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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #680 on: September 30, 2012, 11:24:05 AM »
I'm starting to like Univision, they are not letting up!  As opposed to the MFM here that only knows how to roll over for DemonRats!

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/29/video-univisions-bombshell-report-on-fast-furious/

Maybe this will help Congress get off its ass!  Think the reassignment of O'Reilly was timely?

Better bag him before Obama & Holder bury him!

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #681 on: September 30, 2012, 11:54:00 AM »
The only reason why this isn't the lynch-pin that unraveled the Øbozo reelection campaign is the lack of interest on the part of pubbies - starting with mittens. Never a day - never a moment should have gone by without someone pointing to F&F and asking why aren't people (Witholder) in jail?!

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #682 on: September 30, 2012, 07:27:02 PM »
The ticket is saying it but the MFM doesn't care to give any credence to it...typical Republican extremism and racism ya know...

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/30/paul-ryan-eric-holder-must-go-over-fast-and-furious/
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #683 on: October 02, 2012, 11:34:25 AM »
More Obama Admin "nothing to see here, move along" F&F fallout/carnage...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-mexican-drug-cartel-boss-arrested-with-fast-and-furious-weapons/

And no confirmation of weapon sources at this clash near Brian Terry Station -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-two-border-patrol-agents-shot-in-arizona-one-killed/

...and the scum responsible got away.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #684 on: October 05, 2012, 01:01:33 PM »
As a sort of sidebar to this scandal and coverup is, this is another scandal:

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"Border Patrol Agent Nicholas Ivie was confirmed to have been killed on federal land (see map) where law enforcement access is stymied in favor of environmental protection  ...". 

... Ivie, along with two other agents, responded to a border sensor in the early morning hours Tuesday about five miles into Arizona. Ivie was shot to death and one of the other agents was wounded.

They were stationed out of Naco, where the Border Patrol outpost was recently renamed in honor of another slain agent who worked there: Brian Terry of the “Fast and Furious” case.

... The agents were on horseback, which can navigate the rugged terrain but also comply with the rules against Border Patrol agents using mechanized transportation on wilderness lands. Another option is sending agents out on foot.

Out of the more than 20 million acres of Interior Department and U.S. Forest Service land along the southern border, 4.3 million acres are classified as wilderness areas.

The Center for Biological Diversity has been one of the organizations charging that greater access for the Border Patrol on federal lands would harm the environment.

... much of the damage has been the result of Border Patrol vehicles riding roughshod over wilderness areas,” the center said in a September 2011 statement.

But restricted enforcement on federal lands has meant that drug cartels have freer rein over the corridors — and they’re not exactly environmentally sensitive.

“That’s ludicrous,” Bishop said of the environmentalist blame directed at the Border Patrol. “The bad guys are already using mechanized vehicles.”

While regulations prevent the Border Patrol from constructing any paved or unpaved roads in wilderness lands, cartels have already cut 8,000 miles of off-road tracks into the Arizona border territory. Law enforcement is also prohibited from constructing watch towers or landing aircraft in the wilderness areas, which are marred by piles of trash and waste left by smugglers.

Like this ....



... a photo I saved from elsewhere as an example.



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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #685 on: October 05, 2012, 03:27:47 PM »
"And no confirmation of weapon sources at this clash near Brian Terry Station -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-two-border-patrol-agents-shot-in-arizona-one-killed/

...and the scum responsible got away."

No confirmation of weapons assailants used.  No confirmation whether agents were armed with pistols, rifles and lethal cartridges for each.  Was there a firefight? Did they return fire at all?  How did the unharmed agent respond?


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #686 on: October 05, 2012, 04:27:36 PM »
"And no confirmation of weapon sources at this clash near Brian Terry Station -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-two-border-patrol-agents-shot-in-arizona-one-killed/

...and the scum responsible got away."

No confirmation of weapons assailants used.  No confirmation whether agents were armed with pistols, rifles and lethal cartridges for each.  Was there a firefight? Did they return fire at all?  How did the unharmed agent respond?



Considering Napolitano's DHS released a policy report instructing agents to run away rather than fight, and if they have to fight are ordered to first fire beanbag projectiles, what do you think?
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #687 on: October 05, 2012, 04:37:09 PM »

I think I don't understand a person why a person would put himself
in such jeopardy.  It's not love of God and country; they knew/know
the legal and political situation prohibit any effective constraint of
the rampant/flagrant breach of our border.


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #688 on: October 05, 2012, 04:40:24 PM »
I don't get it either, CO. 

I have no idea what our current military recruitment/re-upping numbers are, but in a sane world, I'd expect to hear about a massive drop.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #690 on: October 06, 2012, 12:01:09 PM »
Yeah, like I trust the DoJ under this Regime...
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« Reply #692 on: October 06, 2012, 12:42:23 PM »
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #693 on: October 06, 2012, 01:40:20 PM »
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #694 on: October 07, 2012, 01:45:17 PM »

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #695 on: October 07, 2012, 07:53:19 PM »
Any other Administration...

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #697 on: December 19, 2012, 02:04:16 AM »
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #698 on: December 19, 2012, 07:24:56 AM »
Didn't have to wait long, did we?   ::unknowncomic::
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