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Wisconsin, the Surveillance State
« on: December 17, 2017, 02:20:16 PM »
There is new information on the Wisconsin John Doe investigations and the police state tactics aganst the GOP in WI. This was discussed in the topic below but  the title does not focus on this. So I started a new topic???

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,13044.0.html

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/12/what-happened-in-wisconsin-contd.php
POSTED ON DECEMBER 17, 2017 BY SCOTT JOHNSON IN CAMPAIGN FINANCE REGULATION, CRIME, DEMOCRATS, SCOTT WALKER, WISCONSIN
WHAT HAPPENED IN WISCONSIN, CONT’D

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/12/what-happened-in-wisconsin.php
POSTED ON DECEMBER 10, 2017 BY SCOTT JOHNSON IN CAMPAIGN FINANCE REGULATION, DEMOCRATS, SCOTT WALKER, WISCONSIN
WHAT HAPPENED IN WISCONSIN
On Wednesday, a Wisconsin judge unsealed an 88-page report on the state Department of Justice’s (WIDoJ) investigation into a leak of sealed evidence from the politically motivated “John Doe” investigation of Gov. Scott Walker, his supporters, and various conservative groups related to his recall election campaign. The 88-page report is posted here.

The report lacks an executive summary. The pseudonymous Warren Henry summarizes and comments on the report for the Federalist in “Bombshell report: Political persecution of Scott Walker swept up high-level GOP officials.” Matt Kittle summarizes and comments on the report for Wisconsin’s MacIver Institute in “DOJ report: Wisconsin’s infamous John Doe was more sinister than first reported.”
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http://www.maciverinstitute.com/201
DOJ Report: Wisconsin’s Infamous John Doe Was More Sinister Than First Reported
By Matt Kittle - December 7, 20177/12/doj-report-wisconsins-infamous-john-doe-was-more-sinister-than-first-reported/
MacIver News Service | December 6, 2017
By M.D. Kittle
MADISON, Wis. – Wisconsin’s infamous John Doe investigation was more sinister and politically driven than originally reported.

A Wisconsin Attorney General report on the year-long investigation into leaks of sealed John Doe court documents to a liberal British publication in September 2016 finds a rogue agency of partisan bureaucrats bent on a mission “to bring down the (Gov. Scott) Walker campaign and the Governor himself.”
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http://thefederalist.com/2017/12/07/bombshell-report-political-persecution-scott-walker-swept-high-level-gop-officials/
Bombshell Report: Political Persecution Of Scott Walker Swept Up High-Level GOP Officials
Despite concluding a crime was committed during the use of state resources to target Gov. Scott Walker, Wisconsin’s Justice Department recommends no criminal charges.
 Warren Henry By Warren Henry
DECEMBER 7, 2017
On Wednesday, a Wisconsin judge unsealed an 88-page report on the state Department of Justice’s (WIDoJ) investigation into a leak of sealed evidence from the politically motivated “John Doe” investigation of Gov. Scott Walker, his supporters, and various conservative groups related to his recall election campaign.

Despite concluding a crime was committed during the John Doe proceedings, WIDoJ recommends no criminal charges. Instead, the report recommends that former Government Accountability Board (GAB) lawyer Shane Falk be referred to the state judiciary’s Office of Lawyer Regulation for discipline and that contempt proceedings be initiated against John Doe special prosecutor Francis Schmitz and former GAB employees for violating court orders during the John Doe proceedings.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/wisconsin-the-surveillance-state/article/2010861
THE MAGAZINE: From the December 25 Issue
Wisconsin, the Surveillance State
The 'John Doe' scandal widens.
4:00 AM, DEC 15, 2017 | By CHRISTIAN SCHNEIDER
On May 23, the Wisconsin Department of Justice (WisDOJ) received a call from the state’s ethics board. An employee rummaging around in the basement of the building had found a filing cabinet full of material from the now-defunct “John Doe” investigations into the state’s Republican governor, Scott Walker, and his supporters.

WisDOJ was investigating the illegal 2016 leak to the Guardian of confidential details from the investigations, and in January, it had ordered that all John Doe records be turned over immediately. Yet this unexpected trove appeared four months later. The new evidence included three hard drives, 10 optical disk drives, a thumb drive, and paper files, which contained nearly 500,000 private emails and text messages collected from Republican political aides and staffers between 2009 and 2012. Among the millions of pages were discussions of the most personal nature—Wisconsin GOP staffers talking with family members about illness, helping friends through precarious relationships, and discussing money troubles with their spouses. Not knowing government bureaucrats were monitoring their discussions, some saved sensitive passwords in Gmail accounts; others sent pictures of themselves trying on clothes to friends and asked how they looked. Many of these messages were filed in a folder marked “opposition research.”

On December 6, the WisDOJ released a 91-page report on the leak, and what it shows is that Wisconsin public officials set up what amounts to a political spying operation.
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Re: Wisconsin, the Surveillance State
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2017, 10:59:27 PM »
The law that allowed this crap in the first place was just unbelievable. Banana republic crap. I think Walker's brass-balls approach was the ONLY way to attack the overall corruption in WI. You can't play politics with the Leftists. You can't "defeat them at the ballot box" and think you're doing anything permanent. You have to dismantle their infrastructure.
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Re: Wisconsin, the Surveillance State
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 07:21:30 AM »
What this really is was the institutionalizing of Clintonism.

It's what happens when going along by establishment assholes goes on too long.

It's what happens when people we've supported refuse to support us or fight for anything.

It's what leads to a police state becoming a reality.

It's what precedes the inevitable civil war.

Oh, and various phases of this are happening in every state...show me one where it isn't!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Wisconsin, the Surveillance State
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 04:20:21 PM »
A follow up. Not real important. Powerline is covering this.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/12/what-happened-in-wisconsin-sen-tiffany-comments.php

Also.

What bothers me is the selective prosecution and the fact that no one gets fined, goes to jail, or loses their job.

From memory, which is not perfect.
There was some woman, a govt employee peon. She made a phone call on her cell phone to a GOP campaign  from her  govt office desk, perhaps on lunch break?  She was a GOP volunteer.  The John Doe prosecutors learned of this, maybe from phone records, and prosecuted her for a felony. Yes, this IS a felony. She plead out. They thought she could lead them further up to get dirt on the governor. Problem was, she was a peon. Her life was ruined.  I think she lost her job, maybe house? Mental health issues after that.





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