No , she wouldn't . We knew damned well what "no" meant whether from her or my dad . They didn't put up with much foolishness . I took the same tack with my own kids and they've turned out fine . I was a lot like my parents in that I wasn't about to let a kid , whether seven or seventeen , tell me how things were going to be . It's also not just a matter of discipline . Leadership is key . That's when you get them to do what you want them to do with out lowering the boom . They just have to be aware that you keep the "boom" handy when it's needed . Old Fashioned ... But it works .