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A note to bike lane pimping Progs - you are insane!

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Libertas:
This is priceless!

The main points by this guy:

-bikes cause more traffic, which equals more pollution.

-bike lanes are underused for the amount of real estate they’re taking up.

-businesses are dying because no one can park in front of stores.

-no one is going to abandon their car for a bike, most bikers are former public transportation users, which is lost revenue.

-bikes are dangerous for pedestrians, mainly because they don’t adhere to the rules of the road.

The one point he makes that I kind of enjoy is that bikers are getting sick because of the pollution. They breathe deeper and more rapidly while surrounded by lots of exhaust. So, the smug greenie is getting black lung.

http://iotwreport.com/pro-bike-canadian-environmentalist-writes-mea-culpa-for-promoting-city-biking/

 ::laughonfloor::

So, I guess when all the bikers are dead of various lung diseases and whatever...maybe then the lanes will go away...

richb:
What sucks is we will have to spend millions in 10-15 years removing the bike lanes when they go out of favor with that crowd,  as we pay off the millions spent putting in bike lanes now.   The worst are bike lanes put on roads that clearly shouldn't have bikes on them,  like very busy highways, where they should be prohibited, not invited to "share" the roadway.   They should have stuck with the off road bike paths,  which are generally nicer,  because they aren't on busy roads.   Add to the fact that in cold and snowy weather,  they aren't generally even used by anyone.   

Bike paths are recreational in nature,  and should come from parks and recreation budgets,  not from the transportation budget.    I tick off many folks when I point that fact out,  that very few are actually going somewhere (like work) on a bike.  99% are recreational users.

If anything,  the reasons used by the "pro" biker sound more like reasons against urban bikes.

Pandora:
Some of the roads I travel in NC have signs stating that cyclers may use the whole lane, usually because the road is too damn narrow to accommodate a bike lane on the side, which tells me having cyclers on the road is a bad frickin idea.

richb:

--- Quote from: Pandora on December 11, 2017, 02:49:54 PM ---Some of the roads I travel in NC have signs stating that cyclers may use the whole lane, usually because the road is too damn narrow to accommodate a bike lane on the side, which tells me having cyclers on the road is a bad frickin idea.

--- End quote ---

It's too bad that rule doesn't include yielding to the side to allow faster traffic to pass.   They never do that.    Probably still wouldn't even with a rule in place.   So motorists once again have to cool their heels...............

John Florida:

--- Quote from: richb on December 11, 2017, 02:54:36 PM ---
--- Quote from: Pandora on December 11, 2017, 02:49:54 PM ---Some of the roads I travel in NC have signs stating that cyclers may use the whole lane, usually because the road is too damn narrow to accommodate a bike lane on the side, which tells me having cyclers on the road is a bad frickin idea.

--- End quote ---

It's too bad that rule doesn't include yielding to the side to allow faster traffic to pass.   They never do that.    Probably still wouldn't even with a rule in place.   So motorists once again have to cool their heels...............

--- End quote ---

 Wait for a good puddle and pass them even if they don't learn it will be more fun than waiting.

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