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Offline BigAlSouth

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Ferguson Grand Jury Transcript Thread
« on: November 29, 2014, 09:55:44 AM »
OK, folks. I think this would be alot of fun and informative. There are three standards about telling a story, only two of which are punishable if you lie: 1) B.S. in front of a TV camera. (No punishment) 2) Being interviewed by the cops/FBI (Punishment for false statement) and 3) Testifying under oath before a Grand Jury (Punishable by Perjury charge) SO remember, Dorian could say anything he wants to the public, but once he is talking to the cops or the Grand Jury, it's on.

I have been reviewing comments on the GJ transcript, mostly to note the conflicting testimony between the witnesses in front of a tv camera, and then after being sworn to tell the truth under oath in front of the Grand Jury. (Bigg Diff.) Try to link the site for corroboration.

How it all began, Dorian Johnson's story: (H/T Conservative Treehouse)

[For transcript see: http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1370493-grand-jury-volume-4.html ]

Page 34:  Dorian reveals how he doesn’t really know Big Mike and if strong arm robbery is something he does all the time.

Page 45 starts the encounter with Wilson, and Dorians account is consistent with past statements he made in the media. Mainly the narrative that Wilson somehow was able to hold onto a 285 pound man by the neck with his non dominant arm (his left) and somehow Big Mike just couldn’t break free.

Comment by Con. Treeper Commonsense:

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Officer Wilson doesn’t even know where Dorian is during the altercation with Big Mike, only recalls the hand off of the cigarillos and that is it. I think Dorian was picking up cigarillos that had to fall out of Big Mikes hand during the initial scuffle.  He was scooping up the evidence. He even mentions that Mike sat a handful of cigarillos on the hood of the car. So I think Dorian took the cigarillos from Big Mikes hand (what he hadn’t dropped), walked around the front of the cruiser and got them off the hood and made it to other side of the cruiser (passenger side) and then took off running when the gun went off.

There were never any cigarillos accounted for on the hood of the car, so if Dorian is telling the truth in this part, and a handful were place on he hood by Big Mike to free up one hand, someone had to grab them because they were never part of evidence.  Big Mike didnt have cigarillos on him according to the Medical Examiner. Dorian apparently was always lying about being right next to Mike and seeing everything.

This removed the substantive part of the prosecutions case, game over.

Page 65, at the bottom Dorian again describes the initial interaction with Officer Wilson when he asks them to get on the sidewalk. “At the time the officer didn’t really look like, you know, he was mad or he was telling us that we was committing a crime, he was just saying get on the sidewalk” Quite a different narrative then the angry Wilson saying “get the f**k on the sidewalk” that Dorian perpetuates when he is on script.

Page 107 (Top) Comment by Dorian:
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“the majority of the time the officer really didn’t have that much power because of the position that they both had. I’m not saying that he was stronger than the officer, but because the officer was sitting down in his car and Big Mike was standing up and he had better, more strength in pulling from the officer”.

Other lies: He testifies that after he ran off, he went straight to his girlfriends house to change clothes and to tell her what had happened. THEN, he testifies that the first person he told was Mike's grandmother.

Checkit: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/11/28/common-sense-deconstructing-dorian-johnson-and-why-the-fbi-and-state-officials-will-not-prosecute-him/


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Re: Ferguson Grand Jury Transcript Thread
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2014, 12:06:26 PM »
I wouldn't get my hopes up for a perjury and obstruction of justice charge, might inflame this peaceful non-violent community, dontchyaknow.

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Re: Ferguson Grand Jury Transcript Thread
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2014, 12:32:32 PM »
I remember first contact with Mr. Johnson. I wouldn't have stated that his claims should be summarily discounted because he was black because..racist. But it was clear (to me at least) that he was (to put it charitably) bearing false witness from the first time he opened his mouth.

It is my tendency to bide my time and allow the plot to lay itself out instead of jumping to conclusions. With this Fergudishu thing I've tried to stick to that discipline. The only real question in my mind was whether or not they would eventually substantiate any claims against Wilson. It does not surprise me in the least that they have not. He was doing his job. The way he is supposed to do his job. Conversely, Brown was in the wrong and, when confronted, doubled-down on stupid. A classic Darwin-award winner in my book.

It also doesn't surprise me that Mr. Johnson has not only been impeached as a witness but proven to be a rank liar. After all there was already a warrant out for him because of a previous perjury conviction. The embarrassing thing (for the pro-looter side) is not so much what a pathetic a liar he was but how desperately they have clung to his imbecilic yarns. It's like falling overboard and clutching onto an anvil.

They're having a tough time getting any normal people to empathize with their bullcrap. Boo-hoo.

The downside is that they are spreading their violence across the nation.

God help them if they run into me.


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Re: Ferguson Grand Jury Transcript Thread
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2014, 02:17:45 PM »
A serial liar just can't tell the truth, even when the truth is innocuous. Under oath, in the GJ proceeding, Dorian said the first person he talked to about the shooting was his girlfriend; later on, after blathering on trying to keep his stories straight, he testifies that the first person he told about the shooting was Michael Brown's grandmother.

Side note: Funny how Travon Martin had recently been banished from his mom's house only to be sent to his father and his girlfriend's house. Apparently, Michael Brown was not living with either his mother or his father. The media carried on that he was staying with his sick grandmother, but Dorian Johnson testified that he was living at Canfield with another dude. (Grandmother was NOT living at Canfield, IIRC.)
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Re: Ferguson Grand Jury Transcript Thread
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2014, 10:47:10 AM »
These thugs are abetted by a complicit media dominated by progressive trash that pushed false memes 24/7/365 in some twisted honor code with a genesis to the cult of pc/diversity/multi-culti bullsh*ttery!

The sins of the media are legion and they cannot escape the righteous judgement coming their way.
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