Topic: Common Core Has Failed. Now What?

[richb]

An interesting piece from the NR.   As most national and state testing has been dumped this spring due to the "virus",  maybe more people will question why we need to bother with this nonsense altogether. 


https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/common-core-has-failed-now-what/

But it will surprise few here how badly CC has failed.   But getting rid of it will continue to be hard........   

Our society is so stuck on failure now a days.

[patentlymn]

I thought that the CC material was snuck into schools anyway, no matter what they call it.
Many private schools and Catholic schools have been polluted also.

I read the article I see what you meant. CC has failed to deliver better test results but was implemented.


BTW fed regs allowed some schools and govt to see records for all public school students including behavior records.
Under Obama the regs were changed to allow test makers, educational SW makers, and text book makers  to see the data also. Student names were not included but may not have been too hard to figure out.

[Pandora]

Blah, blah, blah -- government schools.  Your kids are your friggin responsibility to teach, so teach them.  AT HOME.

[Libertas]

What Pan said!

Oh, and as for CC..it's not dead...nothing communist is allowed to die unless ordered to do so by the Politburo...the propaganmdists will merely deem something really wasn't true socialism and give it another go under the existing name or by assigning a new name to it.

Remember, Communism cannot be defeated...unless you kill it.

[John Florida]

  Homeschooling should be done when it can be done but a lot of people have to have 2 incomes and that's where it goes off the rails.  Everybody want nothing but the best for their kids but not always possible.

[Pandora]

  Homeschooling should be done when it can be done but a lot of people have to have 2 incomes and that's where it goes off the rails.  Everybody want nothing but the best for their kids but not always possible.

Yeah?  I'll tell you what:  there are ways to do it where there is always one or another parent home with the kid/s and homeschooling.  One works days, the other works nights, or go live with the grandparents and everybody helps everybody.  There are ways.

Trouble is, today, sacrifices have to be made and people don't wanna do that anymore, "it's too haaarrddd!".

IMO, anyone who turns his or her children over to government schools is guilty of child neglect and abuse.

[AlanS]

IMO, anyone who turns his or her children over to government schools is guilty of child neglect and abuse.

[Libertas]

Yeah, and it grows more abusive with each passing day...

My sister's last boy (youngest special needs boy a different case) is done with public school this year and even though its a good school in a good area it is not immune from random bouts of stupidity...he may be getting out at the right time.

The great nephews and nieces though...not that lucky...

If you do have to use public, better be a fully engaged parent to protecting your kids from BS or the child is well and truly screwed...and it would be your fault.  And the number of fully contaminated schools grows exponentially so soon there will be none left that are even manageable...whole areas are write off's now.

Be hard to end without a) ending unions, b) banning bogus curriculum c) ending anti-Bill of Rights despotism and d) firing every piece of low-life commie deadwood in schools, school districts and boards.

[John Florida]

  Homeschooling should be done when it can be done but a lot of people have to have 2 incomes and that's where it goes off the rails.  Everybody want nothing but the best for their kids but not always possible.

Yeah?  I'll tell you what:  there are ways to do it where there is always one or another parent home with the kid/s and homeschooling.  One works days, the other works nights, or go live with the grandparents and everybody helps everybody.  There are ways.

Trouble is, today, sacrifices have to be made and people don't wanna do that anymore, "it's too haaarrddd!".

IMO, anyone who turns his or her children over to government schools is guilty of child neglect and abuse.

  And we all have opinions send them to religious schools send them to private schools. No 30 year old is moving in with grandma or parents to homeschool. That would put grandparents and or parents in a position to support them.

[Pandora]

  Homeschooling should be done when it can be done but a lot of people have to have 2 incomes and that's where it goes off the rails.  Everybody want nothing but the best for their kids but not always possible.

Yeah?  I'll tell you what:  there are ways to do it where there is always one or another parent home with the kid/s and homeschooling.  One works days, the other works nights, or go live with the grandparents and everybody helps everybody.  There are ways.

Trouble is, today, sacrifices have to be made and people don't wanna do that anymore, "it's too haaarrddd!".

IMO, anyone who turns his or her children over to government schools is guilty of child neglect and abuse.

  And we all have opinions send them to religious schools send them to private schools. No 30 year old is moving in with grandma or parents to homeschool. That would put grandparents and or parents in a position to support them.

Families used to live together just like that, and no, it didn't and wouldn't mean the grands or the parents would have to support them.  Homeschooling doesn't mean the parent/s can't work a job.  What's the matter with you?

F'get it; you got your mind made up so any further back and forth is pointless.

[John Florida]

  Somebody has to be with the kids during the day.  One paycheck has to stop how do you teach all day and work at night? My kids are grown and gone would I take them in.... hell yes but not everybody can afford to do it or want to.

[Pandora]

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[patentlymn]

  Homeschooling should be done when it can be done but a lot of people have to have 2 incomes and that's where it goes off the rails.  Everybody want nothing but the best for their kids but not always possible.

Yeah?  I'll tell you what:  there are ways to do it where there is always one or another parent home with the kid/s and homeschooling.  One works days, the other works nights, or go live with the grandparents and everybody helps everybody.  There are ways.

Trouble is, today, sacrifices have to be made and people don't wanna do that anymore, "it's too haaarrddd!".

IMO, anyone who turns his or her children over to government schools is guilty of child neglect and abuse.

  And we all have opinions send them to religious schools send them to private schools. No 30 year old is moving in with grandma or parents to homeschool. That would put grandparents and or parents in a position to support them.

Families used to live together just like that, and no, it didn't and wouldn't mean the grands or the parents would have to support them.  Homeschooling doesn't mean the parent/s can't work a job.  What's the matter with you?

F'get it; you got your mind made up so any further back and forth is pointless.

Having the grandparents move in is expected in China. Usually the wife's parents.