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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2019, 11:11:08 AM »
Alright, enough!  I have to say it:  there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian.
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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2019, 03:58:24 PM »
Alright, enough!  I have to say it:  there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian.

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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2019, 07:04:06 AM »
Well...it is one of those terms that has changed over time...what initially meant to describe Jews wanting to keep Jesus for the Jews (as opposed to Paul who wanted him spread to Jews and Gentiles alike) and came into being just a couple hundred years ago was adopted to embrace Jews persecuted by fascism (and as people learned in graphic detail later they were systematically exterminated by fascism) and it has kinda been used in a brotherly fashion since.  So yes there is no such thing as a Judeo-Christian person or community really and...damn, I started this thread...well, I guess to convey common cause against both the fascist left and the fascist islaminals I used an improper term and should have went with just Christians and Jews or just Christians and mentioned Jews are also hated by both crazies.  How do I unscrew that pooch?

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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2019, 07:33:57 AM »
I take the term 'Judeo/Christian' to mean the shared common, moral values of Judaism & Christianity: both worship the same God, use the Torah (Old Testament) & the Ten Commandments - as opposed to Islam.

A common notion/belief is that the "3" monotheistic religions (Islam is not a true religion) worship the same god. They do not. Jews & Christians worship the God of the Bible; Islam worships a fictitious moon "god", nicknamed Allah. The attributes of Allah in no way resemble the triune God of the Bible.
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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2019, 08:11:00 AM »
Yes, but the term "Abrahamic" is often used by islaminals as they claim Abraham as the first musloidal creature...which is total and complete BS...Abraham lived (depending upon your interpretation of biblical facts and years and assumptions for gaps) about 1850-1670BC which is over 2 millennia earlier than when the Incubus Mohammad (570-632AD) embraced Allah (aka Satan).
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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2019, 09:52:17 AM »
Yes, but the term "Abrahamic" is often used by islaminals as they claim Abraham as the first musloidal creature...which is total and complete BS...Abraham lived (depending upon your interpretation of biblical facts and years and assumptions for gaps) about 1850-1670BC which is over 2 millennia earlier than when the Incubus Mohammad (570-632AD) embraced Allah (aka Satan).

The Isaac vs Ishmael feud is where that originates. Abraham & Sarah, impatient with God's plan, set it up for Abraham to have a child with Sarah's maid Hagar. God doesn't bless that plan:

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God rejects Abraham’s proposal. He reassures him that Ishmael will become a great people, “but my covenant I shall establish with Isaac.” Only Isaac, the son you will have with Sarah, can be your true heir, and only Isaac can father the people with whom I will enter into a covenant as my “kingdom of priests and holy nation.”

This is more than a technical choice. God’s insistence on Isaac as the progenitor of His chosen people tells us something very fundamental about the nature of our relationship with Him.

For Ishmael and Isaac differed in two significant respects:

  • Ishmael came into the world by natural means, while Isaac’s birth was a supernatural event.
  • Ishmael was circumcised at the age of thirteen, the age of daat (awareness), whereas Isaac entered into the covenant of circumcision   as an eight day-old infant—an age at which a person is not even aware of what is taking place, much less of its significance.
   
   
In other words, Ishmael represents a rational relationship with God, one that is based upon a person’s nature and understanding. Isaac represents a supranatural, supra-rational bond.

Source The Contrast Between Isaac and Ishmael

Muslims claim Ishmael as the heir, Jews & Christians, Issac. A reading of scripture will reveal who is correct (HINT: it ain't Muslims).
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Re: The Progressive War Against our Judeo-Christian tradition continues
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