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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2020, 08:16:11 AM »
Remember this?

https://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2016/03/29/is-trump-right-about-nato-n2140070

One of the better articles ever penned by Pat...and a reminder of who blew it...GHWB by betraying the Reagan Revolution cannot be understated and I think most people would agree that even if GHWB had not stabbed us in the back in his first term he definitely would have in his second...as it is the NATO issue was dumped onto the lap of a geopolitical novice more interested in being an attention-seeking Diva by day and a lecherous fiend at night...leaving to his handlers to turn NATO into another entity to corrupt and manipulate.  By the time GWB came along it didn't matter...the template was in place and the uni-party pukes held sway...and the illegitimate successor turned all he touched into sh!t and weaponized uni-party statists on a scale never before dreamed of...

Time to start pulling plugs...and removing crutches with as much force as was used to make people accept them.
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2020, 07:56:43 PM »
  Were supposed to help not foot the bill for every other country in  Europe.
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2020, 07:33:58 PM »


I found this explaining the situation with Greece and Turkey. In summary, a real CF.
https://youtu.be/kCpL9JATq9I
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2020, 08:38:35 PM »


I found this explaining the situation with Greece and Turkey. In summary, a real CF.
https://youtu.be/kCpL9JATq9I


  This is just the new problem between Greece and the Turks this time the Greeks are bringing in the neighbors the remember what happened the last time they went at it.  This is one we want no part of let the EU deal with it.
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2020, 08:10:07 AM »
Turkey sucks...the central EU powers are rotten to the core...we need to sh!tcan NATO and find new international partners we can rely on...individually or whatever doesn't matter...but the old crap needs to be discarded...
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2020, 04:25:03 PM »
Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France  has been fighting Turkey over Greece.

https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2020, 12:24:25 PM »
Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France  has been fighting Turkey over Greece.

https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)

Why could it possibly matter to us?
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2020, 08:13:00 PM »
Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France  has been fighting Turkey over Greece.

https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)

Why could it possibly matter to us?


 It doesn't
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2020, 09:45:31 PM »
Turkey had armed all these terrorists to take down Assad. Now Turkey is sending them to fight in Libya and elsewhere.
The Duran said that Russia has a treaty to come to the aid of Armenia. I think France  has been fighting Turkey over Greece.

https://stream.org/turkey-is-killing-armenians-again-and-why-it-matters-to-us/
Turkey Is Killing Armenians. Again. (And Why It Matters to US)
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Why could it possibly matter to us?

 It doesn't.
I totally agree.
I do not GAF.
The military industrial complex will try to make this all about being soft on Putin if Russia sides with (Christian) Armenia against (Muslim,NATO) Turkey. Remember the hysteria when Trump proposed pulling out of Syria.

Also, some Russians may have poisoned each other. Who cares?
I know most here do not like Putin but I do. He saved Syria from being over run by US armed ISIS and AQ.
If you live long enough you see everything. The cavalry riding over the hill to save civilization are Russians.
F*ck me.
You can pray in Russian public schools but not in the US.Double f*ck me.

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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2020, 08:19:17 AM »
I see no "calvary", no nation-state or pan-whatever outfit being civilizations savior...in the end we are the savior or we are dead...it's that simple.  For a long time...until the corrupt DeepState-socialist cabal contaminated everything America had been that global savior...and got the middle finger for it every time...we should do what Rome could not...downsize the empire, abandon the ignorant mean and stupid to die in their own stinking mess...if they cry to us for help remind them the finger they gave us is returned in kind...

And in a related note...

http://itsaboutliberty.com/index.php/topic,15175.new.html#new
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2020, 09:31:11 AM »
Not long ago the Turdkeys held naval exercises with France and Egypt...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/major-escalation-turkey-renews-gas-exploration-greece-vows-military-escort

...they still on Turdkey's side? 

It all needs to go!
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2020, 08:06:18 AM »
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2020, 03:57:36 PM »

I can't remember if I posted this before. Another reason NATO need not exist.
Crimea held a referendum in which about 85% of voters turned out, who voted 97% to rejoin Russia.
The US has sanctioned Russia for this "invasion."

The video below was taken after Crimea rejoined Russia.

https://youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2020, 04:19:33 PM »
Yeah...swell.

Which is why I argue to use The Putin Doctrine on Cuba...ask the Cuban people if they would like to be a territory of America or remain under communist oppression...the answer would be overwhelming...which is why the Cuban government would kill anybody trying to conduct a fair poll or for participating in a fair poll...

So, I say invade those bastards, kill every communist you find...liberate Cuba for the Cuban people...I bet that would meet with monumental approval by the oppressed...

Git-R-Done!
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2020, 04:43:38 PM »

Turkey had a problem. They had imported and armed lots of Jihadis and sent them into Syria to fight Assad.

What to do with them? They do no want these rabid animals in Turkey. So they are disposing of them to get killed all over the place including likely Armenia and Libya for sure.
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2020, 09:18:02 AM »
DeepState driven...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-expands-nord-stream-2-sanctions-germany-vows-pipeline-completion-not-if-when

Hopefully, after the election...this ends, NATO ends and Europe is off our teat FOREVER...and we can kick those UN assholes out!
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2020, 06:03:43 PM »

Yes the NS2 pipeline will make Germany depend more on Russian gas. Who cares?
The US is looking more and more like a big bully. The Germans want cheap gas.  The Russians want German money.
I thought trade made war less likely.

To make the US look even worse, Germany has agreed to accept some US LNG to buy off the US objections.
Now the Russians will get paid to lay the pipe, not the Swiss company. Now the US wants to sanction companies servicing the ships or pipeline. More work for Russians?

The US is a superpower with ADD. We will walk away from Ukraine after we destabilized their country with the coup.
Ukrainians will wish they had jumped in bed with Russia before this is all over.

The Duran guys have been writing and talking about Ukraine and even the Bidens for at least 5 years now.
They estimate that at least $40 billion of US, IMF, and world bank money went to Ukraine but much went back to US and  EU crooks via money laundering routes. Ukraine is worse off than before the US 'helped' them.

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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2020, 06:08:14 PM »
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“From the US point of view, Nord Stream 2 endangers Europe because it makes it dependent on Russian gas and endangers Ukraine - which in my opinion worries many Germans,” Pompeo said weeks ago.

So why not let the EU and Germany worry about this?
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2021, 09:10:47 AM »
Folks, it might matter now...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/exit-nato-turks-hold-anti-american-protest-outside-incirlik-base-over-armenian

Come on, take the bait...set the hook...

Could be one way out of this stupid useless waste of time!
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Re: Last straw for NATO to exist?
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2021, 08:45:51 AM »


It's time....

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/merkel-flips-bidens-protest-buy-putins-gas

...end NATO, cut Europe loose...

...but JoeFraud cannot do that, his DeepState masters will not allow it...they would rather set the world on fire than to yield anything...

They believe they can live on ashes...
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