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Re: Mizzou sinking...so sad, too bad
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2017, 02:38:45 PM »
  I don't see a problem.  You make your bed you lay in it.
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Re: Mizzou sinking...so sad, too bad
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2017, 03:42:40 PM »
  I don't see a problem.  You make your bed you lay in it.

I just can't understand why this isn't happening in more universities.
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Re: Mizzou sinking...so sad, too bad
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2017, 05:09:47 PM »
  I don't see a problem.  You make your bed you lay in it.

I just can't understand why this isn't happening in more universities.

   We don't know that it isn't. they may want this kept quiet.
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Re: Mizzou sinking...so sad, too bad
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 07:25:43 AM »
  I don't see a problem.  You make your bed you lay in it.

I just can't understand why this isn't happening in more universities.

   We don't know that it isn't. they may want this kept quiet.

The best indicator of stress may be how hard they plead with alumni and wealthy benefactors.  They layoffs are a lagging indicator.
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Re: Mizzou sinking...so sad, too bad
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2017, 02:26:19 PM »
A lot of schools are.  It's just not reported all that much. 

A good way to find if a school is in trouble, is to look a the alumni giving.  If that percentage is low (some schools are now below 10%!!),  its a good indicator.    I think schools are required to report those numbers, but of course they are buried if the numbers are low.

Most schools don't see low alumni giving as a huge problem, since most get far more from taxpayers now.   They can ignore alumni concerns for the most part.   Taxpayer funds ALWAYS come with strings. 

If you dig a bit,  you may find a few stories of alumni that gave large sums only to discover the funds were not used in a way they wanted and they are angry about it.    Generally those alumni tend to be people who graduated before 1970 or so.   When they come on campus,  they find its not the same place they graduated from. 

I know if I ever have the money to give to my school,  there will be lots of strings attached.  Including legal documents so the money can be clawed back if things go south.    Even if I can trust the people there now,  it doesn't mean it stays that way forever.   Most schools do drift leftward eventually,  no matter who they are,  including Christian colleges.   Don't forget even the Ivies were owned by churches once. 

Never give unrestricted funds ever.  Know what the project is.  Make sure it ends up in the project. 

Colleges should be run by their boards,  not by the professors.   The board should be mostly if not entirely alumni too.    The school I graduated from is technically owned by the alumni,  so if things went bad,  hopefully the alumni could take control of the physical campus and restart the school if needed.    I know there is a small catholic college in Indiana that closed this year,  where alumni are trying to do so,  and restart the school with new employees.