Topic: Scotland going independent?

[Libertas]

http://news.yahoo.com/cameron-heads-scotland-independence-campaign-gathers-steam-130947403--business.html;_ylt=AwrSyCOInQ9UiD4A5LXQtDMD

IMO once you send in your leader to kill the local effort...it usually has the opposite effect.

Hope that holds true, but whatever...not sure breaking away from Britain will save Scotland, they seem to have their fair share of moonbats/enablers too, but whatever...

[ToddF]

It would be a plus to the rest of Britain...kind of like if we could lose sh*tholifornia and Crapholinois.

I don't get the angst.  Let the welfare nation go on their own.

[Libertas]

Or like losing Nu York Cittah (get a rope!).

[Glock32]

This would probably be a net benefit to Britain, and I say that as someone whose ancestry is mostly Scottish and with a fondness for that heritage.  Modern Scotland though?  Not so much.  Without Scotland and Wales, many of the UK's Labour governments would not have existed.  If they go independent, they'll just be another EU nanny state.  Maybe England could slowly begin to reestablish sanity if a big chunk of workshy lefty voters were suddenly out of the picture.

[Libertas]

Still.

England still has that lean forward and expose your throat to Islam virus to purge as well...

[AlanS]

And they're totally prepared to go full retard.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11091801/Big-business-warned-of-day-of-reckoning-if-Scots-vote-Yes.html

Alex Salmond’s former mentor today promised a “day of reckoning” for big business if Scots vote for independence including the nationalisation of BP, the break-up of the banks and a boycott of John Lewis.

Jim Sillars, who shared a campaign platform with the First Minister two days ago, accused large companies who have spoken out against separation this week of attempting to “subvert” the referendum through “lies and distortions”.

He said they were “in cahoots with a rich Tory Prime Minister” and warned nationalists would have their revenge if there is a Yes vote next Thursday.
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Speaking in the Scottish capital today, he said: “This referendum is about power, and when we get a Yes majority, we will use that power for a day of reckoning with BP and the banks.

 “The heads of these companies are rich men, in cahoots with a rich English Tory Prime Minister, to keep Scotland’s poor, poorer through lies and distortions. The power they have now to subvert our democracy will come to an end with a Yes.”

He said BP will have to “learn the meaning of nationalisation” and if it wants access to “monster fields” off Shetland “it will have to learn to bend the knee to a greater power – us, the sovereign people of Scotland.”

“We will be the masters of the oilfields, not BP or any other of the majors,” he said, warning Bob Dudley, its chief executive, that this was not “mere rhetoric”.

[Glock32]

Welcome to Venezuela with tartans.  And the English prime minister?  You mean the guy with the quintessentially Scottish surname of "Cameron"?

[Libertas]

The outright chicanery and bribery going on here is fricken hilarious to watch!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2757554/Cameron-Clegg-Miliband-pledge-higher-spending-Scotland-rule-English-parliament-Tory-MPs-say-no-Scottish-Chancellor-EVER.html

 

And why this drunken rapist and disgraced pile of scat has to offer his worthless opinion I don't know...

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/bill-clinton-scotland-reject-independence-111038.html

..but this "Breaking News Reporter" no doubt just scans AP wires and the NY Slimes to troll his dreck...so, what's more dreck-worthy than a drunken rapist and disgraced pile of scat?

[Libertas]

Heh, this is good, I forgot about that North Sea oil...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-17/real-reason-britain-freaking-out-about-scottish-independence

...of course the Scots will piss it away too...

...in the infamous words of Cankles McHitlery..."What difference does it make"?! 

[richb]

Ugggh,   yet another big oil reserve pissed away by dumb stupid politics.   How it goes.......  1. Nationalize BP and other private companies.  2. No private investors in oil development since they don't want to lose their property.  3. No worthwhile "public"  investment (example see Mexico) 4. Basic maintenance cut back as government drones have little interest in ACTUALLY running what they stole,  making longer shutdowns and more breakdowns  5.Declining oil pumping as old wells go out of service (some due to no maintenance) and fewer or no new ones to replace them.  6. Wealth declines as money is spent on whatever not invested,  and no new revenue or wealth created.

Result,  giant oil reserves locked up that Scotts won't be able to use because they cannot afford to anymore.  Whoever ends up exploring for that oil will be ten times worse then the evil BP.   

Its too bad the oil isn't in Ireland,  at least some there get it. 

[AlanS]

Heh, this is good, I forgot about that North Sea oil...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-17/real-reason-britain-freaking-out-about-scottish-independence

...of course the Scots will piss it away too...

...in the infamous words of Cankles McHitlery..."What difference does it make"?!

The New York Times reports:

    Scottish nationalists have long argued that being governed from London has deprived their country of its fair share of the wealth from Britain’s oil and natural gas fields, which mostly lie in North Sea waters off their shores.

     

    “It’s Scotland’s oil” was the rallying cry in the 1970s that helped raise the profile of the Scottish Nationalist Party, which now leads the country and is pushing for a vote to secede in the referendum on Thursday. Alex Salmond, the politician leading the separatist movement, has pointed to North Sea energy as the treasure that would help finance an independent Scotland — ensuring that the country could continue the generous public spending, including free university tuition, that he is promising voters.

Still trying to crap fairy dust and unicorns.  No one will have to work anymore, we'll get a great education, we'll have kippers for breakfast....

[Libertas]

Indian's (feather) thought that here too with casino's to scalp the white man...

Thing is, not everybody shares in that bounty, they bicker over how much indian blood is enough to be considered part of the tribe, and the more casinos that open the available sheep to sheer dilutes the return for all...

Laziness and greed conspire in all too many and they never see it, even when their world collpases around them...

Oh well, so sad too bad...

[AlanS]

I've read quite a few stories on this, but haven't read when the vote will be. Anybody know?

[Libertas]

I've read quite a few stories on this, but haven't read when the vote will be. Anybody know?

I believe today is the day.

[AlanS]

I've read quite a few stories on this, but haven't read when the vote will be. Anybody know?

I believe today is the day.

Correct. Just found it on Drudge.

[Glock32]

Just saw this on the BBC:

Voters will answer "Yes" or "No" to the referendum question: "Should Scotland be an independent country?"

With 4,285,323 people - 97% of the electorate - registered to vote, it is expected to be the busiest day in Scottish electoral history.

Votes will be cast at 5,579 polling stations until 22:00 on Thursday. The result is expected on Friday morning.

Strict rules mean the BBC - in common with other broadcasters - is not allowed to report details of campaigning until after the polls close.

Re: the bolded part, I wish we would do that here.  It irks me every presidential election how the media try to influence voters in other states with their endless exit polling, and trying to call elections with 5% of votes counted.

In Florida particularly, they try to influence panhandle voters who are one hour behind peninsular Florida.

[Glock32]

The results are in and Scotland voted to remain part of the UK.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-29270441

[AlanS]

Wonder if the disgruntled will start a revolution?

I wonder if Britain will keep it's promise of more $$$$?

[Glock32]

If the offshore oil is such a point of contention, I wonder if they could setup some scheme similar to Alaska's, where citizens receive a subsidy from the oil production.

This vote will probably silence nationalists for a while, but not for too long.  The votes came out approx. 55% No, 45% Yes.  That's pretty close to a perfectly divided population.

[Libertas]

OK who can pull together the William Wallace graphic together with the "WTF?" word bubble?