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Philippines: This Changes Everything
« on: May 20, 2016, 08:34:40 AM »
Rodrigo Duterte won the presidential election.

He is a lawyer, served as a prosecutor and then mayor and considered quite competent, but very unorthodox and not bothered with breaking laws to do what his constituents want. This was made clear during the 22 years he was mayor of Davao City (population 1.5 million) in the southeast. This part of the south is largely Christian, most of the Moslems are in the southwest. Until Duarte got elected in the 1990s Davao City was an economic mess and had one of the highest crime rates in the country. The local government was corrupt and Duarte said he would fix it. He did, but not by using methods anyone expected. His most alarming tactic was to approve the use of death squads to murder criminals caught in the act. In the past bribes and a well-connected lawyer could get the worst criminals set free. No more. The use of death squads by powerful men was not unusual in the Philippines, especially in the south. So Duarte was able to get away with it. Soon people realized that he maintained control of the death squads and the crime rate plunged after about a thousand accused criminals were murdered. Duarte also cracked down on corruption in general and hired competent economic and business advisors to create an economic boom. Duarte describes himself as a socialist but not anti-business.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/phillip/articles/20160514.aspx

Will be interesting to see how he gets along with the US, our military, neighbors...China...

Could be a wild ride...

Not sure I would turn my back on this guy...or lose sight of him...
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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2016, 10:52:01 AM »
When the mainstream isn't even interested in (insert issue here) people will start looking outside of the mainstream.  People are sick of corruption in government and petty crime on the streets, as well as lack of progress on infrastructure improvements.

He has some good issues no one else ran on, such as ixnaying the foreign ownership rules that keep so many companies, especially retail, out of the Philippines.  Of course, that rule helps local billionaires with their locks on retail, but everyone else is for.

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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2016, 11:44:17 AM »
He has some angel and demon...just watch out for the latter.

In that part of the world though...as long as you don't step on the wrong shoes or pee where you shouldn't all will be well for the average Jose...
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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2016, 12:35:56 PM »
Media groups expressed outrage Wednesday at Philippine president-elect Rodrigo Duterte's endorsement of killing corrupt journalists, warning his comments could incite more murders in a nation already one of the world's most dangerous for reporters.

Duterte, who won last month's elections in a landslide after pledging to kill tens of thousands of criminals, told reporters on Tuesday there was justification for killing journalists who took bribes or engaged in other corrupt activities.

"Just because you're a journalist you are not exempted from assassination, if you're a son of a bitch," Duterte said when asked how he would address the problem of media killings in the Philippines after a reporter was shot dead in Manila last week.

The National Union of Journalists of the Philippines described the comments as "appalling". It conceded there were corruption problems in the industry but said these did not justify murdering reporters.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-duterte-endorses-killing-corrupt-journalists-155911848.html?ref=gs

Something the Presstitutes here fail to realize...it can always get worse...the more corrupt, biased and unfair you become does not make you more safe...it makes it even more likely you will piss off even more people...until people take action themselves.

Part of me hopes our a-holes keep up their shenannigans...but I don't think I have to wish too hard...

Tick/tock...click/bang!   ;)
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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2016, 01:02:32 PM »
Serendipitously, Trump called a couple of Presstitutes sleazes, to their faces, on national tv.  Gotta love it.  Britt Hume (don't know what happened to that guy; he seems to be seguing more Liberal/Establishment every day) went ballistic over it, citing inappropriate Presidential-candidate behavior never heretofore witnessed.

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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 01:08:45 PM »
That guy started slipping during W's years...

Maybe the death of his boy?

I dunno, he got all touchy/weepy about then...
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2016, 02:17:32 PM »
Now that I'm bugged out, at ground zero, and am sleeping reasonable hours (I consider 7PM to 2AM a reasonable sleep which is why I'm here at 3:15AM reading and typing  :supercool:  ) Duterte really is a less polished Trump and really does appeal to the same kind of people.  The productive.  This is no longer a conservative/libertarian vs leftist/progressive world.  It really is a doer vs taker world.  As Trump draws both union labor and business owner support (as opposed to welfare/union government/rent seekers of Obama's half of America) Duterte really does unite the doers of the Philippines.  My brother in law, the successful business man as well as the lowest of trike drivers are Duterte supporters, vs protected business/government types who see their employment as a means to graft and...well, there are no welfare recipients here, you work or starve.

Interesting time we're in.

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2016, 03:13:57 PM »
Now that I'm bugged out, at ground zero, and am sleeping reasonable hours (I consider 7PM to 2AM a reasonable sleep which is why I'm here at 3:15AM reading and typing  :supercool:  ) Duterte really is a less polished Trump and really does appeal to the same kind of people.  The productive.  This is no longer a conservative/libertarian vs leftist/progressive world.  It really is a doer vs taker world.  As Trump draws both union labor and business owner support (as opposed to welfare/union government/rent seekers of Obama's half of America) Duterte really does unite the doers of the Philippines.  My brother in law, the successful business man as well as the lowest of trike drivers are Duterte supporters, vs protected business/government types who see their employment as a means to graft and...well, there are no welfare recipients here, you work or starve.

Interesting time we're in.


Bingo.  That's my feeling as well.  The political landscape is changing.  In addition to the Maker vs. Taker dynamic, there's also a re-emergent Nationalism vs. the Internationalism/Globalism of the legacy power structure.

The legacy power structure, which oddly enough shows seamless transition between the nominal Right and the nominal Left, is lashing out at this new threat by doubling down on its usual tactics, especially the tactic of declaring this or that goal of theirs to be inevitable and unavoidable.  People are damn sick of being told there is no alternative to the world they're creating, that mass immigration is simply the way it's going to be now, that trade agreements are simply the way it's going to be now, that supranational entities like the EU are simply the way it's going to be now.

Nothing is set in stone.  Their ecstatic predictions of the extinction of white people can be reversed.  People aren't obliged to follow their script.  They might be chastened by a glimpse of that future, and decide against it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2016, 03:19:11 PM »
Now that I'm bugged out, at ground zero, and am sleeping reasonable hours (I consider 7PM to 2AM a reasonable sleep which is why I'm here at 3:15AM reading and typing  :supercool:  ) Duterte really is a less polished Trump and really does appeal to the same kind of people.  The productive.  This is no longer a conservative/libertarian vs leftist/progressive world.  It really is a doer vs taker world.  As Trump draws both union labor and business owner support (as opposed to welfare/union government/rent seekers of Obama's half of America) Duterte really does unite the doers of the Philippines.  My brother in law, the successful business man as well as the lowest of trike drivers are Duterte supporters, vs protected business/government types who see their employment as a means to graft and...well, there are no welfare recipients here, you work or starve.

Interesting time we're in.

I hope your bug-out and settling in went well.  As for the sleeping, it seems to become an issue for many as they get older, so a seven-hour stretch seems good.

As for your Duterte-Trump comparison, I'm thinking you're on the money as well.
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« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2016, 03:40:46 PM »
The sleeping thing comes from turning night into day.  You'd think you can sleep if you're awake the whole trip, but if your body is still saying it's daytime, no matter the local clock, you can't sleep.  It never gets easier for me.  It does take a few days to align the body with the clock.

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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2016, 06:57:08 PM »
I was always "sleep anywhere - any time" kinda person. Still am.  My dad once took a picture of me sleeping on the engine-box cover of the cabin-cruiser he build - while underway. I was the only one who could sleep anywhere!

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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2016, 07:17:35 AM »
I could sleep anywhere anytime and through any clamor...when I was young...after turning 30 that started to fade...now, if I get 5-6 hours I consider myself fortunate.

BIL runs a trike eh?  Man, it has been a long time since I rode one of those, or a Jeepny. 

And I think the Maker/Taker and Nationalist/Globalist thing is definitely emergent and if properly guided could become a positive vehicle to unshackle the nominally free and elevate them to actual freedom.  If the Takers and Ruling Elite are not ended all else is moot and bloody hell will certainly ensue.  It may ensue anyway because of what the Statists have already baked-in to systems...but it will be easier to overthrow the masters now than give them any more time to reel in slack and entrench further.

Duterte and Trump are sledgehammers, and that is what we need if we are to begin dismantling what the thieving masters and takers have erected.  And do not forget that the Takers are not just the rabble in the FSA ranks...those crony capitalists that sold out to the Ruling Class are Taker's too.  It is the "corrupt" Duterte is targeting, break the cronies and their political support and the FSA will see their troughs empty.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2016, 02:43:17 PM »
BIL is a middle man in motorcycle parts.  He gets the stuff in metro Manila that needs to get to the far flung islands and makes sure they get there.  He does very well with that.  I was just saying that from the poorest of worker to the successful business man, they all like Duterte.  The real doers.  Not the corrupt looking for an angle to get graft.

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« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2016, 07:20:20 AM »
Aye.

And hey, this guy's press conferences are not going to be boring, check this out!

http://iotwreport.com/faggy-voice-in-a-proh-pri-aaaaate/

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2016, 02:31:33 PM »
Note that she really doesn't have a problem with that.  She acts like it was the compliment it was intended to be.  Totally different culture, here.  Which is despite the issues, people are noticeably happier here.

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Re: Philippines: This Changes Everything
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2016, 07:46:37 AM »
Try pulling that stunt on a presstitute here...the entire PressCorpse, every moonbat politician and boot-licking Pubbie and Progs and E-GOP lackeys across the nation would be baying for blood.

It's another reason why I hope Trump continues to bait them and play them for the fools they are.
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2016, 02:59:10 PM »
It will be interesting to see what happens to the petty gangs, the ones that steal phones and try to resell, things like that.

I have a one word response to a street seller holding out a phone, whispering Samsung Galaxy S7/Iphone.

Duterte.   ::rockets::
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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2016, 07:03:40 AM »
Is he issuing hunting permits?  No license needed?  Just be sure of the proper legal forms to follow.   :D
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