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US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« on: April 26, 2019, 08:14:20 PM »
I do not know enough about any of this or Iran to have an opinion.
I think the US has a lot of sanctions in place around the world and other countries may grow tired of them.  We may bring them together and against us.
These Duran guys are very anti US sanctions for Iran.  They think this move is dangerous.

BTW This means that the US will sanction any country that buys Iranian oil. That includes China and India.

https://youtu.be/-mAdC7twL-c

also
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/trumps-iran-policy-wont-work-and-thats-a-good-thing/
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2019, 10:12:20 AM »
With respect to Iran there are only three schools of prevailing thought:

1) The Obama School - Capitulate, bribe and play patty-cake...which we can now call playing yellow-cake.

2) The Russian School - Unchanged from Soviet days...give them what they want...as long as they pay for it.

3) The Israeli School - Blow their shyt to Hell.

Europe has signed off on both approaches, both France and Germany have helped build facilities for batshyt thugs like this...and while they may pay lip service both ways to Israeli and thug interests...the truth is if #3 results in continued lucrative contracts in the future...well, exploitation and opportunism is not beneath them.

Trump is trying a new approach, not new to the world per se, but new in the sense that there is an American President willing to buck the DeepState/Statist/Neocon bureaucracy and make it work this time.  It worked in cases in the past like the 1962 missile crisis...and true the Satanic Clerics of Iran make Soviet henchmen look rational in comparison, still...The Obama School and Russian School options are simply futile exercises in croc-feeding with no hope of averting a damn thing!  Naturally I favor the Israeli School...nothing deters crazy assholes like a good stomping.  And no I do not put any stock in that BS "oh no, you'll make them mad!", they are already mad and crazy...thinking you can mollify such a terminal condition makes you out to be the idiot, not the people trying to break that false narrative!

And this so-called American Conservative rag is obviously a standard-bearer for Neocon conspirators...I mean really, they cite "experts" at NPR and WPR?  I guess CNN and RT would have been too obvious.  And Mr. Daniel Larson?  Obviously a cursory review of his articles indicated he is clearly a Charter Member in Good Standing in the #NeverTrump cabal, what's next?  Praise for Mitt Romney?

The average American, if allowed to exercise common sense without such malignant interference and manipulation, can see that a different way and a firm and committed way is better than the slow death people like Mr. Larson offer!
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2019, 09:02:51 PM »

I know little about Iran. I have spent some time digging into both sides of issued like Libya, Syria, and Ukraine. I changed my mind in the process. I never spent any time digging into Iran. I think they support terror around the world, killed US troops in Iraq, want to destroy Israel, want to develop nukes, and are in Syria at the request of the Syrian govt helping to destroy ISIS and AQ. I think Islam is a force for evil in the world.

Over the years I have read some opinions about Iran. The Iranian people like Americans!??? If the US invaded or bombed Iran that would change as they would group together to support the govt. I am not sure how Iranians feel about the US sanctions. The Iranian people are increasingly pissed off at their govt because they are incompetent and corrupt. Over a year ago there was an uprising in some blue collar region because of the lack of drinkable  water and gasoline as I recall. if left alone Iran may collapse.

Imagine if the Catholic church took over the US govt 50 years ago and made great promises and maybe even meant well. 50 years later you don't have gasoline or enough water and they are corrupt and rich and now you hate them and maybe even hate Catholicism.

There was an interesting panel that included opinions on Iran. One guy said Islam is like communism. They are both established by force, promise utopia on earth, are inconsistent with human nature, and fail everywhere they are tried. Iran gave it a go and the Iranian people see that.  The guy said Iran should be contained like the USSR was until it collapses.

https://youtu.be/XaJdKN-ZbHw
Very good. The best parts IMO
23:40 to 28:30 Michael Ledeen on why the deep state went after Flynn. He brought intelligence analysis to the battle field level and threatened those in DC.
48:50 to 1:00:00 Islam and the left.
54:50 Weaknesses of the left and Islam. Ledeen. They are both failed ideologies/states.
56:00 Spencer. They are hypocrisies. They cannot bear inspection of their internal contradictions.
57:30 to 59:00 Krikorian. Islam must be contained until it fails the test of modernity as communism did fail. Iran will fail and lead to Iranians leaving Islam.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2019, 07:25:29 AM »
We had chances to put pressure on Iran with enforced sanctions and at a point in time when we could have supported a rebellion inside there people pulled up short...and Obama made things immensely more difficult by undoing what little was being done and making it insanely worse.  These guys argue for containing Islam...but how do you effectively contain Islam if you cannot even isolate a batshyt crazy Iranian theocracy?  Does "contain" mean doing nothing and hoping they do the same?  It's like the demonazi's being the familiars of Islam...if you cannot deal with the familiars you will never be able to effectively end the death cult.  It's like waiting for faery dust or something...some happy magic that just makes everything awesome again.  Nothing happens in a vacuum, something will fill it...you can chose to be a filler or a fillee.  And if history has shown anything it shows there is almost always a higher price to be paid for not acting prudently with firmness and resolution.

People's will today is fickle and weak...so the price to be paid in the end for all of this just keeps growing.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2019, 05:17:35 PM »
We had chances to put pressure on Iran with enforced sanctions and at a point in time when we could have supported a rebellion inside there people pulled up short...and Obama made things immensely more difficult by undoing what little was being done and making it insanely worse.  These guys argue for containing Islam...but how do you effectively contain Islam if you cannot even isolate a batshyt crazy Iranian theocracy?  Does "contain" mean doing nothing and hoping they do the same?  It's like the demonazi's being the familiars of Islam...if you cannot deal with the familiars you will never be able to effectively end the death cult.  It's like waiting for faery dust or something...some happy magic that just makes everything awesome again.  Nothing happens in a vacuum, something will fill it...you can chose to be a filler or a fillee.  And if history has shown anything it shows there is almost always a higher price to be paid for not acting prudently with firmness and resolution.

People's will today is fickle and weak...so the price to be paid in the end for all of this just keeps growing.

Here is a question to drive home a point. Name one other Dem politician who would have made giving Iran billions a priority? Not one. it was not Dem vs GOP. No other liberal wanted it.  It was only Obama. He was one sick f*ck IMO.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2019, 07:14:08 AM »
We had chances to put pressure on Iran with enforced sanctions and at a point in time when we could have supported a rebellion inside there people pulled up short...and Obama made things immensely more difficult by undoing what little was being done and making it insanely worse.  These guys argue for containing Islam...but how do you effectively contain Islam if you cannot even isolate a batshyt crazy Iranian theocracy?  Does "contain" mean doing nothing and hoping they do the same?  It's like the demonazi's being the familiars of Islam...if you cannot deal with the familiars you will never be able to effectively end the death cult.  It's like waiting for faery dust or something...some happy magic that just makes everything awesome again.  Nothing happens in a vacuum, something will fill it...you can chose to be a filler or a fillee.  And if history has shown anything it shows there is almost always a higher price to be paid for not acting prudently with firmness and resolution.

People's will today is fickle and weak...so the price to be paid in the end for all of this just keeps growing.

Here is a question to drive home a point. Name one other Dem politician who would have made giving Iran billions a priority? Not one. it was not Dem vs GOP. No other liberal wanted it.  It was only Obama. He was one sick f*ck IMO.

Well...the trend in that camp is obvious for any to see, and certainly Hitlery Clinton would have followed more in the SCoaMF's mode than in her Hubby-in-name-only's steps whose contributions while not as nefarious (we are quibbling over degrees of shytbaggery here!) still constituted in giving the Chi-Com's all they wanted in tech and intel for cash, sent that fool Madeline "NotAt" Allbirght to places like N.Korea to wrangle bogus deals like Obama's Iran Treason without the added insult of a cash payment...and basically nothing but hide-the-cigar and launching some cruise missiles at tents and milk factories while the entire Axis Of Evil did as it wanted...ooh, ohh!...and that asshole was more than eager to get us sucked into that Euro-fustercluck Bosnia shyt-show that was 100% a Euro problem not ours or NATO's since neither Serbs nor Croates attacked any member nation...and all we got out of it (especially from Russophiles) is the full blame of ALL Americans for that crap!

And while Carter tried, ineptly (in part due to allowing the military to degrade in men and equipment) in Iran, he did give that Pali trash the hope of a foothold in territory that was never theirs to begin with, and he ignored any communist encroachments in Central and South America.  The Dem as a party effectively broke with the anti-communist/pro-America sentiment that moderated their baser impulses with LBJ.  LBJ being a maniacal egocentric arrogant dirtbag of the first order merely used is past anti-commie cred for the sidewhow of Vietnam while his true aim of enslaving the mass of ignorant wretches to the Dem/State via his Great "Socialist" Society schemes...and it was insidiously successful with the so-called black community...as evidenced by the fact that they (who should know better) believe this day that the Dems freed them from Jim Crow and the KKK and that the Republicans who freed them twice are the rat-bastard racist scum of the earth.

There is no going back for Dems...there is only going down to the depths of Hell...and they eagerly want to drag everybody with them.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2019, 08:11:38 PM »

The first 10 minutes of The Duran features Tucker talking about VE. These guys are refreshing even if you don't agree with them.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 07:37:45 AM »
Sideshows...fears of refugees?  WTF?  We have shyt pouring across the border already and crazy people think more is better and borders redundant so who is pushing this and why does there have to be any refugees if Maduro is tossed, they all go home...and any Maduro loyalist refugees, we'll shyt...drop that crap on Cuba & Russia!  PaulBotian xenophobic safe-space isolationism extremism isn't the answer either.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2019, 07:15:14 AM »
The recent move of a carrier group is nothing to get too excited about...the Stennis had been the on-station (NAS/PG) carrier and was due to be relieved by the Lincoln who is changing homeport to San Diego and the latter was merely announced to be deployed to the region it was headed for anyway, so all that really happened is their Med cruise got shortened.  The on-station flagship (Amphib w/MEU) Kearsarge is still in the AOO.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/07/politics/us-iran-transporting-missiles/index.html

And no I doubt these short-range missiles are able to sea-launch, they are being positioned.

This escalation is all on Iran.  Even the dumbest Theocrat had to know as soon as Trump won office his sweetheart Obama-Kerry scam was toast going forward, and the real damage was already done...the Obama money drop and the OK to develop nukes unimpeded.  They started cracking down on internal dissent...no matter where it came from.  The ratcheted up the Jew and Great Satan hate and funneled more money and weapons to their proxies Hamas and hezbollah.  They fired off nuclear capable ICBMs.  They named a another psychopathic true-believer (Gen. Salami) to command their Revolutionary terrorist unit.  They are seeding the Gulf with WMDs.

Gosh, maybe all the moonbats should start holding hands, singing kum-bah-yah and praying to skittle-shooting unicorns...

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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2019, 11:51:24 AM »
https://www.weaselzippers.us/419958-nbc-sides-with-iran-suggests-trump-provoking-war-on-behalf-of-israel/

Nothing But Criminals network is taking its turn to scream "Jews!" and "Trump!"...proving yet again the 4th Estate and the 5th Column are one in the same.

Makes  me want to break out in a Golden Oldie or two like "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran!" and "Swing softly in the breeze from that lampost!".
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2019, 07:37:39 AM »
Here we go...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9060525/saudi-oil-tanker-sabotage-us-iran/

...yeah, well...sabotage/false flag...hard to tell...and the response of Iran is curious..."worrisome and dreadful"?  Usually if guilty they go off on a Great Satan and/or annihilate Israel tantrum and threaten to kill everybody...I find their response rather tame after rattling their Shamshir's about wiping out our fleet.  Makes me wonder if somebody else is up to something.

Either way this is an easy one to dodge...Saudi ship, let them investigate and act on the results...as long as we are not being targeted it doesn't concern us.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2019, 11:40:54 AM »
Don't buy the BS...look at this pic -



...looks about right for Persian tech based upon Chi-Com blueprints...

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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2019, 06:26:20 PM »

I found this 10 min simple minded explanation of the Iran-Saudi conflict in the ME.
It cleared some things up for me. I did not know there was this pattern.
https://youtu.be/veMFCFyOwFI
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 07:07:58 AM »
An even simpler version - Sunni hate Shia, Shia hate Sunni.  Especially when Sunni have Mecca & Medina and the Great Satan supporting them...as to the latter I want that to end...but that is problematic as long as the Satanic Theocracy of Iran is run by the batshyt crazy.  We can debate from now till Judgement Day who is more insane - the Wahabbi wanderers who became oil-rich or the Mahdi-embracing Shia wanting to bring about the apocalypse...in the end both must go...and I say the seekers of Satanic prophesy and nuclear capability thanks to idiots like Obama pose the more immediate threat to free people of the planet.
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2019, 06:53:20 PM »

2 1/2 min of humor on the recent ME news, as GOT.
https://youtu.be/TcgaIXZjTjA
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2019, 06:50:26 AM »
Yeah...clever...but they obviously buy the Obama...er, Littlefvcker...line of BS! 
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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2019, 07:06:22 AM »
pMSN makes mountain out of mole hill...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-undercuts-john-bolton-on-north-korea-and-iran/ar-AAC2EcQ

...nothing wrong with a little tough cop/tougher cop.

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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 06:51:49 AM »
The oil-rich wandering goatherds call on neighbors to rein in their Persian foe -

https://www.arabianbusiness.com/politics-economics/421384-saudi-king-calls-on-gulf-states-to-tackle-irans-criminal-acts

OK, let the Shia vs Sunni rumble commence!

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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2019, 06:56:38 AM »
6 months away?

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/264205

Nothing in the Obama "Peace in Our Time" capitulation and payoff would have curtailed it...

As always with demoturds it fall to someone else to clean up their crap!

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Re: US to end waivers for Iran oil embargo
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2019, 07:19:20 AM »
The Bat-Shiite-Crazy Persians are n-v-t-s nvts but they aren't entirely without guile...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/u-s-commander-says-american-forces-face-imminent-threat-iran-n1014556

...keeping the pressure on and staying alert is prudent...but those Armageddon-craving Satanists know they have to buy time to build a bunch of nukes before they do anything overtly violent.

And unfortunately for Iran's enemies public fecklessness and political cowardice is perfectly aligned to give them the time they need.
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