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EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« on: June 10, 2011, 07:36:11 AM »
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/677-e2-wire/165651-aep-epa-regs-will-cost-billions-and-result-in-five-closed-plants

“This is a perfect example of the EPA implementing rules and regulations without considering the devastating impact they may have on local economies and jobs,” Capito said.

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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2011, 07:49:52 AM »
They considered the impact well, Mr. Capito.
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2011, 01:54:12 PM »
Two different articles on this and I still don't know WHERE!  You'd think somebody would have the brains to figure people would want to know who/where will be adversely affected by this.

And, yep; this is to what I was referring in the "living without AC" thread.

I'd say this much power generation cannot be eliminated without causing severe "lifestyle" disruptions.
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2011, 02:17:41 PM »
Stymie told the coal fired power plants back in early '08 that he was going to make life and profitability hell for them . No surprises here ! His head is as empty as his rhetoric and his heart is as black as his ass !

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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2011, 02:23:17 PM »
Stymie told the coal fired power plants back in early '08 that he was going to make life and profitability hell for them . No surprises here ! His head is as empty as his rhetoric and his heart is as black as his ass !

I remember that well!  The environazis thought that was a great thing!

Let's see what they "think" when the rolling blackouts start at their houses.
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2011, 03:37:25 PM »
This also, I believe, qualifies the voters of West Virginia for "Dumbasses of the Year" award. Two Democrat Senators, including one in the 2010 midterms that went so heavily Republican elsewhere.

If it didn't portend such trouble for the rest of us as well, I'd be relishing the damage they brought onto themselves and such an important part of their economy. Moe-rons.
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2011, 05:07:04 PM »

...and they make jokes about Arkansas.


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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2011, 05:35:00 PM »
This also, I believe, qualifies the voters of West Virginia for "Dumbasses of the Year" award. Two Democrat Senators, including one in the 2010 midterms that went so heavily Republican elsewhere.

If it didn't portend such trouble for the rest of us as well, I'd be relishing the damage they brought onto themselves and such an important part of their economy. Moe-rons.

It's W.Va.?  Where'd you see that?
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 05:38:22 PM »
Not the plant closures, but the Administration's openly declared war on coal.
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 05:45:01 PM »
Not the plant closures, but the Administration's openly declared war on coal.

Oop.  Duh.

So, I ask again:  anyone have any idea what state/area will be affected by this?
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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2011, 06:42:39 PM »
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http://timeswv.com/westvirginia/x1478023391/Coal-industry-sees-lower-demand
It follows April’s announcement by the Tennessee Valley Authority that it would shut down about 16 percent of its coal-fired generating capacity to settle air quality lawsuits with several states.
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“Clearly a large volume of retirements has an effect,” said Ray Dotter, a spokesman for Valley Forge, Pa.-based PJM Intercon-nection, the group that oversees the electric grid for a 13-state region
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warned Thursday that it would have to shut down five plants and reduce operations at six others, at a cost of 600 jobs, to comply with the proposed EPA rules.
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EP said it would have to close plants in Ohio, West Virginia and Virginia by the end of 2014 and retire generating units at plants in five states as soon as by the end of 2012.
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The plants AEP proposes to cut in West Virginia and Virginia bought more than 2 million tons of coal in 2010, according to state Public Service Commission records. Nationally, mines produce about 1 billion tons of coal annually and the vast majority of it is used to generate about half the nation's electricity.
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It adds up to more than 5.  If the moderate middle in the affected states find out they are about to lose their AC it ain't going to happen at all.
And they will vote for the Republican candidate.

The TVA announcement and the AEP report probably has information that needs to be shared with the respective states residents.


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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2011, 06:49:31 PM »
  Half way down:

http://www.aep.com/newsroom/newsreleases/?id=1697

AEP’s current plan for compliance with the rules as proposed includes permanently retiring the following coal-fueled power plants:

Glen Lyn Plant, Glen Lyn, Va. – 335 MW (retired by Dec. 31, 2014);
Kammer Plant, Moundsville, W.Va. – 630 MW (retired by Dec. 31, 2014);
Kanawha River Plant, Glasgow, W.Va. – 400 MW (retired by Dec. 31, 2014);
Phillip Sporn Plant, New Haven, W.Va. – 1,050 MW (450 MW expected to retire in 2011, 600 MW retired by Dec. 31, 2014); and
Picway Plant, Lockbourne, Ohio – 100 MW (retired by Dec. 31, 2014).
AEP would retire generating units at the following locations but continue operating some generation at the sites:

Big Sandy Plant, Louisa, Ky. – Units 1 and 2 (1,078 MW) retired by Dec. 31, 2014;
Big Sandy Unit 1 would be rebuilt as a 640-MW natural gas plant by Dec. 31, 2015;
Clinch River Plant, Cleveland, Va. – Unit 3 (235 MW) retired by Dec. 31, 2014; Units 1 and 2 (470 MW total) would be refueled with natural gas with a capacity of 422 MW by Dec. 31, 2014;
Conesville Plant, Conesville, Ohio – Unit 3 (165 MW) retired by Dec. 31, 2012; Units 5 and 6 (800 MW total) would continue operating with retrofits;
Muskingum River Plant, Beverly, Ohio – Units 1-4 (840 MW) retired by Dec. 31, 2014; Muskingum River Unit 5 (600 MW) may be refueled with natural gas with a capacity of 510 MW by Dec. 31, 2014, depending on regulatory treatment in Ohio;
Tanners Creek Plant, Lawrenceburg, Ind. – Units 1, 2 and 3 (495 MW) retired by Dec. 31, 2014; Unit 4 (500 MW) would continue to operate with retrofits; and




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Re: EPA Regs Force AEP to Close 5 Coal Plants
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2011, 06:50:21 PM »
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