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Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« on: December 18, 2017, 08:10:37 AM »
I'm seriously impressed with some of the thing's Trump has done. I'm seriously underimpressed with other things. This is one of them. First of all, Hussein transformed the federal bureaucracy post-haste, installing committed Leftists who are now undermining Trump. Why is the pace of Trump's bureaucratic appointments lagging so far behind Hussein? Second, why the hell is he not firing these people? He's the f**king president. Fire them.

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Less than two-thirds as many appointments have been submitted and won Senate confirmation as were in place at this time during the Obama administration.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-18/washington-bureaucrats-are-chipping-away-at-trump-s-agenda
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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 08:18:14 AM »
I agree.

The Establishment hacks in the GOP bear much of the blame, once again they fail to effectively use the power of the majority.

But Trump needs to dispel the notion that 'anybody is better than nobody' because if they are undermining your Administration nothing really is better than that!

And...we're never going to get things right as long as these departments and agencies remain and in the scale they have obtained and keep increasing...when is the butcher knife going to be yielded?  Ever?
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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 10:18:01 AM »
I think Trump should have gone in with a chainsaw on the first day by firing every bureaucrat/gov employee that took a job on or after 11/2/08.  Get rid of all the partisan hacks at once and rebuild from there.  If an Agency was completely decimated then there is no need for that agency anymore and it should be gone.
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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 11:23:33 AM »
« Last Edit: December 18, 2017, 12:13:52 PM by Libertas »
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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 02:37:36 PM »
I chose 11-2-08 since that was election day (or there abouts).  I want every libtard that even thought about working for obastard fired.
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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 07:55:10 AM »
Technically that asshole couldn't fire or hire anybody until 1/20, but I understand your desire to err on the side of caution.

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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2017, 03:03:57 PM »
Frankly,  they would be better off with vacant positions then staffed by a Obama leftover.  Of course it would expose that most of these jobs aren't needed to begin with and should be eliminated rather then refilled.

The new president shouldn't have to fire any of these people,  their contracts should end the day before the outgoing president leaves office.   No exceptions. 

But until then, all incoming republican presidents should do the firings on day one.   It would help refill some of those spots,  which I am sure demos drag their feet on so their guy says on longer.   Note that incoming Democrats rarely if ever keep on a leftover republican.   Even one like a mccain. 

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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2017, 10:15:10 PM »
Frankly,  they would be better off with vacant positions then staffed by a Obama leftover.  Of course it would expose that most of these jobs aren't needed to begin with and should be eliminated rather then refilled.

I fail to see a downside.
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Re: Then why the hell isn't Trump firing them all?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2017, 07:10:06 AM »
As long as there is feckless pubbies about nothing can change...legislation tying all appointees to the Administration that hired them (no holdovers, period!) would mean all those posts requiring Senate approval would either have to be swiftly acted on or government would be effectively shut down...a prospect that doesn't bother us and one that doesn't shutdown the military from defending us or state/local authorities either...life has and will continue to go on...but that mere prospect of confrontation and shutdown causes feckless pubbies to soil themselves in fear...it is they who would prevent such legislation and any similar bold corrective action on any issue, thus ensuring the status quo of circling the drain shall continue.

And talk about dysfunctional...this entrenched bureaucracy is sucking us dry!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/federal-workers-poised-to-overtake-salaries-of-senators-dc-gets-highest-pay-raise/article/2644368

Screw the pruning knife...we need chainsaws!!!
« Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 07:16:31 AM by Libertas »
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