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More Red Flag Tyranny!
« on: October 29, 2019, 01:33:05 PM »
An 84-year-old veteran of the Korean war who also served as a police officer for decades was relieved of his job as a crossing guard and had his guns seized after criticizing a school resource officer (SRO) for allegedly leaving his post during school hours.

Stephen Nichols, who worked as a crossing guard in Tisbury, Massachusetts, was eating at Linda Jean’s restaurant in Oak Bluff and speaking with another patron when a waitress reportedly overheard part of their conversation. As the MV Times reported, Nichols said he was discussing the SRO’s alleged visits to Xtra Mart to get coffee when children came to school in the morning. Nichols said that he told his friend that someone could “shoot up the school” as the SRO was “leaving his post.”

Nichols, who was a Morse Code specialist for the U.S. Army, told the MV Times, “When I was in the U.S. Army, and it wasn’t just me, it’s anybody who’s in the U.S. service, if you are on guard duty for eight hours, you didn’t leave that position. … And I’m just so accustomed to that, that when I see someone who’s supposed to be protecting kids … leave the school unguarded — if you’re on guard duty, you stay there.”

The waitress reported Nichols to the police two days later, prompting Police Chief Mark Saloio and another police officer to relieve Nichols from working as a crossing guard while he was at the job , then going to Nichols’ home and confiscating his firearms license and guns, as the MV Times reported.

Nichols, who said he has been licensed for firearms for over 60 years, told the MV Times that Saloio “told me to hand [the firearm license] over so I took it out of my wallet and handed it to him,” adding that no paperwork was given to him regarding the stripping of his firearms.

Linda Jean’s owner Marc Hanover, who said he’s known Nichols for decades, called the events “absolutely outrageous,” adding that his waitress “overreacted.” Hanover also spoke with Andy Marcus, who was the person Nichols had conversed with, and said Marcus “assured me there was never a threat made.” Marcus called the affair “absurd,” adding that Nichols never threatened the school and that no other employee at the restaurant thought Nichols was threatening the school. Noting that Nichols was a veteran police officer and constable, he concluded, “He loves kids. It’s almost like of all the people … ”

Nichols, a widower for two years who has 11 grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren, concluded, “I would never, ever, ever, harm a child … I just need something to do to get out of the house and I love the kids.

Saloio met with Nichols on Columbus Day to offer his job as a crossing guard back to him. NRAILA reported that an attorney who represents Nichols told the MV Times that Nichols intended to file an appeal to secure the return of his firearms.  NRAILA continued, “Meanwhile, Nichols was informed that his grandson, who manages a Worcester gun shop, is ‘going to be allowed to come down and take the weapons and sell them for me.’ As it stands, Nichols has yet to receive his license or firearms back.”

NRAILA added, “Because there was no proven justification for depriving Nichols of his legally owned firearms, commentators are citing the situation as a cautionary tale against ‘red flag’ firearm seizure laws.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/elderly-vet-has-guns-seized-after-criticizing-school-resource-officer-for-allegedly-leaving-his-post

It's sh*t like this that proves DemoSocialists cannot be trusted...and it proves that even people from the LEO ranks are ignorant!





This is one of the hard lines not crossed...such so-called laws are illegitimate, rife with abuse and chicanery...and absolutely incompatible with God-given rights and Founding Principles so the proper response is "Eff You, Tyrant!" and the only thing heard after that should be echoes of liberty protecting itself!!!
We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: More Red Flag Tyranny!
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2019, 09:26:09 AM »




This is one of the hard lines not crossed...such so-called laws are illegitimate, rife with abuse and chicanery...and absolutely incompatible with God-given rights and Founding Principles so the proper response is "Eff You, Tyrant!" and the only thing heard after that should be echoes of liberty protecting itself!!!

Know who my Sheriff is? Go on, guess.

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Re: More Red Flag Tyranny!
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2019, 12:26:32 PM »
Nice. My sheriff is a tubby PC encrusted affirmative action hire...

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Re: More Red Flag Tyranny!
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 11:12:12 AM »
I reckon mine is between the two...not going out of his way to offend God-given rights and not kissing asses of the usual suspects...Weisshaupt is fortunate being further out from urban hives.
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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 06:21:34 PM »




This is one of the hard lines not crossed...such so-called laws are illegitimate, rife with abuse and chicanery...and absolutely incompatible with God-given rights and Founding Principles so the proper response is "Eff You, Tyrant!" and the only thing heard after that should be echoes of liberty protecting itself!!!

Know who my Sheriff is? Go on, guess.

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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 06:23:46 PM »
  Get a lawyer and go after whoever reported this crap  and then go after the cops.
  I bet that this will make them think before they become judge jury and executioner. 

  Bet there are lawyer that will take it on pro bono.
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 11:08:39 AM »
LONG story made ... short ???... My sister was in a hospital on life support after a car accident.  I was on a motorcycle tour to the west coast when I got the news, so I diverted my route to the hospital.

As I often do, I was traveling with my Glock 27, which rests beside me at night in motel rooms and campsites where some meth head might invade my camp for whatever reason.  I was ALSO carrying some very valuable collectibles in a shoulder bag with the intent to sell them to a collector in California, because I was NOT going to leave them in a hotel room or in my motorcycle luggage.  So I carried them with me at all times, in and out of the hospital.

So one of our lifelong friends came to the hospital, and during the visit, we were sitting outside of the "secure" intensive care section where my sister was behind locked doors in a bed hooked up to  ... everything.

Side note:  She was involved with a very shady business partner who I detested, and he had a RECORD of falsely presenting himself as a cop, a government agent, etc., to bypass security.  I TOLD her he was a con man, but she would not listen.   I took photos of him to the hospital security and told them he was NOT to be allowed near my sister, and he had ZERO authority to make ANY decisions about her care.

He had already visited the first hospital she was taken to by Life Flight, walked in, flashed his (real, but FORMER) police badge and told them he was her Power of Attorney on all matters and HE made all the decisions about her care, and he wanted her taken off of life support immediately to be allowed to die peacefully.  He is now a FELON, although he WAS once a cop, decades ago.

By Divine Intervention alone, my call to the hospital came at the right moment.  I identified myself as her brother and next-of-kin, and demanded that they IGNORE any instructions given to them by this FELON.  So they kept her ON life support until I arrived nine hours later.  My I.D. proved my relationship to my sister, and his FAKE POA was immediately revoked.

My sister was flown to another hospital without his knowledge, and he went on an angry rampage to find her.  Dropping in at every hospital between the California coast and Nevada and Arizona, he would demand to know if she was there, and threaten the hospital with certain government HELL unless they cooperated.  Fortunately, I was faster and smarter than he was, so I remained a step ahead the whole time.

Security told me he HAD come to the hospital where she was.  They told him they could not release ANY information on patients in their care.  I told them he is ARMED AND DANGEROUS, and a FELON, and he wanted to shut off my sister's life support because he (temporarily) had access to her bank accounts and wanted to drain them of several hundred thousand dollars in assets.  I stopped his access to all money through an attorney.  I got the threatening texts, but he did not scare me.  His texts helped me quickly gain the cooperation of local authorities.

I moved like The FLASH, from banks to hospitals to nursing homes via phones and faxes from the hotel lobby computers, staying ahead of him all the way.  She is okay now, and married.

The POINT to this story is, in a waiting room, our mutual friend and I were sitting beneath a door entry security camera.  It had a microphone.  I made a comment ... "This moron carries a gun and a fake badge, and he is dangerous!  He would shoot ME, my sister and everyone in this place if he got the chance!  I also have a loaded gun with me, but I would never bring it into the hospital because I obey the rules, and I don't want to risk losing my CCW...

So there we sat in the cafeteria a brief while later, when an ARMY of hospital security guards walked in and surrounded us.  These guys were clad in what I refer to as "Darth Vader costumes" ... black paneled armor, helmets with visors, etc., ARs, all sorts of commando toys velcro attached to their vests ... I just started laughing!

"Sir, we would like to have a word with you immediately. "  My friend was in full panic.  I told him, "Relax.  I know what this is about."  Then I said, "Can we go somewhere else to discuss this?"  They would NOT let me move or get up.

"We have reason to believe you are carrying a loaded firearm and possible explosives on your person or in your bag.  Please keep your hands where we can see them."

I said, "Guys, I have been walking in and out of this hospital for over a month now.  My sister is in ICU.  I ALWAYS carry this bag, because of the value of it’s confidential contents which cannot be left unattended.  I KNOW that some well-meaning employee overheard our earlier conversation under the security camera about the fact that I brought a gun with me on this trip, but that moron ONLY told you they heard ‘I have a gun!’  He or she panicked, and there is no cause for alarm.  If you BOTHER to listen to the ENITE conversation of the recording, you will understand…"

They wanted to search my bag, but I refused, saying, "I will allow the HEAD of your security department to learn the contents of this bag IN HIS PRIVATE OFFICE , but I am not about to spill it out onto a cafeteria table in front of all of these people!  YOU cannot guarantee my safety OFF of the hospital grounds!"

They held us there until someone in the office reviewed the FULL conversation they recorded.  Then they realized I DID NOT and WOULD NOT bring a gun into the hospital.  They called my Sheriff to check on my CCW. They apologized, and quietly exited the cafeteria.  I did not have to reveal the bag’s contents.  Suffice it to say, the value exceeded $60,000.00

Red Flag Laws are about giving power to gun grabbing hoplophobes who FEAR GUNS, allowing them to have the guns taken away for no other reason than THEY are afraid of them.  These are BAD LAWS that MUST be struck down. 

If anyone shows up at my door under "Red Flag Laws" nothing will happen until my attorney and I have had a good long talk!
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Re: More Red Flag Tyranny!
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2019, 11:41:00 AM »
Yeah...no matter how benign an encounter ends...butthurt idiots and power-mad jackasses will be sure to have you added to a watch list...just because they can...I know that for a fact.

But, good on you for looking out for your sister and drawing an impassable line for people used to having their commands followed blindly.   ::USA::
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2019, 01:18:14 PM »
I wasn't going to show them the contents, because I could be mugged in the parking structure after that, and what would I say?  "A masked man beat me and took my bag, and I BELIEVE it was one of your security guards!"??

I never told them it was valuable.  I only told them it was confidential.

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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 02:30:16 PM »
Good on you, KC, for protecting your sister and standing up for your rights.

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2019, 07:31:36 PM »
I don't know my Sheriff, a situation I really need to rectify.

I know who my sheriff is, and have talked to him as his granddaughter and mine play baseball against each other occasionally. But never been formally introduced.
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2019, 02:28:33 PM »
Couldn't read it.  I don't "sign in" to places that demand it ........ or anywhere else but here, for that matter.
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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2019, 02:50:45 PM »
Weird, I go right to the story

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« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2019, 04:29:01 PM »
Weird, I go right to the story

What I am allowed to see (without signing in) is a couple of paragraphs and then a notice advising that if I want the rest of the story I must buy an EVIP membership.  PJMedia has begun doing the same thing.

Feh.
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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2019, 04:39:55 PM »
http://badblue.bitnamiapp.com/trendr1.htm
Try here, this is where I saw it. Click on last 24 hours and scroll down, it's on the left side about 3/4 down. I was never asked to sign in?

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2019, 07:30:05 PM »
http://badblue.bitnamiapp.com/trendr1.htm
Try here, this is where I saw it. Click on last 24 hours and scroll down, it's on the left side about 3/4 down. I was never asked to sign in?
Okay, I did it and I got the same result.  Sign up -- and pay -- for EVIP to read the rest of the piece.

I appreciate your efforts, Paul.  For whatever reason, that's what I'm getting from that site.
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