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USS Fitzgerald collision...7 sailors missing

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Libertas:
Not sure about the Fitz yet...but some speculation that the McCain could have been hit with a cyber-attack causing its collision...

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/14/u-s-navy-investigating-if-destroyer-crash-was-caused-by-cyberattack/

This and the report that Amazon is controlling DoD info is not helping alleviate my concern the right people are in control of our military...

Libertas:
Yeah...well...if systems are being targeted by hackers...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/navy-orders-safety-operational-standards.html

...what surprises me is the lack of old school seamanship and navigation skills...not so much the enlisted ranks but the officer ranks...there has to be fallbacks for system failures...at least I thought there would be...

 ::)

John Florida:

--- Quote from: Libertas on September 28, 2017, 07:40:53 AM ---Yeah...well...if systems are being targeted by hackers...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/navy-orders-safety-operational-standards.html

...what surprises me is the lack of old school seamanship and navigation skills...not so much the enlisted ranks but the officer ranks...there has to be fallbacks for system failures...at least I thought there would be...

 ::)

--- End quote ---

 That would in my opinion be the damned sailors on would think that with all the eyes on board a ship one of the would say "hey are supposed to be heading for that other boat" ?   Have we become so dependent on a computer screen that the basic human common sense has left our military?

  Nobody saw another ship in their path?  This is stupidity at it's best!!

Libertas:

--- Quote from: John Florida on September 28, 2017, 10:29:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: Libertas on September 28, 2017, 07:40:53 AM ---Yeah...well...if systems are being targeted by hackers...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/us/politics/navy-orders-safety-operational-standards.html

...what surprises me is the lack of old school seamanship and navigation skills...not so much the enlisted ranks but the officer ranks...there has to be fallbacks for system failures...at least I thought there would be...

 ::)

--- End quote ---

 That would in my opinion be the damned sailors on would think that with all the eyes on board a ship one of the would say "hey are supposed to be heading for that other boat" ?   Have we become so dependent on a computer screen that the basic human common sense has left our military?

  Nobody saw another ship in their path?  This is stupidity at it's best!!

--- End quote ---

Yes, I made that comment early on...weatherdeck watches are still in practice...but was somebody asleep, in the can...not on station?  When punishments got doled out, nobody was singled out as to "why"...the skippers get the usual "loss of confidence" etc excuse...everything else sealed up.  What was surprising is old school charting going by the wayside...that is on REMF's...it should be taught at Annapolis and continued in the fleet!

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