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Hef, 91
« on: September 28, 2017, 07:20:19 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4927948/Hugh-Hefner-dies-aged-91.html

It seems the only fitting tribute would be to climb back up into a tree fort with my childhood friends...

But...I'll pass...
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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 07:36:31 AM »
It's easy to think of Hugh Hefner as a "playboy"; harmless to everyone but himself and the women he used; leading a fantasy lifestyle that every man secretly wishes was his alternative life.

But I think he was a destructive person. He made it "ok" for men to view pornography. He mainstreamed it. Albeit, his version was tame, but it is what the culture would tolerate at the time. The wretched excess that has come in the wake of Playboy is built on its foundation.
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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 07:49:29 AM »
Yeah...all true.

I never quite got the hero-worship thing though...yeah when you're young it's macho to think how fun it would be to be the prince of that palace...but behind the shallow hipster in a satin smoking jacket and a pipe was just a guy craving attention and racking up a body count...there wasn't anything "glamorous" or "cool" about his gig.  I always thought "Are these chicks really this stupid?".

That being said, I do remember some hilarious antics involving his publication...the most hilarious one being the neighbor kids getting caught...the wife (one of those instances where the mom was so hot I always wondered why a guy would need porn around) made the hubby toss his collection out...their kids (about 10 & 7 at the time, I was 13 or so) found it in the trash can and were ogling over them when I noticed them...I just smoked a cig and waited for the inevitable...the mom coming out and yelling at them and whuppin' their butts into the house!

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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 08:10:06 AM »
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The wretched excess that has come in the wake of Playboy is built on its foundation.

Yes.
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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 10:47:46 AM »
Before I was 30, I envied Hef. After 30 and getting married, I felt sorry for him and his pathetic life. To have a great woman to hold on to forever is a dream few can achieve.

He definitely didn't.
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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 11:50:43 AM »
Before I was 30, I envied Hef. After 30 and getting married, I felt sorry for him and his pathetic life. To have a great woman to hold on to forever is a dream few can achieve.

He definitely didn't.

Good point. I wonder if he ever had an emotional connection with any of the women he used?

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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 01:50:31 PM »
Before I was 30, I envied Hef. After 30 and getting married, I felt sorry for him and his pathetic life. To have a great woman to hold on to forever is a dream few can achieve.

He definitely didn't.

Good point. I wonder if he ever had an emotional connection with any of the women he used?

Emotion?  Sure...like the emotions Bill Clinton felt when he raped Juanita Broderick or soiled Monica Lewinsky's blue dress...
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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 11:23:08 AM »
Following IDP's train of thought:

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Hugh Hefner is dead and we're now being bombarded with myriad stories making him into a modern anti-saint for the cause of hedonism and sexual deviancy. This man was not someone to look up to. Yes, he made a lot of money by breaking up families, feeding addictions, and exploiting young women. But what did he give to our society? The argument can be made that it was nothing but misery. Hefner, who was very politically motivated, contributed to the decline of American morality. Many papers, like The New York Times, can't help but celebrate that.

In 1962 Hefner wrote "The Playboy Philosophy," a 25-installment editorial that was a mix of libertarian and libertine arguments meant to defend his magazine against charges that it was a "cult of irresponsibility and of aiding in the decline of the Western world." He railed against the repressive influence of the church and championed abortion rights, decriminalization of marijuana, and, most important, the repeal of 19th-century sex laws.

... It was Hefner who pushed the widespread use of birth control, abortion and promiscuous sex. As a result, divorce and venereal diseases skyrocketed. His political machinations were far more offensive than his magazine.

... The only things gained by this sexual advocacy was freeing men from the responsibility of sex and opening us up to the unending cesspit of perversion we are currently fighting (like Teen Vogue teaching teens how to have anal sex). Yet Hefner saw himself as a new moral authority with the power to abolish all the wisdom that had come before him.

“These are the final skirmishes of a retreating army of self-appointed moral authorities who have been defeated again and again for the past five decades,” he wrote. “Americans have rejected these religious fanatics and fought to protect women’s rights, reproductive rights and our right to privacy rather than submit to their Christian view that sex exists for the sole purpose of procreation.”

So the religious fanatics were replaced by sexual fanatics. Are we better off?

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/09/28/spare-us-lionizing-hugh-hefner-anti-saint-hedonism-sexual-deviancy/
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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 12:00:04 PM »
Anybody surprised or shocked that he was a craven selfish libertine above all else...really hasn't been paying attention.

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Re: Hef, 91
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 08:01:28 PM »
Interesting interview (via You Tube), with William F Buckley & Hefner, here:

Hugh Hefner Isn’t Dead. He Lives Rent Free Inside Our Heads



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