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« Reply #640 on: July 04, 2012, 10:30:12 PM »
More evidence:

The Daily Caller - In a letter Tuesday, Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley pressed Attorney General Eric Holder for details about a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives memorandum that indicates his Department of Justice may have tried to cover up the gunwalking tactics that were at the heart of Operation Fast and Furious.

Gary Styers, an ATF special agent in the Lubbock, Texas field office, wrote what Grassley described as a “Fast and Furious memorandum” on Feb. 3, 2011. In it, Styers described how two investigators for Grassley’s Senate Judiciary Committee office had contacted him the day before about the Fast and Furious operation.

The memo described a specific operation in which guns were allowed to walk across the Mexican border. Grassley told Holder that “according to ATF personnel, the memorandum was discussed by high level ATF personnel and possibly forwarded to DOJ headquarters on February 3, 2011.”

On Feb. 4 — one day later — Assistant Attorney General Ron Weich signed a letter to Grassley denying that guns were ever allowed to walk, including in Fast and Furious. The DOJ withdrew that letter to Congress nine months later, admitting that the statement was false.

“The possibility that DOJ was aware of this memorandum [the Styers memo] on February 3, 2011, and still sent the erroneous letter to Congress on February 4, 2011, raises more questions about DOJ’s claim that faulty information from department components inadvertently led to the false letter,” Grassley wrote to Holder.

“This was direct, documented information from street level agents in a far better position to know the facts than the senior supervisory personnel whom DOJ claims to have relied upon for information about the allegations.”

Grassley wrote that he wants Holder to disclose the names of DOJ personnel who knew about the memo before Weich’s letter made it to Congress on Feb. 4, 2011. He also said he wants to be sure the department has gathered and preserved all its records related to the memo, and he asked Holder if he would provide those records to Congress.

In February 2011, Grassley’s investigators talked with Styers for more than a half-hour. In his letter to Holder on Tuesday, Grassley wrote that the “conversation centered on the ATF agent’s recollection of how Fast and Furious was executed and his recollection confirmed the allegations my office had heard from other ATF whistleblowers.”

After that conversation, Styers called his boss, Jim Luera, the resident agent in charge of the Lubbock ATF field office. Luera asked him to document what he told Grassley’s lawyers, and he did.

“Special Agent Styers … relayed that one of the operations was a suspected transaction that was to occur at a gas station and detailed agents were asked to cover the transaction,” Styers wrote in the Feb. 3, 2011 memo, describing himself in the third person.

“While positioning to observe the suspects, Special Agent Styers and other detailed agents were told by Special Agent [Hope] McAllister that agents were too close and would burn the operation. Special Agent McAllister told all the agents to leave the immediate area. While the agents were repositioning, the transaction between the suspects took place and the vehicle that took possession of the firearms eventually left the area without agents following it.”

Styers added later in his memo that Grassley’s investigators asked him “what he felt was incorrect about the way the Fast and Furious case was conducted.”

“Special Agent Styers explained that first and foremost, it is unheard of to have an active wiretap investigation without full time dedicated surveillance units on the ground,” he wrote. “Special Agent Styers relayed that no other agents in the group were assigned to surveillance on the Fast and Furious case. Special Agent Styers said that other agencies or task force officers may have been used to conduct surveillance and respond to calls of FFLs [federal firearms licensees], but it seemed that either the case agent or group supervisor would poll the office for agents who were available to respond at short notice.”

“Secondly, Special Agent Styers said that it appeared odd to have a majority of ATF Agents working on a wiretap investigation who had never worked such a case.”


NEXT: Someone inside DOJ ‘suppressed’ the idea of convening a panel on Styers’ memo



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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #641 on: July 05, 2012, 11:41:53 AM »
Stinks ot high heaven.  Where is this McAllister now?  I would like to ask him a few specific questions!
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #642 on: July 08, 2012, 02:26:19 PM »
This news is  heartening. For the longest time it appeared EH was picking and choosing which border state to offend now we know better, he's attacked them all.  He's attacked them all except his beloved CA which is to be expected.

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Terri Reese Released on Bail!

(25 February) Still Awaiting details, but the judge granted bail last night and family members were on their way to pick her up this morning.  Bail was expected to be $2 million with a bond of $200,000.  Those numbers would mean that family and friends would be stretched to the limit to secure the bond, and this reduces the possibility of finding the money necessary if any of the other Reeses are ever granted bail, but for now the good news is that Terri is out of jail for the first time in almost 6 months.

We'll keep you posted as we learn anything new.

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          (17 February) The investigation into the ATF/DOJ Gunwalker scandal code-named Fast & Furious has passed the one-year mark.  During that time Congressional investigators have put barely a chip in the stone wall established by Eric Holder and his Justice Department.  So far, fewer than 20 percent of the documents requested by Congressional investigators have been produced by the DOJ.  There have been a couple of resignations and a few reassignments, and one Justice Department official has refused to testify on Fifth Amendment grounds, but so far there hasn't been the slightest indication that anyone involved is going to spend a single day in jail.

In contrast, a family in New Mexico has languished in jail for almost six months.  They have been denied bail, their assets have been seized, and threatened with civil forfeiture.  They have yet to be convicted of anything.  

I’ve written previously of Rick Reese, his wife Terri, and their two sons, Ryin and Remington.  They were arrested without incident last August in Las Cruces, New Mexico on charges that they had knowingly sold guns and ammunition to smuggled to Mexican drug cartels.  While I don’t personally know the Reese family, I have spoken with a number of people who do.  The Reeses are by all accounts, well respected and liked within the Deming/Las Cruces area where they had lived for over 20 years, running a successful gun store for the past 17.  Rick Reese had planned to retire from the business and close the store at the end of 2011 in order to make a run for sheriff of Luna County.  Son Ryin was in the process of opening a store of his own in Las Cruces.  The family was asked to come down to the ATF offices to discuss Ryin’s application for a Federal Firearms License – where they were arrested.  Requests for bail have, so far, been denied on the grounds that they are flight risks and a threat to the community.  The government has also announced their intent to move forward with a civil forfeiture hearing to claim virtually everything the family owns as “ill-gotten gains.”

Prosecutors claim that denying bail to the Reeses follows a precedent set in a “similar” recent case in Columbus, New Mexico.  In that case, the mayor and other prominent citizens – all Mexican-Americans with close ties to Mexico – were actively working directly with Mexican drug gangs in a trafficking scheme.  Those defendants were held without bail as flight risks.  The Reeses are accused of, at worst, selling to questionable buyers and have no personal or family connections with Mexico.

Terri Reese recently had a new bail hearing in which prosecutors showed a video of an informant purchasing ammunition.  At the close of the sale Terri tore a mailing label off of a box with a comment about not wanting it to be traced back to them.  The prosecutor insisted that this was proof that Terri knew the ammo was destined for Mexico.  Terri’s lawyer explained that store labels on trash left at informal shooting areas had led to friction with local property owners.  He also pointed out that Terri had called ATF about a woman she suspected might be making straw purchases.  She was told they would look into it and that she should carry on as normal.  The woman turned out to be a government informant.  Sales to that informant constitute the core charges against Terri Reese.  As of press time, we are still awaiting a bail decision from the judge.

Meanwhile Eric Holder again testified before the House Government Reform Committee investigating the Fast & Furious fiasco in which government agents instructed gun dealers to sell thousands of firearms to suspected gun traffickers.  We now know that there was never any plan or attempt made to track or follow the guns and that Washington was actively seeking numbers from those sales to bolster support for a rule requiring dealers to report sales of multiple semi-auto long guns.  Several federal agencies, including the Drug Enforcement Agency and the FBI have admitted knowing about the tactics and being advised by DOJ to leave it alone.  The inter-agency cooperation clearly indicates very high-level involvement in keeping the Gunwalking scheme going, yet no one in a position of authority at the DOJ admits to authorizing the operation which has contributed to hundreds of murders – including that of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.

The callous indifference to human life, Constitutional liberties, and the lying and stonewalling from ATF and the DOJ are indications of serious corruption within those agencies.  It all calls for an immediate and thorough investigation by an independent office with the authority to access every document and every witness.  This investigation must be taken out of the political realm and those responsible brought to justice.

The comparison between the way the Reese family has been treated for supposedly selling some 16 guns, and how federal agents and bureaucrats are being given a pass on “walking” close to 2000, is chilling.  If the Reeses are guilty that fact should be proven in court – before the forfeiture trial – and they should be released on bail in the meantime as guaranteed in the Constitution.  The same goes for those responsible for Fast & Furious.  The truth must be disclosed and everyone must be held accountable for their actions.

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EXCLUSIVE: A Fixed Fight

The case against a New Mexico gun dealer and his family, arrested in August, 2011, may not be what the government has led everyone to believe. Charges in a 30-count indictment for gun smuggling, money laundering and false statements looked bad against Rick Reese, his wife Terri, and sons Ryin and Remington, particularly as they resulted from a 7-month investigation by Homeland Security Investigations and ATF. Seized were their inventory, and through asset forfeiture, their home and properties, money, valuables, vehicles…

Bail was denied—it took Terri until March of this year to secure her release, while her husband and sons remain incarcerated. Of note, the court would not allow the family to be represented by one attorney, saying that would make it difficult for one family member to turn on the others. What this guaranteed was driving up legal costs for an impoverished defense, while the government’s resources were limitless.

But the Reese family did not break or turn on each other. They steadfastly maintained their innocence. And things that didn’t fit began to emerge, such as Rick Reese employing retired and off-duty officers in his store, his large law enforcement clientele, his leasing a shooting range to their agencies, and his plans to run for sheriff as, per a family spokesperson, a “Constitutionalist [who] wanted to restore integrity to the department.”

A hearing was held in June, where attorneys asked for conspiracy charges to be dismissed, and some interesting facts came to light shared by a family friend who took notes. For instance, we learned that the entire investigation began “when Terri Reese contacted the Luna County Sheriff’s Office to report suspicious activity—a person who might be a straw purchaser.”

We learned of incidents where it was a government agent using a phony ID and making false statements on the forms, not the ostensible straw purchaser, and that the FBI approved the sales. We learned the family talking out of earshot—so they could not possibly have been overheard—was used as evidence of “conspiracy.”

We learned that “the government did not produce any evidence of under the table cash sales.” Additionally, “the lead investigator admitted that all [sales tax and income taxes were] paid,” and “the government acknowledged that all guns…were logged in properly, and properly logged out on sale. Except for one, where a couple of numbers were erroneously transposed.”

We learned that “the government’s cooperating witness [a cartel drug smuggler who turned informant] spoke very poor English,” and as the Reese family did not speak Spanish, the government provided an undercover agent to coach the purchases. Further, statements made on tape alleged to have been made by the defendants were actually made by an agent, and the transcriber got the attribution wrong.

At this writing, jury selection is still a few weeks away and what they will ultimately decide is unknown. But it sure looks like these people aren’t getting a fair fight. And that should make us wonder what sort of fight the rest of us could expect were we to ever find ourselves under suspicion.

By David Codrea


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #643 on: July 08, 2012, 08:10:48 PM »
Often I wonder if I still live in "America".

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #644 on: July 09, 2012, 08:14:14 PM »
More stunning incompetence on display!  Sell a bunch of real weapons to really bad actors and then defend yourself first with bean bags?

You cannot make this sh*t up fast enough!

Ms. Terry is going to win an immense settlement check.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/07/white-house-admits-brian-terry-border-agents-fired-beanbags-not-bullets-during-cartel-shootout/

This entire regime is rife with traitorous scum!  And we still pretend to play softball with these thugs?

WTF?   ::whatgives::   ::cussing::   ::angry::   ::gaah::
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #645 on: July 31, 2012, 11:45:37 AM »
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/will-this-new-fast-and-furious-revelation-force-holder-to-resign-take-our-poll/

Is it just me or does it seem like all we did was make Obama & Holder's jobs easier by telling them who the scapegoats are?

If we don't get Holder in manacles then really, what's the fricken point?
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #646 on: July 31, 2012, 11:47:54 AM »

If we don't get Holder in manacles then really, what's the fricken point?

I agree. Some days it seems as if the Republican effort re; F&F is to provide the Kabuki theater necessary to allow Holder to escape accountability.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #647 on: July 31, 2012, 01:16:24 PM »

If we don't get Holder in manacles then really, what's the fricken point?

I agree. Some days it seems as if the Republican effort re; F&F is to provide the Kabuki theater necessary to allow Holder to escape accountability.

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #648 on: July 31, 2012, 09:57:16 PM »

As I heard it, There are three reports and this was the first one.
The next report will be on Holder's subordinates and the third
report will be on Holder.  I think some dominoes are starting to
teeter.  In other words, expectations are far some one of these
lower echelon guys to get a wet leg and cop a plea.  If that
happens; Katy bar the door.



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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #649 on: August 01, 2012, 06:54:14 AM »
Yeah, when was the last time a lower ranking proglodyte ratted out a more senior one?  I can't remember any high profile ones since Watergate...if that is their hope they are blowing smoke up their own skirts!

I swear, there ought to be a Star Chamber, something like CURE from The Destroyer, to deal with this scum!  The political and judicial systems are corrupt and dysfunctional and they are incapable of doing what should be done...
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #651 on: August 12, 2012, 10:46:14 PM »

Told a libber that today and he just laughed and laughed.
Maybe when Ryan starts whipping the House we'll get a
little law and order around here.
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #652 on: August 27, 2012, 06:28:09 PM »

CBS News: The Inspector General (IG) draft report on Fast and Furious heaps blame on the Phoenix-based staff of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) according to those familiar with the document.

Those familiar with the contents say ...


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #653 on: August 27, 2012, 06:41:53 PM »

CBS News: The Inspector General (IG) draft report on Fast and Furious heaps blame on the Phoenix-based staff of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) according to those familiar with the document.

Those familiar with the contents say ...


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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #654 on: August 27, 2012, 07:42:16 PM »
We knew low-level folks would get the blame from Mr.CanDoNoWrong.  Yeah, their day is coming!
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Mexico Arrests Suspect in Fast and Furious Killing
« Reply #655 on: September 08, 2012, 11:55:44 AM »
This is good news, but how in the godsdamn hell are the American people ever, ever, ever supposed to make decisions about political life when the media is so shamelessly and blatantly willing to lie against one side and for another? To say I cannot believe the irresponsibility of this media would be a lie. I can believe it, and I am dismayed.

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Mexico Arrests Suspect in Fast and Furious Killing

Mexican federal police announced Friday that they have arrested a suspect in the killing of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, the slaying at the center of the scandal over the botched U.S. gun-smuggling probe known as Operation Fast and Furious.

Jesus Leonel Sanchez Meza is one of the five men charged with killing Terry in December 2010 during a shootout in Arizona near the Mexico border. One is on trial in Arizona and the other three remain fugitives. Sanchez was arrested Thursday in Sonora state.

Two guns found at the scene were bought by a member of a gun-smuggling ring that was being monitored in the Fast and Furious investigation. Critics have knocked U.S. federal authorities for allowing informants to walk away from Phoenix-area gun shops with weapons, rather than immediately arresting suspects.

In Operation Fast and Furious and at least three earlier probes during the administration of President George W. Bush, agents in Arizona employed a risky tactic called gun-walking — allowing low-level "straw" buyers in gun-trafficking networks to leave with loads of weapons purchased at gun shops. The goal was to track the guns to major weapons traffickers and drug cartels in order to bring cases against kingpins who had long eluded prosecution under the prevailing strategy of arresting low-level purchasers of guns who were suspected of buying them for others.

During Operation Fast and Furious, many of the weapons weren't tracked and wound up at crime scenes in Mexico and the U.S., including the Terry shooting...
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #656 on: September 08, 2012, 12:37:06 PM »
The commenters are universally taking the author to the woodshed. I signed up to post this: "Michael Weissenstein: Once again your readers have a better command of the facts than you do. That we come to become informed and have to educate you is just sad."

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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #657 on: September 08, 2012, 01:34:46 PM »
Unless Mexico has arrested Eric Holder...
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« Reply #658 on: September 08, 2012, 02:28:59 PM »
Unless Mexico has arrested Eric Holder...
If they ask for him, Romney should wave extradition.  ::danceban::
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Re: ATF’s Fast & Furious- Obama’s ‘Weaponsgate’?
« Reply #659 on: September 09, 2012, 05:22:26 PM »
Unless Mexico has arrested Eric Holder...
If they ask for him, Romney should wave extradition.  ::danceban::

That would be most excellent!   ::bustamove::
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