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Daniel Hannan on the Socialist roots of Nazism
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:33:22 AM »
Great read. Of course, he gives today's Leftists a rhetorical pass on their Nazi leanings and needlessly cedes the assumption of their good intentions. But otherwise, he draws very straight lines between socialism and Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, and scolds the Left for rewriting history.

Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism
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"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Daniel Hannan on the Socialist roots of Nazism
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 09:47:11 AM »
Great read. Of course, he gives today's Leftists a rhetorical pass on their Nazi leanings and needlessly cedes the assumption of their good intentions. But otherwise, he draws very straight lines between socialism and Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, and scolds the Left for rewriting history.

Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism

I agree - most liberals have good intentions - toward pleasing themselves.  Seriously, at what point do you just call them on their sociopathic BS?
If you had good intentions - you would be APPALLED when they go awry. Liberals are not so affected.


I realized I placed a typo in the thread title, so I modified the first three posts to correct it before others chime in; IDP
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Re: Daniel Hannan on the Socialist roots of Nazism
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 09:53:28 AM »
Great read. Of course, he gives today's Leftists a rhetorical pass on their Nazi leanings and needlessly cedes the assumption of their good intentions. But otherwise, he draws very straight lines between socialism and Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, and scolds the Left for rewriting history.

Leftists become incandescent when reminded of the socialist roots of Nazism

I agree - most liberals have good intentions - toward pleasing themselves.  Seriously, at what point do you just call them on their sociopathic BS?
If you had good intentions - you would be APPALLED when they go awry. Liberals are not so affected.

Indeed. They've been doubling down on the disastrous results of their ideology for my entire lifetime.

It's never that they're wrong. It's always that those who oppose them prevent the full realization of their vision. If only their vision could come to fruition without opposition, then the world would see how perfect their vision truly is. Hence the mass graves.
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"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Daniel Hannan on the Socialist roots of Nazism
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 11:45:23 AM »
The words are telling and not a mistake, 100% intentional!

National Socialist German Workers’ Party

It's so easy to call someone a Nazi and not have to expect anyone to think too hard what that really meant!  In a Western Socialists view a Nazi just has to be a right-winger, because after all both Nazis and right-wingers are evil...

But Nazis have nothing in common with right-wingers, right-wingers are capitalists and tend to believe in individual liberty, because it is that liberty that allowed them to become the men they became, liberty allowed them to attain their dreams on their own intiative, their own imagination, their own hard work and their own investment.  Is a socialist society nothing is achieved, it is assigned.  You show any promise of any kind, it goes to benefit the state, not yourself or your family.

From the link -

Hitler told Hermann Rauschning, a Prussian who briefly worked for the Nazis before rejecting them and fleeing the country, that he had admired much of the thinking of the revolutionaries he had known as a young man; but he felt that they had been talkers, not doers. “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun,” he boasted, adding that “the whole of National Socialism” was “based on Marx”.
 
Marx’s error, Hitler believed, had been to foster class war instead of national unity – to set workers against industrialists instead of conscripting both groups into a corporatist order. His aim, he told his economic adviser, Otto Wagener, was to “convert the German Volk to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists” – by which he meant the bankers and factory owners who could, he thought, serve socialism better by generating revenue for the state. “What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish,” he told Wagener, “we shall be in a position to achieve.”


See the disparagement of the individual above?  Yes, leftists here level the same hatred toward individuals here!  Government need, the greater good is more important than anyones silly individual rights!  The Constitution is flawed, it is outdated!  We need to modernize our society, make it more flexible and diverse.  Yeah, the Left parrots all that crap.  And lo, look at that word "corporatist"!  Another key why the Left is closer in ideology to Hitler and the Nazis...don't flush out the individualists and capitalists, just enslave them and kill them when your done with them.  And the link to eugenics is strong as well, the Left, driven by pioneering progressives like Sanger, love to abort the unwanted and undesireable...to shuffle the old and sick along with help when they cannot help themselves to do what is necessary for the greater good.



Insert that retarded pastel O'Bongo symbol and you don't even have to change the words!!!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.