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« Reply #620 on: June 28, 2012, 04:33:40 PM »

At this moment 244 yea  84 nay, Eric Holder in civil contempt.

As I understand it, this will allow them authority to pursue
Holder without using one of his subcontinents to prosecute
him.

ETA the numbers will change, the time is up but the vote is
not closed.


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #621 on: June 29, 2012, 06:47:43 AM »
Criminal contempt: 255-67-1 with 100 cowards running out.

Civil contempt: 258-95 with the rest being cowards.

And Nasty Pelosi cannot even say slain agent Brian Terry's name properly...

Nasty Proglodyte

Tay?  Otay...   ::)  What a loser!

And what does the criminal Holder do after being the first sitting cabinet member to be held in contempt of congress?

Yup, he goes to DisneyWorld!

DirtbagHolderAtDisney

That presser of his was the most dishonest, most disingenuious and most blatantly ridiculous public display in US AG history!

Boehner should order him put in chains and placed in a pillory...but it'll just get kicked to the DC courts and won't be acted upon until after the election, if there is an election...
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« Reply #622 on: June 29, 2012, 07:02:23 AM »
I was watching this event with great interest.  One thing that struck me was the 'New Black Panthers' decided they were gonna go all nutters if With-holder got hung with a contempt..   like always, they turned into pussies..         ::popcorn::

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« Reply #623 on: June 29, 2012, 02:15:43 PM »
Hat tip: Small Dead Animals

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Now, the other shoe.

In the midst of a fiery floor debate over contempt proceedings for Attorney General Eric Holder, House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) quietly dropped a bombshell letter into the Congressional Record.

The May 24 letter to Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), ranking member on the panel, quotes from and describes in detail a secret wiretap application that has become a point of debate in the GOP’s “Fast and Furious” gun-walking probe.

The wiretap applications are under court seal, and releasing such information to the public would ordinarily be illegal. But Issa appears to be protected by the Speech or Debate Clause in the Constitution, which offers immunity for Congressional speech, especially on a chamber’s floor.

According to the letter, the wiretap applications contained a startling amount of detail about the operation, which would have tipped off anyone who read them closely about what tactics were being used.

Holder and Cummings have both maintained that the wiretap applications did not contain such details and that the applications were reviewed narrowly for probable cause, not for whether any investigatory tactics contained followed Justice Department policy.

The wiretap applications were signed by senior DOJ officials in the department’s criminal division, including Deputy Assistant Attorney General Jason Weinstein, Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco and another official who is now deceased.


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« Reply #624 on: June 29, 2012, 07:02:12 PM »
yep, heard about this.

Perhaps Holder and Obama are about to be Breitbarted.
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« Reply #625 on: June 29, 2012, 07:31:23 PM »


Breitbarted, what a sweet thought.
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/29/issa-grassley-release-details-about-fast-and-furious-whistleblower-retaliation-cover-up/


In a Friday letter to the DOJ’s Inspector General Michael Horowitz, Grassley and Issa said they’re now concerned retaliation is much more likely following Thursday’s votes to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in criminal and civil contempt of Congress.

“We just learned that ATF senior management placed two of the main whistleblowers who have testified before Congress about Fast and Furious under the supervision of someone who vowed to retaliate against them,” they wrote before describing how senior political figures have made dangerous threats before.

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« Reply #626 on: June 30, 2012, 03:52:55 AM »
Breaking: new evidence shows Hillary a mastermind behind Gunwalker

This is a sitting Representative making this accusation.  If it's true it will explain our stuttering crook going Full Nixon.

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[blockquote]...My sources say that this battle of the “statistics” was taken very seriously by all players — the White House, State and Justice. Yet, WHY was this game of statistics so important to the players? If some weapons from the American civilian market were making it to Mexico into the hand of drug gang killers that was bad enough. What was the importance of insisting that it was 90 percent, 80 percent, or finally 70 percent? Would such statistics make any difference to the law enforcement tactics necessary to curtail them? No....the focus on the 90 percent meme was certainly not designed to be a measure of how we were winning the war against arming the cartels, but rather by what overwhelming standard we were LOSING. Why? Recall what the whistleblower ATF agents told us right after this scandal broke in the wake of the death of Brian Terry: “ATF source confirms ‘walking’ guns to Mexico to ‘pad’ statistics.”[/blockquote]

Thus, from the beginning the scheme was to pad statistics on U.S. guns in Mexico in order to be in a strengthened position to call for gun bans and strict gun control at a time when it was politically unpopular. Further, the scheme would involve a made-up statistic, out of thin air–90%–which then had to be proved by using civilian gun retailers along the southern border as unsuspecting pawns to walk U.S. guns into Mexico by ATF agents, straw purchasers, and others with connections to Mexican drug cartels. And the evidence points to the fact that Hillary Clinton was one of the original Administration officials who was ‘in the loop’ on the scheme from the very beginning.

Glad someone is finally saying exactly what we've known all along.

When you want complete power what do you do ? You burn down the Reichstag , blame some amorphic , non-existant group and in the guise of protecting the general population you declare marshal law .

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« Reply #627 on: June 30, 2012, 04:44:20 PM »

CNS News Obama Donor Who Helped Enact Assault-Weapons Ban Ran Fast & Furious

Dennis K. Burke, who as a lawyer for the Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee in the 1990s was a key player behind the enactment of the 1994 assault-weapons ban, and who then went on to become Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano’s chief of staff, and contributor to Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential primary campaign, and a member of Obama’s transition team focusing on immigration issues, ended up in the Obama administration as the U.S. attorney in Arizona responsible for overseeing Operation Fast and Furious.
 

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #628 on: July 01, 2012, 08:59:19 AM »
I was just wondering, based on the recent exposure of the e-mails, and phone taps that essentially prove that With-holder and the rest of that gang were in on this from the start, when will the Vince Foster type depressions kick in and a bunch of people disappearÉ

Second, and more importantly, When you have a Justice Department `refusing` to arrest a criminal because of political reasons, you have allowed a defacto police state to exist.  Be careful gy
uys, your going down a slippery slope.

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« Reply #629 on: July 01, 2012, 04:55:33 PM »

Heh, it's either a slippery pole or a greased pig.

4:50 PM 06/29/2012
By Matthew Boyle


Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley is pressing Ron Machen, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, to explain whether political interference has blocked him from prosecuting Attorney General Eric Holder, whom the House of Representatives held in criminal contempt yesterday.

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...  in a letter to Machen, Grassley wrote Friday that the U.S. attorney doesn’t appear to have personally made the decision not to prosecute. It appears, he wrote, that Holder or some other political figure in the Obama administration made it for him, and that the decision seems to lack even the appearance of “independence.”
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ETA...from the minions:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/google-shopping-censors-all-gun-ammo-accessories-results.html

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« Reply #630 on: July 01, 2012, 07:59:35 PM »
Holder needs to be chained, just get it done, nobody in the Regime will police itself.
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« Reply #631 on: July 02, 2012, 03:48:51 PM »

http://washingtonexaminer.com/secret-service-shuts-down-fire-eric-holder-protest/article/2501155

After discovering a “suspicious package,” the Secret Service ended the protest. “Several agents seemed hostile to our march and seemed anxious for us to leave the area,” Maurice Lewis, a University of California student, told Campus Reform. “The discover[y of] the ‘unidentified package’ came just as the protest began gain traction.”


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« Reply #632 on: July 02, 2012, 04:31:24 PM »
Wonder (not) where that package came from.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #633 on: July 02, 2012, 04:48:20 PM »
Wonder (not) where that package came from.

Hey, look!  A suspicious package!

 ::)

Sad.

They should go back everyday.  See how many stunts they can pull until they are allowed their rights of free speech.

If protesting Bush the MFM would have converged on the site and described a handful of smelly hippie trash as a "huge spontaneous protest" against the evils of W!

This country is dysfunctional in the extreme, arbitrary rights?  Yeah, in turd-world sh*tholes!  The Left has made us one of those sh*tholes!

 ::gaah::
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« Reply #634 on: July 02, 2012, 07:27:41 PM »
Wonder (not) where that package came from.

Hey, look!  A suspicious package!

 ::)

Sad.

They should go back everyday.  See how many stunts they can pull until they are allowed their rights of free speech.

If protesting Bush the MFM would have converged on the site and described a handful of smelly hippie trash as a "huge spontaneous protest" against the evils of W!

This country is dysfunctional in the extreme, arbitrary rights?  Yeah, in turd-world sh*tholes!  The Left has made us one of those sh*tholes!

 ::gaah::


Its probably Holder getting rid of a few more guns.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #635 on: July 03, 2012, 08:24:33 AM »
Wonder (not) where that package came from.

Hey, look!  A suspicious package!

 ::)

Sad.

They should go back everyday.  See how many stunts they can pull until they are allowed their rights of free speech.

If protesting Bush the MFM would have converged on the site and described a handful of smelly hippie trash as a "huge spontaneous protest" against the evils of W!

This country is dysfunctional in the extreme, arbitrary rights?  Yeah, in turd-world sh*tholes!  The Left has made us one of those sh*tholes!

 ::gaah::
  I beg to differ on that third world shythole comment. We may be being governed like a third world country at this moment in time but we as a nation are far from a third wourld country.And God willing that will get fixed in Nov.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #636 on: July 03, 2012, 11:41:34 AM »
Wonder (not) where that package came from.

Hey, look!  A suspicious package!

 ::)

Sad.

They should go back everyday.  See how many stunts they can pull until they are allowed their rights of free speech.

If protesting Bush the MFM would have converged on the site and described a handful of smelly hippie trash as a "huge spontaneous protest" against the evils of W!

This country is dysfunctional in the extreme, arbitrary rights?  Yeah, in turd-world sh*tholes!  The Left has made us one of those sh*tholes!

 ::gaah::
  I beg to differ on that third world shythole comment. We may be being governed like a third world country at this moment in time but we as a nation are far from a third wourld country.And God willing that will get fixed in Nov.

Just projecting ahead JF.  Would love to be wrong.
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« Reply #637 on: July 03, 2012, 12:30:47 PM »
Let's just say a Third World banana republic is what lies at the end of the Obama rainbow.
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« Reply #638 on: July 03, 2012, 01:52:58 PM »

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    PRESS RELEASE

    3 July 2012

    An ethics complaint against U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has been filed by David Codrea and Mike Vanderboegh with the Office of Bar Counsel, Board on Professional Responsibility of the District of Columbia Court of Appeals. Codrea and Vanderboegh are the two bloggers who first broke the news of the Fast and Furious scandal in December 2010.

    Said Vanderboegh, Eric Holder believes that he will escape serious consequences of the congressional investigations of the Fast and Furious scandal simply by running out the clock on his tenure. We intend this ethics complaint to place him on notice that his lies and malfeasances will follow him until justice is done."

    The particulars of the complaint are included in the letter reproduced below.

        July 2, 2012

        Office of Bar Counsel

        Board on Professional Responsibility

        District of Columbia Court of Appeals

        515 5th Street NW

        Building A, Suite 117

        Washington, DC 20001

        In re: Ethics complaint against member Eric H. Holder, Jr.

        Dear board members,

        This letter serves as notice that a complaint is being filed against one of your members for professional misconduct. A search of your website at http://www.dcbar.org/ shows Eric H. Holder, Jr., currently Attorney General of the United States, has been an active DC Bar member since he was admitted on January 23, 1980.

        As per your professional standards published as Rule 8.4, “Misconduct,” at http://www.dcbar.org/for_lawyers/ethics/legal_ethics/rules_of_professional_conduct/amended_rules/rule_eight/rule08_04.cfm, “It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:

           (a) Violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;

            (b) Commit a criminal act that reflects adversely on the lawyer’s honesty, trustworthiness, or fitness as a lawyer in other respects;

            (c) Engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit, or misrepresentation;
         
            (d) Engage in conduct that seriously interferes with the administration of justice;

            (e) State or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or official;

            (f) Knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law; or

            (g) Seek or threaten to seek criminal charges or disciplinary charges solely to obtain an advantage in a civil matter.”

        It would appear that...  continue


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« Reply #639 on: July 04, 2012, 03:07:16 PM »
c,d,&e are no-brainers!
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