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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #980 on: November 19, 2020, 04:13:31 PM »
Yeah?  And?

*Proof of foreign affiliation?  And, even if you have it, fight it out in court...corrupt courts...and corrupt DemCom's ignoring court orders...all leading to what?  See next point...

*After-the-fact sanctioning...of foreign interference...so what?

*Assessment by DeepState agencies...is worth what exactly?

*Executive Order - DemCom's won't recognize an edict by whom they call Hitler.

*Lastly...this order provides no remedy for correcting a fraud-filled election...

Seems a pointless video IMO...am I wrong?



 ::siren::  BREAKING NEWS!   ::siren::

OK, we will find out in short order if this EO has any teeth...if this is correct -

From our source: The US government, once they determined that this Dominion server was involved in switching votes, then the intelligence community began a search for the server and discovered that the server was in Germany. In order to get access to that server and have it available for use in a legal manner they had to have the State Department work in tandem with the Department of Justice. They had to request that the government of Germany cooperate in allowing this seizure of this server.

https://youtu.be/NYnf1r8mXXs

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-attorney-sidney-powell-coinfirms-alleged-dominion-servers-germany-confiscated-video/

There is the foreign angle.

Now, let's see what the IC has to dance about on this.  Interesting that the Army, not FBI/Interpol...not CIA/Bundesnachrichtendienst...the US Army!  Could be Trump outmanuevered the DeepState.  But, info has to make it back intact, has to be forensically analyzed...not sure how that is done without a DeepState schmuck getting near it.

And even if it follows the rest of the EO script and there are sanctions...and prosecution on this side of the pond will have to go through corrupt courts...and I see no vehicle short of a SCOTUS ruling that is somehow enforced that can change the election fraud.

But, for arguments sake...say it happens.  There is also the possibility of faithless electors and political shenannigans by DemCom's.

Any way, more drama for a drama filled year.

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #981 on: November 19, 2020, 06:55:38 PM »
  I watched just about the whole thing and if this doesn't start a civil war nothing will.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #982 on: November 19, 2020, 07:09:57 PM »
Me too and Rudy said that the Trump team has only brought 3 law suits so far, so if any libtard says that trump is 0 for 24 or whatever you know they are FOS.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #983 on: November 19, 2020, 08:09:16 PM »
  I watched just about the whole thing and if this doesn't start a civil war nothing will.

They revealed all of this to us back in 2016.. and there was mummurs of it as far back as 2008 that I came across.
I remember reading about the weighted voting in 2016 - when Hillary was bitching about Russian involvement-- which if it did happen
meant that the Deep State/Democrat attempt tocheat was thwarted by Russian intelligence hacking in to these systems after the fix was in- and fixing it back...

But as soon as anyone started using mail-in voting  the fix was in..

However this by itself will not cause a civil war.

If this goes as I expect, Biden is sworn in - possilby amdi violence. Possibly not

But as TPTB move to implement the "great Reset" - when they come for guns  or come with needles - and try to force people to give up property in exchange ofor UBI or food... that is when  the "nothing to loose' phase kicks in .

Seriously - any preps you are missing.. now is the time.. and I mean the basics
Guns
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Dried food.
A Freeze drier
A Grain mill
Heirloom seeds

Order birds or rabbits or whatever meat you will do
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #984 on: November 20, 2020, 07:33:52 AM »
If illegitimate criminals are sworn in...then the oath is nullified...it's like Satan giving communion...

And, asking for a friend...wouldn't 3 fortuitously coordinated events be a good start to CWII?

ETA - In other news...

The fustercluck that 2020 is...is making 2000 look like a walk in the park...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sidney-powell-says-trump-legal-team-will-sue-officials-invalidate-election-results

...and my faith in the corrupt courts is so low as to be unreadable...

ETA - And on that latter note...

Let us not lose sight of GOPer's who keep playing by broken rules...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/update-seems-important-dominion-refused-testify-pa-house-committee-today-lawyered-instead/

The language used implies they were invited, not under subpoena...

 ::facepalm::

And apparently no DA, US Atty or other LEO outfit seems to deem it important enough to warrant arrests, seizures...you know the full Roger Stone treatment...

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #985 on: November 22, 2020, 09:37:01 AM »
Zerohedge,

land of the comments worth reading:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/triumph-mankind-over-great-reset-guns-books-social-contract

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Licensed hunters in the US are the largest armed population in the world. And that excludes quite a number of shooters who don't hunt at all. Many of them expert shooters. Look at Australia, which was previously one of the most free nations in the world. It didn't take long for that to change once they were disarmed. Myself, I'm married to my arms, till death do us part. You only have the rights you can defend. Which is why 2A is second on the list, the first being "let's talk about it".

Only they won't talk..will they?



America requires a modern-day Sons of Liberty that engages in asymmetric warfare against the marxist-globalist enemy. Targets might include senior level bureaucrats and oligarchs, media and education propagandists, international NGOs, prominent socialists, communists, fascists, monopolists, and all other violent, collectivist, control freak types. The value of targets would be prioritized over the volume of targets. The group would need to be decentralized yet structured, flexible, highly mobile, redundant, well-financed and disciplined, with division of labor among members based upon strengths, talents, and knowledge. The group would mirror the modern state in its organization (a violent part, a propaganda part, a fund raising part, etc.) but not in its methods or activities. Most missions would be carried out by carefully selected teams of 3-5 people with complementary skills and knowledge. They would get in, execute the mission, get out and melt away.

The primary goal woild be the paralysis of the enemy through fear and much could be accomplished by doing relatively little at first. Asymmetric warfare is a long series of a thousand paper cuts. Initially, even modest success would strike fear into the hearts of the marxist-globalist enemy. If executed properly the nightly propaganda programs would be filled with wall-to-wall Sons of Liberty coverage that would make the flu hysteria look like an afterthought in comparison. We know that the enemy is psychologically weak and already prone to hysteria and hysterical thinking. Time is your friend when confronting such enemies because constant hysteria consumes a lot of energy and takes a high psychological toll. Small, consistent acts of destruction over long periods of time is the recipe for success. A slow, steady diet of paper cuts eventually begins to feel like bullet holes to weak-minded people. The enemy is soft and unaccustomed to hard living. They are flabby, rich, restless, depraved, unhappy and bored with themselves. Their hands are soft from living off the labor of others their entire lives. The coming economic collapse will further multiply their fears and psychological problems. Activities against the enemy should therefore always seek to exploit their feeble psychological state. 

A mission must never be considered a success without the act being put into proper context. This is so important that a concrete example might be helpful. Imagine that a hospital administrator fires a nurse for saying that "all lives matter" and the SOL decides to take it out. One dead hospital administrator, without context, is utterly useless. If no one understands why it had to die then why bother? It is imperative that enemy propagandists be given a context or narrative to disseminate so that everyone clearly understands why a particular action was taken. A random act from some thug? Worthless. Part of a coordinated campaign of terror against the enemy? Pure gold. Now you have a basis for fear. Now you are beginning to control the enemy through fear. What happens the next time a hospital administrator contemplates discharge over wrong think? Maybe it doesn't happen a second time. Behavior modification through fear. The enemy begins to second-guess itself. I was going to fire Sue but I saw a suspicious character across the street today. Could it have been one of THEM? Is it worth my life to eradicate wrong think from the hospital? As luck would have it, the enemy will enthusiastically spread this fear as part of its propaganda, believing that such reporting is doing us harm when in fact the opposite is true. Nothing is more important than understanding how to manipulate your enemy when your enemy possesses far more resources than you do. In fact, such manipulation is the very essence of asymmetric warfare.

Two caveats - if they ever manage to monopolize the firearms, winning will be 100x more difficult. We must not wait for that to occur. This solution only works with some basic means to go on the offensive. Secondly, this is all a thought experiment. I would of course never seriously contemplate killing anyone to avoid becoming enslaved. That would just be crazy.

Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!

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The single-most revolutionary legal document to have arisen in the course of the last three-hundred years in the western tradition was the U.S. Constitution.

The person that wrote this is ignorant of history.

The single-most revolutionary legal document to have arisen in the course of the last three-hundred years in the western tradition was the Declaration of Independence.

The USofA was formed by armed citizens who joined together to take a stand against scofflaw tyranny and establish in its place a Democratic Republic based on the Rule of Natural Law.

It came from this legal declaration that spawned the Age of Reason:

The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, which obliges every one: and reason, which is that law, teaches all mankind, who will but consult it, that being all equal and independent, no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions ~ Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience. ~ John Locke 1690

Without an individual's ability to defend their God-given rights full stop against ALL that threaten them, the individual does not have rights, but privileges that are licensed & controlled by the State.

The Declaration of Independence is a dividing line in history; The advent of individual rights vs. the divine rights of kings...

Americans have all but lost their true rights, due to emergency powers, but they could be restored in an instant if the majority of US citizens demanded it ~ Too bad, so sad that the sheeple are woefully ignorant of US history & legal systems, as is the writer, and if the Shining Light on the Hill doesn't return to Natural Law soon, it'll be too late.
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The great reset and the imagined 4th industrial revolution have their roots in the elite's realization that exponential growth is impossible on a finite planet and that the Maltheusian catastrophe is inevitable.  They intend to control the die off.  They intend to determine who lives and who dies. They want to cull the population to the point that it is sustainable in their imagined dystopia.  They want the population large enough to provide them the borg servants they require and diverse enough to provide them the pleasure bots they desire.  Their imagined dystopia is a combination of 1984 and Brave New World.  There is no place in this system for free men.

The problems with their fantasy comes at many levels.   One of the first is that when complex systems collapse, they tend to collapse well below their base line.  When the system tips over.  The collapse will be fast and hard.  Chaos will reign for several months as starvation works through the population.  The assumption that millions of desperate dangerous people can be controlled over looks the fact the rural areas are filled with millions of well provisioned and well armed people who do not embrace their fantasy.  Yes, many millions will willingly head to the gulags in the hopes of something to eat.  Millions of others will not get into the lines.

The second assumption is that their contractors that provide their security systems will remain loyal.  Once this rolls over, the odds are the captains of some of these security teams will see their bosses as an unnecessary impediment that can easily be removed with a 9 mm round to the back of their heads.

The third assumption is that the oligarchs will in fact cooperate and not harvest each other for resources.  Greed and avarice will not come to an end once the great reset has reached its final solution.  One oligarch will have something the others want and they will take him out.  Once that barrier is crossed, they will tear each other to pieces.

The final fact is that this imagined dystopia is entirely energy dependent.  Disrupt the energy flow and the entire system crashes.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #986 on: November 22, 2020, 11:38:45 AM »
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Incredible breaking news arrived for President Trump and his legal team from the Supreme Court as we learn that the 4 Conservative judges have been reassigned to the 4 Liberal states where Dominion Voting voter fraud is suspected.

This is unbelievable news coming out of Washington tonight, as we learn that the 4 Supreme Court justices have been reassigned to the 4 Democrat-controlled states of MI, WI, PA and GA, where President Trump and his team insist votes have been manipulated and switched. This means that if Sidney Powell really has the proof she insists she has to prove that the vote was hacked through Dominion Voting, we could be on the edge of the most-explosive period in America history.

https://stillnessinthestorm.com/2020/11/amazing-breaking-news-for-president-trump-as-the-4-conservative-supreme-court-justices-have-now-been-reassigned-to-cover-mi-wi-pa-and-ga/

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The US Supreme Court on Friday released its new circuit assignments for the justices. The good news? Conservative Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito, Amy Coney Barrett and Clarence Thomas were all assigned to crucial battleground states such as Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin and Michigan.(Snip)What does this mean? Law & Crime breaks it down: The federal court system is made up of district courts, appellate courts, and the U.S. Supreme Court. After a case has made its way through one of the nation’s 94 trial courts, a party may appeal to the circuit court in their jurisdiction. The image below helpfully outlines what the circuit boundaries are

https://www.lucianne.com/2020/11/20/supreme_court_unveils_new_circuit_assignments_for_justices__here_is_the_breakdown_48769.html
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #988 on: November 22, 2020, 09:17:15 PM »
Breaking: Powell is out

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1330638034619035655?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Well that was quick.

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #989 on: November 23, 2020, 05:55:45 AM »
That's it,all over

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #990 on: November 23, 2020, 06:40:22 AM »
Wait.  WAIT.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #991 on: November 23, 2020, 08:05:56 AM »
https://noqreport.com/2020/11/23/sidney-powells-separation-from-team-trump-had-nothing-to-do-with-dominion-conspiracy-theories/

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... As do many things in America, it comes down to money. Powell was not being paid and likely wasn’t being reimbursed for her expenditures that were not directly related to what Giuliani and the official Trump team were doing. Perhaps yesterday morning she came and asked to be officially hired and was rejected. More likely, she came and said she needed to start raising funds and they told her she couldn’t work with the team directly and run her own fundraiser without it being reported as GOP money.

Either way, she wasn’t going to get paid or reimbursed enough, so they decided to go their separate ways. Here’s her reply to our request for comment:

"I agree with the campaign’s statement that I am not part of the campaign’s legal team. I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees.  My intent has always been to expose all the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may–whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.

The evidence I’m compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from President Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democrat candidates.  We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week.  It will be epic.

We will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without and within or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in HongKong, Iran, Venezuela, or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country.  #WeThePeople elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

You may assist this effort by making a non tax-deductible contribution to www.DefendingTheRepublic.org.  #KrakenOnSteroids”

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #992 on: November 23, 2020, 08:42:19 AM »
First, ZH does have a sensible contingent of people who will not go quietly...if the elites think their Great Reset trumps the Great Reckoning and their supposedly control over all reigns is supreme...well, we shall see!

Second, found the SCOTUS assignments and posted to Judiciary thread earlier this AM, did not see this thread to last, so my bad.  But the point is made...the assignments are interesting...if they come into play at all and how they are handled is to be seen.

Lastly, I concur with Pan...we should remain calm, nothing in the Powell situation should be concerning...it is likely as an independent interested party any court cases will sweep in all participants...and it may be advantageous for Powell to be independent...and I am saying this as someone with a pretty low opinion of our corrupt courts...so it is what it is.

In terms of all of this...nothing has changed from our point of view, we know who we are, we know what is happening, we know what we will do and we put our faith in God and ourselves...everything else is noise, rearranging furniture but not altering our course one iota.

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #993 on: November 23, 2020, 08:46:27 AM »
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... posted to Judiciary thread earlier this AM, did not see this thread to last, so my bad.

Meh, no blood, no report, right?

Re:  Powell etc., so many things come down to money.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #994 on: November 23, 2020, 08:54:08 AM »
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... posted to Judiciary thread earlier this AM, did not see this thread to last, so my bad.

Meh, no blood, no report, right?

Re:  Powell etc., so many things come down to money.

That is the prevailing thought at TLR/CT...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/22/republican-business-interests-separate-from-sidney-powell/

...and Powell did not contradict anything.

And there are other parties involved in all this...ACLJ, Judicial Watch...my prediction this could drag on a bit might be right, we'll see how much emergency expedition there is and if it is limited or contradictory in any way...in the end it might be a final shaking out of chaff...

ETA - Saw comments at TLR/CT...a nice compare/contrast exercise...



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We are outnumbered...but our enemies are cowards and egomaniacal sociopaths...they cannot win...the nation may not survive but free people will.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #995 on: November 23, 2020, 10:50:15 AM »
Salty Cracker offers an interesting interpretation of Powell's announcement here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K7rOabIyGc

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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #996 on: November 23, 2020, 11:06:59 AM »
Salty Cracker offers an interesting interpretation of Powell's announcement here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K7rOabIyGc

I just read a piece that outlines exactly what he's saying.  Oh yeah, it was The Conservative Treehouse post that Libertas linked to.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #997 on: November 23, 2020, 11:34:13 AM »
RNC wants to party while their ship plows full-speed into an iceberg...

Trump's legal team and Powell are not on different pages...it's the RNC and the E-GOP fools that are on the wrong page...

Tip the orchestra, play on...
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
« Reply #998 on: November 23, 2020, 03:01:54 PM »
Well, this is interesting...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/just-third-circuit-court-appeals-grants-expedited-review-team-trumps-appeal-pennsylvania/

...3rd District has 4 Obloa and 4 Trump appointees to cancel each other out...with any decisions left to 4 W and 2 Slick Willie appointees...

I'd call that a crap-shoot...

And in another crap-shoot...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/death-star-strategy-trump-contemplating-ultimate-constitutional-trick-shot

...go ahead, ask me if I care?  You know the answer.  If people are so perfectly fine killing off the Republic then there should be no soiled diapers over sending this sh!tshow over the cliff...if it is between that and going quietly into Soviet-style despotism...the more noise the better.

Best send the message now so when Soviet laws coming rolling down and the round ups, camps and executions begin there will be no surprises for patriots or fools...and the party can really get spicy.
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Re: 2018 and 2020 could have lots of fireworks
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