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Russian boots on the ground in Venezuela - Russian Imperialism in Action
Pandora:
--- Quote from: patentlymn on March 25, 2019, 08:54:25 PM ---Ok, we did not do anything in Libya, the US govt did. The MSM is silent on the damage we did to Libya for no good reason. That is to protect Obama and Hillary. The UK House of Commons wanted to know why Britain did the damage to Libya in 2011. They wrote a report in 2016.
There was no good reason.
https://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/foreign-affairs-committee/news-parliament-2015/libya-report-published-16-17/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/14/mps-deliver-damning-verdict-on-camerons-libya-intervention
https://www.salon.com/2016/09/16/u-k-parliament-report-details-how-natos-2011-war-in-libya-was-based-on-lies/
I never thought I would conclude that Ghaddafi was a good guy or the US was a force for evil in Libya but now I do. Sue me.
Trivia: I read two books on the French conquest of Morocco and the Sahara. Military history. The author said that the new sultan was chosen based on a combination of military prowess and religious piety. It helped to be descended from Muslim holy men. If you were a little crazy that helped because it meant you were closer to God (Allah). I thought of Ghaddafi.
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You keep writing "we"; I think that word doesn't mean what you think it means.
Don't get defensive, p. and no, nobody's gonna sue you; we're all friends here, but we're going to keep the record straight, right?
There was a good reason for the damage done to Libya; it just wasn't *our* good reason and I believe there were no good guys involved; Gadaffi certainly wasn't, but he was defanged. (WE are not the govt., that's the State; we're the nation.)
Libertas:
TWANLOC
Says it all.
As for Venezuela...not that I have to defend the government...but where's the beef my friend?
"Governments" pop off at the mouth all the time...words are swell, words are wonderful and I like words...but words don't mean jack squat without action. Other than freezing assets and suspending imports of oil the US government hasn't done a damn thing in-country...the US government has no boots on the ground...
And to be perfectly fair and honest...most all "governments" turn everything "to sh*t". It's what they do well. Russia is no different. I say again...Russia in no different. They are driven by greed, power and ego...just like any other flawed human-led government...we can quibble over degrees...but in the end it is just that...quibbling. Tally up both sides of everybody's ledgers...their overall score on the useless and dangerous scale will be pretty damn close...it's only the outliers, the worst of regimes that comparisons start to generate differentiation.
It's a concept those extreme Russophiles and cult of personality PaulBot types like at Zerohedge that simply cannot conceive of any other government on the planet being worse than America (and people keep invading us to live here...because it sucks so much!)...which is obviously insane...there is no Eden, no Shangri-la. The Good Book says to put away childish things...a lot of people struggle with that concept.
And the old "invited" angle doesn't fly...Moscow is 6,176 miles from Caracas...they have no strategic interest there, it violates even the Putin Standard of the right of first invasion of neighboring sovereign nations in the name of that sh*t belongs to us...Washington DC is just 2,053 miles away and hasn't invaded...Russia was also "invited" to Afghanistan, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia...that all worked out well. Venezuela is a client state, calling it an invite is like saying banging a prostitute isn't cheating on your wife...
Russia deploys troops and 35 tons of cargo...
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2019-03-25/russia-deploys-troops-equipment-to-venezuela
America's fault! Yeah, tHugo and Maduro's socialist junta paradise had zip to do with it.
Blackouts, blackmarket and black days...America's fault!
https://news.yahoo.com/blackout-hits-swaths-venezuela-including-caracas-193309849.html
Horror, fear, despair and looting!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/26/venezuela-maracaibo-power-electricity-looting
Goddamn Americans!
This "disturbed society" is all America's fault!
I guess that's why people are chanting "freedom!" and saying it was a mistake to go down the socialist road and surrender their guns to the benign government...America made them do it!
::)
I'm sure Russia will fix all of that, no price to be paid...and the people will live prosperous and happy lives forever and ever!
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Libertas:
U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday called on Russia to pull its troops from Venezuela and warned that "all options" were open to make that happen.
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/trump-tells-russia-to-get-its-troops-out-of-venezuela/
Heh! Just what the Rooskies said to Obama when he stupidly put boots in Syria!
This other shoe/foot thing is a hoot! ;D
Bad, evil Imperialist Russian dogs!!!
Libertas:
Wow, do the people know their tyrannical socialist overlords just tied more necks and handed the ropes to their erstwhile Russian saviors?
Venezuela's deputy foreign minister Ivan Gil said on Thursday he does not rule out that more Russian military personnel may arrive in Venezuela under agreements already concluded with Russia, Interfax news agency reported.
The deputy minister also said Russian forces will stay in Venezuela as long as needed, and that there is no set period for their stay.
"The group of military specialists is (in Venezuela) in the context of our agreements and contracts for military-technical cooperation," Interfax quoted Gil as saying.
Earlier the Kremlin said Russian military specialists are in Venezuela to service pre-existing contracts for the supply of Russian arms.
http://news.trust.org/item/20190404095809-d5vel
It's just business and the business centers around murder, oppression, lies and oil. And business is bangin', eh?
All Hail the Great Russia-Venezuela Future!
::bus::
Solo:
Last I checked, the Monroe Doctrine is still in place.
The Rooskies have had a woody for getting a foot hold in South America for as long as I can remember. Of course...they aren't the threat they used to be.
A Carrier Group hovering near by will get Putin's attention long enough to send a SEAL team in there to speed Maduro to that great "Collective" in the bowels of Hell.
We'll then see how ole Vlad handles that pooch screw!
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