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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2011, 11:03:55 PM »


Many middle aged and elderly women still poll for Romney. 

As I've made mention before my mother is for Romney -- there's no talking her out of it -- my 20-something daughter has decided it's because he looks good in a suit!
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2011, 11:05:55 PM »


Many middle aged and elderly women still poll for Romney. 

As I've made mention before my mother is for Romney -- there's no talking her out of it -- my 20-something daughter has decided it's because he looks good in a suit!

Yah, that's what they're saying; what they're thinking is "I bet he looks good nekkid".

Feh.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2011, 11:08:44 PM »
In the comments, Whiskey quoted a poll showing an 11 point difference in support for Sarah Palin between Republican men and Republican women.  That is huge.

Despite my wholehearted support for Palin, I'm left wondering whether the 19th Amendment was a big mistake.  Maybe only married women should be allowed to vote.   Single women seem to be perfectly fine with allowing the government to protect and care for them, using tax money forcibly extracted from men.

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maybe only property owners should be allowed to vote
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 11:12:30 PM »


Many middle aged and elderly women still poll for Romney. 

As I've made mention before my mother is for Romney -- there's no talking her out of it -- my 20-something daughter has decided it's because he looks good in a suit!

Yah, that's what they're saying; what they're thinking is "I bet he looks good nekkid".

Feh.

ah, not my mother---and to be clear my 20-something daughter is a Palin/Bachmann supporter.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2011, 11:13:59 PM »
In the comments, Whiskey quoted a poll showing an 11 point difference in support for Sarah Palin between Republican men and Republican women.  That is huge.

Despite my wholehearted support for Palin, I'm left wondering whether the 19th Amendment was a big mistake.  Maybe only married women should be allowed to vote.   Single women seem to be perfectly fine with allowing the government to protect and care for them, using tax money forcibly extracted from men.

hahahaha


maybe only property owners should be allowed to vote



I'd agree with that.  The universal franchise is destroying us.  The Founders knew that pure democracy was not a stable form of government, and now that's exactly what we have.  We simply cannot tolerate parasites having the ability to vote themselves largesse from productive citizens.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2011, 11:22:31 PM »
People on welfare, food stamps, AFDC, or section 8 housing should not be allowed to vote.

The bottom line should be:  If you're eligible for government benefits, then you have to choose between receiving them or voting.

Likewise people on Social Security and Medicare who have received benefits greater than what they paid in during their working lives.  Once you're past that point, then you have to choose between receiving further benefits or voting.

The welfare state needs to go away, ASAP.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2011, 12:01:48 AM »
If you're a government dependent you can't vote
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2011, 12:03:12 AM »
As I see it, the situation is this:

1.  Women have an innate biological need to be taken care of.

2.  Men have an innate biological need to take care of women.

3.  1 and 2 lead to the nuclear family, which is the fundamental unit of civilization.

4.  The goal of Communism is to destroy the family and make everybody dependent on the State.

5.  The feminist movement was, purely and simply, Communism designed to appeal to women.  Nothing more and nothing less.

6.  The feminist movement taught women that they didn't need men to care for them.

7.  The feminist movement taught women that they had a right to have their needs met by the State.

8.  Someone has to pay for #7, and that would be single men, who are forced to subsidize the lifestyles of single women through their taxes, without any benefit to themselves.

9.  Single women have no problem whatsoever with #8, and continue to vote for politicians who promise to keep that system going.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2011, 01:00:52 AM »
I have a (slight) quibble with your number 6: 
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6.  The feminist movement taught women that they didn't need men to care for them.

I would say, 6.  The feminist movement taught women that men were disposable, dispensable and innately despicable.

As a result, they have few qualms about taking our money, our property, and our life-blood.

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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2011, 09:56:23 AM »
In the comments, Whiskey quoted a poll showing an 11 point difference in support for Sarah Palin between Republican men and Republican women.  That is huge.

Despite my wholehearted support for Palin, I'm left wondering whether the 19th Amendment was a big mistake.  Maybe only married women should be allowed to vote.   Single women seem to be perfectly fine with allowing the government to protect and care for them, using tax money forcibly extracted from men.

hahahaha


maybe only property owners should be allowed to vote



I'd agree with that.  The universal franchise is destroying us.  The Founders knew that pure democracy was not a stable form of government, and now that's exactly what we have.  We simply cannot tolerate parasites having the ability to vote themselves largesse from productive citizens.


They also knew that women were emotional creatures that were prone to large mood swings even then. Women had a great deal of responsibility when it came to the domestic front as keeping the family healthy, clothes and house clean was more than enough to do rather than concern themselves with politics. It wasn't that they didn't like or love them, it's that they new logic would need to be the basis for voting as opposed to emotion if we were to keep the Republic constitutionally bound.

Property owners are always the targets of class warfare, always have the most to lose if a mob gets the voting franchise, therefore owners of property stand the most to lose via unfare taxes.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2011, 07:32:01 PM »
Feminism hasn't been good for men either.  I know too many men who are basically slackers because they don't have to step up and be men.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2011, 07:34:08 PM »
Feminism hasn't been good for men either.  I know too many men who are basically slackers because they don't have to step up and be men.

Agreed.

There's the better part of an entire generation that basically treat females like crap.

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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2011, 09:13:03 PM »
Feminism hasn't been good for men either.  I know too many men who are basically slackers because they don't have to step up and be men.

Agreed.

There's the better part of an entire generation that basically treat females like crap.

I suspect it's because they've inculcated from the "feminists" within their scoping area, from a young age, the message that they are worthless and expendable.  Self defense.

People generally live up, or down, to expectations.

What woman in good conscience can expound this stuff around her young son/s and not expect it to affect his worldview?

"Men are scum".  "Yes, mommy".
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2011, 09:19:05 PM »
::falldownshocked::

I hope the ladies here understand what I am about to say, I do not mean this as a broad condemnation of the fairer sex, but if many women are hung up on such childish notions, frustration leads me to question if such women should be allowed to vote!

As a disclaimer I could also lump in gays and metrosexuals who also seem to favor emotion-based voting vs employing critical thinking!

 ::unknowncomic::



So.... what you're saying is that women, gays and metrosexuals should be lumped together into the emotion-based/lack of critical thinking category?
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2011, 09:33:11 PM »


Many middle aged and elderly women still poll for Romney.  

 

As I've made mention before my mother is for Romney -- there's no talking her out of it -- my 20-something daughter has decided it's because he looks good in a suit!

Yah, that's what they're saying; what they're thinking is "I bet he looks good nekkid".

Feh.

ah, not my mother---and to be clear my 20-something daughter is a Palin/Bachmann supporter.

She can see herself going out to and elegant restaurant for dinner with him.  Her imagination wouldn't favor that with the others. 

Ask the elderly ladies who they would rather dine with.


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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2011, 09:37:07 PM »
*sigh*  I was jesting.  Mostly.

They ARE those .........
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2011, 10:24:34 PM »
Feminism hasn't been good for men either.  I know too many men who are basically slackers because they don't have to step up and be men.

Agreed.

There's the better part of an entire generation that basically treat females like crap.

I suspect it's because they've inculcated from the "feminists" within their scoping area, from a young age, the message that they are worthless and expendable.  Self defense.

People generally live up, or down, to expectations.

What woman in good conscience can expound this stuff around her young son/s and not expect it to affect his worldview?

"Men are scum".  "Yes, mommy".

For some I s'pose but I know men who while they have a job don't seem to buy into what my grandfather did and that's work more than one job to feed the family.  Their attitude is why should I? The wife can work too.  They got the school raising their kids so why does mom need to stay home?

I know one woman who after a couple years at home with the baby (this was 10 years ago) her husband told her she had to go back to work.  He didn't want to get a second job--he wasn't doing it all while she sat at home. Another fella cut back his hours when his wife got a part time job. A lot don't want to miss the economic windfall of having mom work. (I know in some cases both have to work--but it's the attitude of not considering another way that I'm talking about).

Human nature being what it is--if given the opportunity to do less, most do-- and push the burden to someone else.
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2011, 12:19:18 AM »
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Re: Conservative women not supporting conservative women
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2011, 07:32:49 AM »
::falldownshocked::

I hope the ladies here understand what I am about to say, I do not mean this as a broad condemnation of the fairer sex, but if many women are hung up on such childish notions, frustration leads me to question if such women should be allowed to vote!

As a disclaimer I could also lump in gays and metrosexuals who also seem to favor emotion-based voting vs employing critical thinking!

 ::unknowncomic::



So.... what you're saying is that women, gays and metrosexuals should be lumped together into the emotion-based/lack of critical thinking category?
 ::stirpot::

Did I use too big a brush or not big enough?
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