Topic: NY Slimes Going Apenuts Over Trump Idea to Ban Muslims Entering the Nation

[Libertas]

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/12/07/donald-trump-calls-for-banning-muslims-from-entering-u-s/?_r=0

Once again Trump is right and the NY Slimes is full of nothing but lies, more lies and nothing but lies.

Wen should stop ALL entry in the US, we're effing full!  From the 1920's through 1950's immigration was severely restricted, Mexicans were repatriated/deported, and we saw a net outflow.  But as progressive came to dominate the dem's and then infiltrate the pubbies via CoC/crony capitalists we saw this nation go deeper into the crapper.  No longer were people coming in and assimilating to American culture and given the breathing time to do so, no cram them in, let them set up foreign enclaves in our cities...to Obama going out and getting the worst of the worst and bringing them in no questions asked.

And the Slimes has to spread the Big Lie and bullsh*t people into thinking there were not Muzzies in New Jersey celebrating Pali style on 9/11 when there is nothing but mountains of tv, radio and print evidence...even MFM network evidence!

http://www.infowars.com/trump-was-right-video-describes-how-jersey-city-muslims-held-pre-planned-911-rooftop-celebration/

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/trump-was-right-about-muslims-celebrating-911-new-jersey-cbs-report-emerges

But the NY Slimes is beholden to CAIR and other front groups, as are the democrats and other media whores, cult pimps and celebretards.

We are at war with a radical death-worshiping cult...their prophet wrote a book that commands them to convert or slay all infidels, period.  That some people are f**ked up in the head to the point where they cannot see beheadings, bombings, immolations, defenstrations, rapes, mutliations and all manner if evil and not link it to the commands of their prophet shows the depth of their insanity...and the cultists are using this massive self-imposed blinder to sweep over the ignorant Western sheeple.  Death is coming and all the progs can say is the people speaking the trust are racist Islamaphobes.

Wow, that's it?  That's all they got?  We need to roll over them too, they can all perish in the crossfire, I don't give a damn anymore.

Progs are unwilling to see the problem let alone do anything about it, so f**k em, they can die in their own sh*t.

The rest of us have a duty to act in the face of unrelenting murderous evil.

Speaking of fools...Dumbass Mayor of St Petersberg bans Trump, ow ironic.  Being banned for calling for a ban on murderous scum.  So Trump et al are worse than that?

Fine, I think Obama found the perfect community to dump all this murderous trash at.  Let he and his citizens bring them all into their owns and embrace them...see if I give a sh*t what happens to any of them.

 

[Glock32]

I just read that the British and French leaders have also condemned Trump.  Well what if he gets elected?  It used to be that it was considered bad form to weigh in on the electoral process of other countries because it could put you in an awkward position later.

It also proves that those two countries are not at all serious about the Muslim problem.  The elephant in the room is Islam, and it's an elephant wearing a suicide vest.  Trump has merely said what needed to be said.  Either we get serious about this threat or we do not.  To this point it's been nothing but self-delusion, the idea that we can invite Muslims into our countries and also maintain our Western tradition.  One of those two will supplant the other, there is no other way.  Trump is siding with Western tradition.

Let them shriek about his forthrightness.  They shriek because we, as a civilization, have no social memory of what such blunt forthrightness looks and sounds like.  Anyone who supports further Muslim immigration is someone who favors the destruction of Western civilization.  There's no other way about it.

[John Florida]

I just read that the British and French leaders have also condemned Trump.  Well what if he gets elected?  It used to be that it was considered bad form to weigh in on the electoral process of other countries because it could put you in an awkward position later.

It also proves that those two countries are not at all serious about the Muslim problem.  The elephant in the room is Islam, and it's an elephant wearing a suicide vest.  Trump has merely said what needed to be said.  Either we get serious about this threat or we do not.  To this point it's been nothing but self-delusion, the idea that we can invite Muslims into our countries and also maintain our Western tradition.  One of those two will supplant the other, there is no other way.  Trump is siding with Western tradition.

Let them shriek about his forthrightness.  They shriek because we, as a civilization, have no social memory of what such blunt forthrightness looks and sounds like.  Anyone who supports further Muslim immigration is someone who favors the destruction of Western civilization.  There's no other way about it.

   If he gets elected they will come and kiss the ring. The quote was to ban them TILL WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO VET THEM that part doesn't suit the narrative so they don't use it. CAIR is being called upon by the media as if anybody gives a sh*t what they have to say. But they do support the traitor in chief so on TV they go.  Trump is playing them like a fiddle.

[John Florida]

Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.

 H/T wilderness voice @ Chatham bbs

[ToddF]

Like Trump or not, this guy gets it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428200/donald-trump-overton-window-american-political-debate

While many of Trump’s actual proposals are misguided, nonsensical, or untenable, by smashing the window, he’s begun the process of freeing the American people from the artificial and destructive constraints of Left-defined discourse. Serious and substantive politicians like Ted Cruz will get a more respectful hearing, and PC shibboleths about allegedly boundless virtues of Islam and immigration will be treated with the skepticism they deserve.

The whole thing is worth a read.

[Libertas]

Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.

 H/T wilderness voice @ Chatham bbs

And that isn't the only precedent.

And as pointed out by anybody with a brain from like 1924-1965 we basically didn't let anybody else in...a breathing space to get those already let in a chance to truly assimilate OUR culture.

The Left always leaves that out, touts immigration (not making any disticttion between legal and illegal!) as "American!" and any opponents as knuckle-dragging racist scum.  The Left doesn't care about the law, the Left doesn't care about assimilating, they just care about captive voters on their plantation...and the stupid pricks in the GOP who kiss CoC/Crony Capitalist ass only want cheap-ass labor.

Neither can just come out and say it, so we have these left-tilted verbal masturbations that masqaurade as "policy debates" when the last thing these sumbitchez want to hear is the truth.

That at least is being blown up by Trump and Cruz and a few others of note.

Press harder...I like it when Progs squirm!   

[Libertas]

Like Trump or not, this guy gets it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428200/donald-trump-overton-window-american-political-debate

While many of Trump’s actual proposals are misguided, nonsensical, or untenable, by smashing the window, he’s begun the process of freeing the American people from the artificial and destructive constraints of Left-defined discourse. Serious and substantive politicians like Ted Cruz will get a more respectful hearing, and PC shibboleths about allegedly boundless virtues of Islam and immigration will be treated with the skepticism they deserve.

The whole thing is worth a read.

Yeah, OK, there is some truth there...but come on, the MFM ever giving anybody like Ted Cruz a "more respectful hearing"?  Yeah, I'm not seeing that...ever.  Trump doesn't mind being offensive, knows how to use blunt force...that is not in Ted's skill set...Ted is very well spoken, intelligent and passionate in his beliefs, I like the guy, but he is also very respectful, which shouldn't be a character flaw, but can hamper aggressiveness in wartime, which this is akin to, war.

[Libertas]

And the Trump Policy is already in the books...nobody wants to acknowledge that though...especially the NY Slimes and the DemoProg Slime whose brown stanky water they carry!

Title 8, Section 1182 of the U.S. Code provides in relevant part:

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/bingo-3/

Kaaapooooyaaaahhhhh!!!!! 

[Weisshaupt]

Like Trump or not, this guy gets it.

Trump isn't a stupid man. He is a successful businessman in addition to being a shameless narcissistic sociopathic blowhard.  Sociopaths are usually very very good at manipulating other people so they can get what they want out of them.  Trump has correctly read the mood of about 60%  of the nation and is speaking to it and giving it a voice it otherwise could not find in the media.  That doesn't mean Trump "gets it" - as in he "believes a word he is saying."  - it means he "gets it" as in he knows what that 60%  of the people need to hear and what they will respond to as well as how far he needs to push the asshattery to ensure the eGOP and the Media attack him - furthering the reach of his voice to that 60%. He didn't widen the overton window.. he just opened it onto a crowd that has been screaming and being disregarded  for years now. Traditional America is still here - and the media just push the window through propaganda and rule-breaking and persecution   to provide the illusion ithe left's ideas are popular. They aren't Its just that 1/3 of the population really doesn't care and they go along to get along.

Please don't confuse the rich self-involved Democrat-loving  power hungry shill saying what you want to hear with someone who actually believes what you believe along with you.  Given Trump's past there is no reason at all to believe he is sincere  in what he is saying, and every reason to believe he is doing what he is doing because he wants more power and attention for himself.  That doesn't mean what he is saying is wrong - we all agree with a lot of what he is saying - but there is no reason to suppose that he does believe it or will act upon it if elected.  He is best buddies with the Clintons and a whole host of other rich govt cronies, and that won't change after he is elected. The only thing that will change is who is paying who to get things done.
 

[Alphabet Soup]

Like Trump Weisshaupt or not, this guy gets it.

LOL (and yea- I do like ya Weisenheimer ;')

I look at all the people on the right who have tossed GW under the bus as "not a conservative" and remember how they all overlooked his more moderate tendencies because he said all the right things when campaigning. I knew he wasn't an arch conservative but he was the best choice from what was available. Although I'm still irritated that GW wouldn't defend himself or his administration I am at peace with my choice to support him.

The Donald isn't a conservative. He's an amalgam of populist, pragmatist, and opportunist. If elected he won't make a worse president than Øbongo has proven to be - Charles Manson wouldn't make a worse president than President Stompy-Foot. But he will (and I want to emphasize will) disappoint conservatives who were expecting a conservative chief executive.

Of course conservatives will be disappointed no matter what. We've already rejected the only conservative who had any executive administrative experience (Scott Walker). Fiorina has executive administrative experience (bad experience) but isn't a conservative either.

Cruz is a conservative but an known quantity with zero executive administrative experience. None of the rest are even blips on the radar.

[Libertas]

Good rundown 'Soup!   

I often lament "latter day America" and much of the reality and disappointment you mention is a symptom of the larger problem...and they, those who perpetuate the larger problem...are not going anywhere, are not mending their ways and are not going to stop making things worse.

All this of course is Kabuki until things finally break and dealing with them commences in full kinetic frenzy.

Who sits in what chair when in the end isn't going to matter all that much...I'm more concerned with the timing and being physically able to be worth a damn when the flare goes up.

[Weisshaupt]

I agree on all point soup.  The real question at hand now is if Hillary or Sanders would be better than Trump... and yes, I recognize the iffyness of the proposition.
I expect a President Trump will maintain the Status Quo. He will not decrease Govt power. He may expand it while securing the border -  eventually every socialist hell hole needs a wall at the border to keep people in, and systems developed to vet and arrest illegal immigrants and terrorists  might just as easily be turned inward, could they not? Are not the NSA and DHS already being using against citizens?

President Trump buys time to entrench more police state, will probably slow govt spending to some degree buying that time, and in other things probably won't do a lot of good besides stemming the unwanted flow of criminal elements into the Nation. It might actually give us a higher chance of becoming involved in or starting WWIII.

IF there is a President Hillary or Sanders,  the spending cannot and will not be delayed,  and the actions such administrations take may well precipitate a Civil war sooner rather than later ( when the police state has even more capability - like those insect drones to just knock you out - or Robots to secure your premises instead of men.. or a cash-less  society, or a Country wide Social Credit rating like China introduced. .)  The longer we give them, the more power they will accrue before starting the Civil war. The Left can't help itself but to impose their agenda when in power, and up till now a GOP presidency has always allowed the population to burn off their anger holding the Status Quo , while the Leftists regroup and prepare for the next turn of the ratchet.  I don't see a President Trump changing that dynamic. ( although I am sure the news during his term would be F'ing hilarious)

I am not saying go out and vote for the Democrat. Just that splitting the conservative vote and allowing a Democrat to win might actually move things along to their eventual conclusion a bit faster.  Buying more time may not be the wisest choice this time around. People need to be uncomfortable is change is to come, and Trump will be working to keep everyone fat  dumb and happy-- the Democrat will not be.

[Alphabet Soup]

I am not saying go out and vote for the Democrat.

I am thankful for that 

It's going to be hard enough not pulling the lever should the GOPe get their way and put yeb on the ballot. I've always been a "reliable republican" voter even when I had to hold my nose. I'm through with that but won't willingly cast a vote for a dhimmi.

Isn't it interesting how the left views every law, rule, or principle as fluid until they get their way, and then it's cast in stone never to be questioned again? The fecklessness of McCain and Romney have driven us to the point where we are seriously considering Donald Trump for our CIC.

(shaking my head)

[John Florida]

I am not saying go out and vote for the Democrat.

I am thankful for that 

It's going to be hard enough not pulling the lever should the GOPe get their way and put yeb on the ballot. I've always been a "reliable republican" voter even when I had to hold my nose. I'm through with that but won't willingly cast a vote for a dhimmi.

Isn't it interesting how the left views every law, rule, or principle as fluid until they get their way, and then it's cast in stone never to be questioned again? The fecklessness of McCain and Romney have driven us to the point where we are seriously considering Donald Trump for our CIC.

(shaking my head)

 You're not alone shaking head. But the bitch is out so is Jeb.  Trump if for no other reason it will piss the dc crowd off to be denied their candidate.

[Libertas]

It's hard to work up any enthusiasm in latter day America...this incarnation of the republic is all but dead...we're in purgatory right now...the enthusiasm kicks in when we enter the real transition phase.

In the meantime...

Perhaps when we know for sure what the so-called (official) "choices" are...we can comfab and maybe all agree to write in the same name...

Till then, it's all speculation for sport.  I like Trump raising a ruckus, I like seeing both sides squirm, and I have no rose-colored glasses on so I do not see Trump as any kind of cure or pivot point leading us off the path we're careening down...but it is good entertainment.

[Glock32]

The elephant in the room is Islam.  Trump had the nerve to say it, and that may end up being his biggest achievement regardless of what actually happens to his campaign in the long run.  He may go down as the person who shattered the myth that certain subjects are out of bounds -- those bounds being established by our betters in the liberal intelligentsia, of course.

I don't think even Trump is aware of the larger truth he has hit upon, and that is that Islam in and of itself is the security threat.  The so-called "moderate Muslims" may not be building IEDs in their garages, but the mere existence of Islamic communities functions as a logistical support network for jihadis.  Could the Paris attackers have pulled off what they did without the existence of opaque Muslim colonies in European cities?  When Dracula leaves Transylvania he carries his sacred soil with him, because he must return to it for rest and recuperation.  Islamic communities in the West are essentially the same thing, like Dracula's soil prepositioned in strategic locations.

Islamic communities do not spring up in Western countries with the goal of becoming part of the larger cultural tapestry, they spring up with the goal of cultural conquest.  They are not interested in assimilating into the host nation's culture, they are interested in replacing the host nation's culture.  They are shockingly forthright about this, and any prevaricating apologist is simply being dishonest.

Islam is the threat.  Full stop.

[Libertas]

Oh yeah, they are nothing but honest about their real intentions, their actions match their words.  But in the West where decades of progressive rot like the pc/diversity/multi-culti cult have made several generations tone deaf to the truth, they simply are not used to words and deeds being in synch so their retrograde minds reject it.



To progressives this statement is just harmless sloganeering.  To them it's like rooting for your favorite football team.  Go Mohammad!



And to progressives this is obviously just an overreaction to the endless harassment of their peaceful religion by white Christians, mostly men and ignorant women of a conservative/independent/libertarian bent...they call them racists, bigots and Islamaphobes.  If they would stop their hate the Muslims would live with us in peace.



Progressives see that as just an example of using parody to tweak Islamophobes, they'll deny any invasion is underway, instead they see a ripe voting block eager to help them elect progressive leaders for decades, it simply does not compute that these people will infiltrate further into institutions like trailblazers like Obama and Ellison have.



The blanket insult hurled by muzzies and muzzie-enabling progressives - Islamophobe!

Terrifying, isn't it?  Heh, yeah...wear it like a badge of honor, relish in it, and throw it back into their face, tell the enablers they'll mike fine converts for the Satanic cult called Islam, tell them their fate is the same as the murderous scum they let creep into our land.

[Libertas]

Harvard deploys the typical churlish epithet at those opposing bringing in undocumented Islamic terrorists into America - "Islamaphobe"!

 

These delusive sycophants of 7th Century Savages can call me their stupid little name all they want...their confirmation bias may reinforce their suicidal naïveté regarding the true nature of these death cultists, bottom line they are all polyphobic (fear of many things) to panophobic (fear of just about everything).

Every Prog shares many of the same fears that blind and paralyze them to recognizing the true nature of Islam.

Autophobia - fear of being alone, central to the hive-mind of progs, the think the herd provides safety.
Enissophobia - fear of criticism, last thing a prog can handle is the truth, so calling you a liar converts truth to unfounded criticism, criticism they can ignore.
Staurophobia - fear of crosses and the crucifix, we all know real Christianity is way too judgemental and way too moral for their tastes, they have to be allowed to sin or they cannot properly function as a prog.
Hoplophobia - fear of weapons, especially if they are in the hands of citizens...and especially if in the hands of citizens who refuse their tyranny.
Epistemophobia - fear of knowledge, they of course would deny thins, but how else can one explain willingly looking the other way to Islam's true nature.  If Christian's were blowing up, shooting, raping, stabbing, mutilating, defenestrating, beheading, beating and setting on fire as many people as Muslims do, they would arrive at the conclusions we reached about Islam.  They fear any knowledge about Islam.
Sophophobia - fear of learning, like knowledge above, they fear learning anything about Islam.
Hypegiaphobia - fear of responsibility.  A key driver in their Hoplophobia, they fear being held responsible by anybody, for letting murderous cultists into our midst, they seek out the safety of the herd.  This is the phobia in them I want them to feel the most, and linking it to Hoplophobia is central to that end.
Phronemophobia - fear of thinking.  Obvious, progs just want to emote, thinking effs that all up, they can pantomime and act like they can think, but clearly this is not their forte and they fear it and the hideous logic and common sense that mean people employ with it.

So yeah, call us Islamophobes because we know what Islam is all about, but don't forget to leave out a couple more that apply to us!

Mythophobia - fear of being told false stories, people like me react violently to bullsh*t, you might want to remember that.
Tyrannophobia - fear of Tyrants.  People like me will not tolerate them, you progs worship them, lets see how that works out for ya.

 

We have our eyes on y'all... 

[Libertas]

More proof that the only sure fire way to keep Islamic terror out is to keep Muslims out.

Not that the see-no-muslim-evil progs care.

But, hammer it into their faces anyway until they STFU...or turn into goo.