see them to bugger off.

Government, huh, what's it good for?  Absolutely nothing, oh hoh, oh, huh?!

Good for effing people over, that's for sure.

Time to burn this motherlover down yet?
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Judicial Watch: IRS Used Donor Lists To Target Audits

Obama Regime, Congressional DemoProgs...all deep into this tyrannical behavior!  They all make Nixon look like an amateurish pussy in comparison!

Their next step is obvious...

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I'm waiting for that as well.  And I will enjoy the August snow when it happens.   ::saywhat::
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And yet another Lois Lerner e-mail account found, but hey, no biggie...Team E-GOP be all over this stuff.

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Yeah, still not enough to warrant action against ANY member of Team Obama...the Pubbies are ensuring the widespread use of government repair kits is a certainty.

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