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Online Weisshaupt

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Good paper on Weimar inflation
« on: November 04, 2015, 09:00:21 AM »
http://thirdparadigm.org/doc/45060880-When-Money-Dies.pdf

Something in the back of my head says this might have been posted before, and if so I apologize.

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ONLY the country people were surviving in Germany in any comfort: anyone who lived off the  land had the readiest access to real values. It was not surprising that even when they ensured that  the  money  receipts  for  their  goods  were  no  more  than  equivalent  in  purchasing  power  to  what  they  were  used  to,  they  were  accused  of  extortion --the  more  so  if  they  delayed  the  sales  of produce  in  the  full  knowledge  that  prices  would  be higher  the  longer  they  waited.  Erna  von Pustau went to stay in the country and asked her hosts bluntly what they were doing with all the  money they were squeezing out of the townspeople. They replied candidly that they were paying  off their  mortgages. The principle of Mark gleich Mark  had  helped agriculture enormously:  for the country people, landowners, farmers or peasants, life had started again. At the end of August 1922 when the mark passed 2,000 to the dollar --9,000 to the pound --a mortgage of seven or eight  years'  standing  had  been  399/4OOths  paid  off. When  Frau  von  Pustau  returned  home  the talk in the family was about prices going up, about the credits which had to be reduced, about the middle class party, about big  business and the workers who always asked  for  more ... The contrast between country and city was so enormous that it cannot be understood by people who have not lived through it

Now imagine it in a country where the political and geographic divisions are so severe that some farmers will not send produce to market not because they are delaying it for profit, but because they genuinely want the city people dead for being totalitarian leftist bullies.

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The new danger was that when the peasants  finally refused to deliver produce to the towns, the towns would go and fetch it. It had happened in Austria during the blockade. It had happened in the  Ruhr  and  the  Rhineland  under  the  provocation  of  French  militarism  and  enforced  idleness. Now  there  were  reports  from  Saxony -unoccupied  Germany — that  bands  of  several  hundred  townspeople at a time had taken to riding out into the countryside on bicycles to confiscate what they needed. Anna  Eisenmenger's  diary   included  a   first-hand  account  of  the  plunder  of  Linz  and   its neighbourhood in Austria —the place which Hitler regarded as his home town. She transcribed a letter  from  her  daughter  who  had  been  staying  there  for  a  few  weeks  with  cousins  who  ran  a small farm with eight cows, two horses, twelve pigs and the usual poultry: I  had  driven  with  Uncle  and  Aunt  to  church  at  Linz.  The  nearer  we approached  the  more crowded  became  the  usually  deserted  high  road.  All  kinds  of  odd-looking  individuals  met  us. One  man  wearing  three  hats,  one  set  on  top  of  the  other,  and  at  least  two  coats,  excited  our amusement ... We met people drawing carts piled high with tinned foods of every description ... A  man  and  a  woman  were  seated  in  a  ditch  by  the  side  of  the  road  and,  without  the  least embarrassment,  were  changing  their  very  ragged  garments  for  quite  new  ones.  'Hurry  up',  the woman  shouted  to  us,  'or  there'll  be  nothing  left!'  We  did  not  understand  this  remark  until  we passed the first plundered shops. Peaceful  Linz  looked  as  if  it  had  been  visited  by  an  earthquake.  Furniture  smashed  beyond recognition littered the pavements. But not only provision shops, inns,cafes, and drapers' shops had been looted. Jewellers and watchmakers, too, had been unable to defend their wares. We saw that the inn at which Uncle and Aunt usually stopped after Mass was completely devastated. The old  innkeeper  caught  sight  of  us  and  hurried  up,  almost  in  tears.  He  could  not  open  his  inn because all the furniture had been smashed and all the provisions stolen; and he strongly advised my uncle to drive home, since the ringleaders of the mob were inciting their followers to ransack the neighbourhood ... My uncle urged on the horse ... In the lane which winds to my uncle's farm ... we noticed a troop  of  about  80  or  100  men  and  and  women.  They  were  bawling  and  singing  and  driving  in their  midst a cart harnessed with a  brown  horse. Uncle exclaimed:'They're driving away  Hansl and our cart!' Without another word he leapt to the ground, but could only advance slowly with his stiff leg across the field towards the road where he meant to intercept the troop ... A  lorry  load  of  gendarmes  turned  up  at  that moment.  A  few  shots  were  fired,  and  the  mob dispersed into the hills, the horse and cart left behind. In  the  cart  I  saw  three  slaughtered  pigs.  In  addition,  some  pieces  of  slaughtered  cows  and  pigs and  a  few  dead  hens  were  lying  in  an  untidy  heap.  'My  God,  my  God',  wailed  my  aunt.  'What will  things  be  like  at  home?'  ...  Two  gendarmes  accompanied  us  in  order to  ascertain  the damage.  'If  only  they  didn't  always  destroy  everything',  said  one  of  them.  'As  for  their  being hungry,  that's  not  surprising'.  We  were prepared  for the  worst.  The  gates  of  the  farmyard  were wide open. There was not a sign of the servant girls. A pig seriously injured but still living was lying  in  its own  blood  in the  yard. The other pigs had run out into the road. The cow-shed was drenched  in  blood.  One  cow  had  been  slaughtered  where  it  stood  and  the  meat  torn  from  its bones. The monsters had slit up the udder of the finest milch cow, so that she had to be put out of her  misery  immediately.  In  the  granary  the  store  of  grain  and  fodder  were in  a  state  of  wild confusion ... a rag soaked with petrol was still smouldering to show what these beasts had intended.  In  the  kitchen-living  room  of  which  my  aunt  was  so  proud  not  a  thing  had  been  left whole. Uncle estimates the damage at 100,000 peace kronen, and no insurance company will pay him any compensation for his loss. The  towns  were  starving.  The  countryside  had  had  a  bumper  harvest,  but  there  it  remained because  of  the  farmers'  steadfast  refusal  to  take  paper  for  it  at  any  price

 Okay now fast forward to 2015 America.  How many of these people could ride a bike 10 miles? 20miles?  How many of them will be armed?
How many will be ready to  tangle with the local farmers - armed and ready to kill? How often must this happen for the rural folk to form a militia? ( if they haven't already)   How well will these towns people do on the return journey- laden with loot when the farmers, who know the county side better, descend upon them to take back what is theirs? (and you have to respond in that way, or the looters will come again..)

Of course those who come for the food might just be National Guard or Military troops, and they will probably get wat they want. Then what?
Why produce more than you need in that case? Patriotism? Compassion for those poor transgender, trans-race, anti-christian , lying Libtards in the cities?
Its just going to get really, really ugly.



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Re: Good paper on Weimar inflation
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 11:21:44 AM »
If you have stuff, the looters will come for it, the closer you are to looter centers the more at risk you will be in terms of numbers coming at you and in terms of earlier in the destructive migration process, and if you can't fight off the numbers coming at you then you better be able to hide from them or otherwise divert their attention, the ones that survive entering the wild areas are likely to be battle-tested and tougher to put down.
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Good paper on Weimar inflation
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2015, 05:10:56 PM »
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Why produce more than you need in that case?

Why produce anything?
They will take what you need as well as any extra

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Re: Good paper on Weimar inflation
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2015, 09:41:20 PM »
So they may think.
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Re: Good paper on Weimar inflation
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 08:11:23 PM »
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Why produce more than you need in that case?

Why produce anything?
They will take what you need as well as any extra

They may take it, but I can guarandamntee you it won't be easy for them. Not as long as I, my wife, or my boys have a breath left in us.
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Re: Good paper on Weimar inflation
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 09:49:46 PM »
They may take it, but I can guarandamntee you it won't be easy for them. Not as long as I, my wife, or my boys have a breath left in us.

Well that's the thing..  The Weimar govt had outside forces ( treaty of Versailles) to blame for the monetary trouble ( reparations didn't help, but they weren't the cause. The Wiemar govt was full on socialist)  Out govt is going to blame who? China? The Illegal horde of immigrants they just let in?  In Wiemar the urbanites began to resent the farmers because of  "price gouging" and with-holding goods form market ( the longer they waited the more they made) - and when the cities reached starvation levels, they took out after the farmers to steal things as a mob - not to kill.  Just to get their "just due" after the prices they had to pay. The farmers didn't hate the city folk ( they were their best customers and paid off thier mortgages)  and the city folk were just desperate.

Here, Obama and company have worked hard to make one group hate the other - especially with the stupid gun laws which are designed to do nothing other than to persecute the "bitter clingers"  - The smaller state secessionist movements you are seeing in California and Colorado and other areas with large areas of (conservative controlled) land under the control of a few dense liberal  cities are testament to that.  And the urbanites really think that without their tax dollars the rural areas would be in trouble. As if we couldn't grade our own dirt roads, defend ourselves, and put out our own fires. The degree that rural people are left on their own and independent of the govt. is simply beyond their comprehension.  Funniest part was when they point out the welfare the rural counties hand out. And if they stopped? Oh right, those people would flood the streets of the nearest place that didn't stop and the counties they left would not be poorer for having them gone, especially as that frees up housing for conservatives escaping from the liberal controlled city as the useless parasites pour in.

No matter how I war game this, the Fed will be relying on large corporate farms to feed the cities. Raiding the smaller farms will not be worth their while and will force a full civil war just as surely as if they came for the guns. Does it matter if they take your gun or your ability to eat? Seems like you have to fight in either case.  As Rome fell they tried to make Farmers stay on and work their their lands under pain of death.  It didn't work then either, and that was farmers with pitchforks against armored centurions with swords.

As for roving gangs.. how many will  even know that food doesn't come "from the store?" If they found a chicken, a pig or a cow, would  they know how to kill and butcher one? Most of the people I run into aren't smart enough to use google when they don't know how to do something. They call the plumber, electrician or handyman. I suspect many will just fall into habitual drug use while watching their ipads and waiting for the govt cheese to show up. Yes the ones that do show up will probably be battle hardened,  but I suspect they will be relatively few and picking on most isolated farmhouse they can find. ( which is what they did in Argentina - there is such a thing as too rural for teotwawki. )