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Asia Times...not much better than NY Times...dreck is dreck - INF issue
Libertas:
'ol Dick Bitz is a long-time America-hating turd-world-dwelling BRICS-pimping moron...proves it in every piece written...especially this one on Trump threatening to pull out of the broken INF treaty:
Flash forward to 2018. Trump’s foreign policy coterie, led by Secretary of State Michael Pompeo and National Security Advisor John Bolton – a man who was never a fan of arms control agreements – has accused Russia of violating the INF Treaty by continuing to test two types of missiles.
The first is the SSC-8 cruise missile, reportedly a ground-launched version of the ship- and submarine-based Kalibr missile system. The INF Treaty does not apply to sea-based or air-launched intermediate-range delivery vehicles.
Russia has been testing the SSC-8 for the past decade and it supposedly has a range of 2,500 kilometers, placing it clearly within the banned zone.
Second, Moscow is also working on a ballistic missile designated the RS-26. Although technically an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), that is, with a range greater than 5,500 kilometers, the RS-26 has been test-fired at distances of about 2,000 kilometers, potentially making it an INF weapon in disguise.
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More to the point, it is likely that the Trump administration is concerned more about the build-up of Chinese nuclear forces than it is about Russia. The INF Treaty applies only to the US and Russia, and China has been steadily expanding its stable of medium- and intermediate-range nuclear forces for decades.
More importantly, it has significantly built up its strategic nuclear forces, which now stands at about 50-60 ICBMs, particularly road-mobile, solid-fueled rockets.
The US argument inferred here is that Washington lacks the capacity to deploy countering nuclear forces closer to China and that it therefore needs ground-based INF in Asia.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-11/china-agenda-behind-trump-leaving-inf-treaty
Got that? Russia can cheat and build up, China can build up...and America cannot be allowed to cheat, cannot be allowed to build and cannot be allowed to leave the INF! Oh, and America is always wrong, must always surrender...and Trump is evil!
Yeah, that'll work...
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Pandora:
Yah, well, bullsh*te to that.
We should not go looking for trouble or interfere in affairs that clearly do not adversely affect us, but we as a country need to be able to defend and project if necessary. IOW, don't want no sh*te, don't start no sh*te.
Libertas:
Amen!
John Florida:
As much as I agree with both of you we cannot forget that we have agreements with allies that will be taking a pounding long before it gets to us that we will back them. We sell them down the river they can turn on us for their own safety.
Pandora:
--- Quote from: John Florida on December 12, 2018, 01:03:59 PM --- As much as I agree with both of you we cannot forget that we have agreements with allies that will be taking a pounding long before it gets to us that we will back them. We sell them down the river they can turn on us for their own safety.
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Agreements with allies? Which allies would those be, like Britain and Australia, two of the FiveEyes intel "community", that were part of the cabal spying on Trump from his campaign on to the Presidency? Those allies? Or France's Macron, who openly mocked and disparaged Trump's view of nationalism for us?
We need better, real allies, so, I'm guessing those agreements need to be redone as have our trade policies.
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