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Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« on: January 05, 2022, 12:00:28 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-protesters-storm-torch-government-buildings-shots-fired-after-cabinet

You see officials and security running away a la Marxists during the BLM/Antifa Summer Of Rage...no telling how far something like this in a place like that can go...

Surprised a plea to Moscow hasn't seen an infusion of troops...but I guess they're all pinned down in Eastern Ukraine...

Is the CIA effective enough to have encouraged this for this reason?
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2022, 03:05:23 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-protesters-storm-torch-government-buildings-shots-fired-after-cabinet

You see officials and security running away a la Marxists during the BLM/Antifa Summer Of Rage...no telling how far something like this in a place like that can go...

Surprised a plea to Moscow hasn't seen an infusion of troops...but I guess they're all pinned down in Eastern Ukraine...

Is the CIA effective enough to have encouraged this for this reason?

Thanks for the post.
I wonder how the MSM will report this. They will paint one said as good and the other evil. Maybe a 'color revolution.'
The reporting on Libya and Syria made me cynical to the extreme. I doubt the Russians want any part of that fiasco.

BTW the price of LNG went up which was said to trigger the protests. I was watching some travel documentary by some video blogger. They fuel their vehicles with LNG because that is what they have apparently. Everyone gets out except the person fueling the vehicle and only one vehicle fueled at a time. Sounds dangerous.
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 05:00:01 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-protesters-storm-torch-government-buildings-shots-fired-after-cabinet

You see officials and security running away a la Marxists during the BLM/Antifa Summer Of Rage...no telling how far something like this in a place like that can go...

Surprised a plea to Moscow hasn't seen an infusion of troops...but I guess they're all pinned down in Eastern Ukraine...

Is the CIA effective enough to have encouraged this for this reason?

Thanks for the post.
I wonder ow the MSM will report this. They will paint one said as god and the other evil. Maybe a 'color revolution.'
The reporting on Libya and Syria made me cynical to the extreme. I doubt the Russians want any part of that fiasco.

BTW the price of LNG went up which was said to trigger the protests. I was watching some travel documentary by some video blogger. They fuel their vehicles with LNG because that is what they have apparently. Everyone gets out except the person fueling the vehicle and only one vehicle fueled at a time. Sounds dangerous.

Well, be a shame if the uranium got into the wrong hands...then again probably already has...
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2022, 12:40:41 PM »
Uranium, oil (ironically), deals with Biden's & Clinton's, large crypto-mining nation (many exiles from Chi-Com crackdowns), demoscats issuing orders not to side with the protestors in public...

See where I am going here?

And, as predicted...viola, Vlad to rescue!

A Russia-led military alliance said Thursday that it will dispatch peacekeeping forces to Kazakhstan after the country’s president asked for help in controlling protests that escalated into violence, including the seizure and setting afire of government buildings.

Protesters in Kazakhstan’s largest city stormed the presidential residence and the mayor’s office Wednesday and set both on fire, according to news reports, as demonstrations sparked by a rise in fuel prices escalated sharply in the Central Asian nation.

Police reportedly fired on some protesters at the residence in Almaty before fleeing. They have clashed repeatedly with demonstrators in recent days, deploying water cannons in the freezing weather, and firing tear gas and concussion grenades.

The Kazakh Interior Ministry said eight police officers and national guard members were killed in the unrest and more than 300 were injured. No figures on civilian casualties were released.

President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev appealed to the Collective Security Treaty Organization, a Moscow-based alliance of six former Soviet countries, for assistance. Hours later, the CSTO’s council approved sending an unspecified number of peacekeepers, said Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan, the council’s chairman.

Tokayev earlier vowed to take harsh measures to quell the unrest and declared a two-week state of emergency for the whole country, expanding one that had been announced for both the capital of Nur-Sultan and the largest city of Almaty that imposed an overnight curfew and restricted movement into and around the urban areas.

The government resigned in response over the unrest. Kazakh news sites became inaccessible late in the day, and the global watchdog organization Netblocks said the country was experiencing a pervasive internet blackout. The Russian news agency Tass reported that internet access was restored in Almaty by early Thursday.

Although the protests began over a near-doubling of prices for a type of liquefied petroleum gas that is widely used as vehicle fuel, their size and rapid spread suggested they reflect wider discontent in the country that has been under the rule of the same party since gaining independence from the Soviet Union in 1991.

Tokayev claimed the unrest was led by “terrorist bands” that had received help from unspecified other countries. He also said rioters had seized five airliners in an assault on Almaty’s airport, but the deputy mayor later said the airport had been cleared of marauders and was working normally.


https://apnews.com/article/business-kazakhstan-almaty-9da42330ca51c36fe9fd88f9ef35ff4e


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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2022, 12:57:35 PM »

Short video clip
https://youtu.be/Mf_E1gakoAU
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2022, 01:12:43 PM »


https://youtu.be/m0fmikoObf8
Kazakhstan: Russian troops arrive to put down uprising • FRANCE 24 English
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2022, 02:56:51 PM »
The Duran talking about this. Said someone tried to over throw the govt but failed badly.
But who? US? The West?
DC commentators are pissed.
The govt will now be closer to Russia than before.
The Chinese also have a big interest in this country and also back the govt.
The country has a very long border with Russia.
The country is key part of some Eurasian economic union. Maybe US wanted to disrupt that?

Major oil gas, and FOOD producer.

https://youtu.be/fGhKqyqRcOM
Kazakhstan crisis, major prize on the Geopolitical Chessboard [Part 1]


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Some of the agitators in the protests have been recognized as Syrians of the jihadi strain that were sent to Azerbaijan and took part in the war with Armenia . That would explain why three policemen were beheaded in the riots
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2022, 10:00:38 AM »
This Escobar is a shameless unapologetic Russophile...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-maidan-almaty-oh-yeah-its-complicated

...and I discount a lot of what he says as boilerplate Putinish bloviating...and I have zero doubt the high-ranking intel sources are loyal Putin SVR servants...but for the sake of argument say the MI6 involvement is accurate...it merely means they are the cutout for the CIA because the CIA doesn't want any direct connection...and I wager the CIA assets in-country while perhaps modest are still more than anything MI6 might have available, so my early inquiry as to CIA involvement and the reason behind it (a complication for Russia in the East to bear pressure in Ukraine discussions) appears to be accurate...for now Putin is responding in Kazakhstan as desired.  And, indirectly a side-challenge to Xi in Beijing as well, given their interests there.
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2022, 11:26:32 AM »
This Escobar is a shameless unapologetic Russophile...

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-maidan-almaty-oh-yeah-its-complicated

...and I discount a lot of what he says as boilerplate Putinish bloviating...and I have zero doubt the high-ranking intel sources are loyal Putin SVR servants...but for the sake of argument say the MI6 involvement is accurate...it merely means they are the cutout for the CIA because the CIA doesn't want any direct connection...and I wager the CIA assets in-country while perhaps modest are still more than anything MI6 might have available, so my early inquiry as to CIA involvement and the reason behind it (a complication for Russia in the East to bear pressure in Ukraine discussions) appears to be accurate...for now Putin is responding in Kazakhstan as desired.  And, indirectly a side-challenge to Xi in Beijing as well, given their interests there.

It does sound complicated. The 'protests' happened so quickly and escalated to organized armed violence. I believe there is outside organization by the usual western suspects.

Max Blumenthal wrote The Management of Savagery. A very good book. He talks about "the disposal problem", a phrase he did not create. Once you arm the Muslim savages to kill people you do not like, how do you dispose of them? Turkey armed these savages to take down Assad in Syria but no way does Erdogan want them in Turkey.  So he throws them into battle all over the place for his own ends and to hopefully get them killed. The Israelis provided them safe passage out of Syria for their own selfish ends. I cannot remember what they were.

There are lots of peaceful, basically non-observant Muslims around the world. The CIA does not arm them. The fundamentalists get all the US arms money all the Saudi mosque money. US money gave the fundamentalist Pakis the upper hand internally in govt.

I recall a headline from the fighters sent by Erdogan to the Azerbaijan Armenia battles. "They do not care if we die."

So I would not doubt if the same jihadis were used here. Head chopping is not a liely internal civil war method IMO in this country. The Duran says that Russian speakers go way beyond ethnic Russians and are heavily represented in the business community.

This rapid escalation did remind me of The US backed Maidan coup. Also the start of the Syrian conflict. One news story said that the initial Syria  protest arose in a suspect unlikely location and was heavily armed from the outset, not a peaceful protest that got ugly after Assad clamped down.
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2022, 12:30:07 PM »
Well, somebody shooting somebody...or in DemCom sh!tspeak...somebody did something...

https://youtu.be/eDsbVhmXZ6k

...ahh, probably all faked...

...but anyway...The Russians Are Coming!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-sends-troops-into-kazakhstan-as-protests-turn-deadly/

https://youtu.be/Th-Z6le3bHA
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2022, 03:31:57 PM »
Well, somebody shooting somebody...or in DemCom sh!tspeak...somebody did something...

https://youtu.be/eDsbVhmXZ6k

...ahh, probably all faked...

...but anyway...The Russians Are Coming!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-sends-troops-into-kazakhstan-as-protests-turn-deadly/

https://youtu.be/Th-Z6le3bHA

The rapid moves to take over govt buildings, TV stations, and the airport indicate something more than a protest.

They changed the words in the anthem to be the Russian national anthem.
My favorite two versions.
Pole vault version
https://youtu.be/ul_qm3Ym8-k

Crimea version
https://youtu.be/h9RwYPsVpfM
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2022, 08:53:37 AM »
The usual Russophiles are still crying foul play...pointing at eeeeeeevil America.

Yo, Rus-Groupies...We are not the America you have an issue with, We have no control over puppet JoeFraud...

Boo-hoo diaper-toss #1 - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakh-chaos-cue-ahead-crunch-us-russia-security-negotiations

Moscow's state-run media OMG it is the end of the world coverage/wag the Maiden on Red Square scare/Boo-hoo diaper-toss #2 - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/why-kazakhstan-crisis-much-bigger-deal-western-media-letting

Ironic little-covered Biden link to Kazakh traitor...a by-play never nixed by apocalyptic Rus in the past - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/palace-coup-kazakh-security-chief-arrested-treason-was-close-friends-hunter-biden

More leg-lifting ahead of talks - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-threatens-curbs-tech-electronics-access-day-russia-nato-talks

Hand-ringing over getting Donbased in Kazakhstan/Hey you idiots let Soros in/Boo-hoo diaper-toss #3 - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-another-western-ordered-maidan-making

And in closing, another article that makes one wonder how good Russia really is at chess (Biden's, Soros...this US-funded military bio-lab?) and has Russia & Kazakhstan disagreeing on the facts -
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/kazakhstan-denies-us-funded-military-biological-lab-seized-rioters-after-russia-claims

...so instead of blaming all of America how about being specific...and also taking some blame (Russia and Kazakhstan) for your many mistakes?

No?  Yeah, figured as much...confirming my oft-stated belief there are no innocents, no champions, no heroes on anybody's side of this!
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2022, 11:22:02 AM »


I watched some of this in the early AM but fell asleep. I recall that they said that there was some self proclaimed new president who fled the country and is now president in exile. They said that there was a pre-planned series of actions in place that were executed when this opportunity presented itself.

https://rumble.com/vsac72-kazakhstan-regime-change-status-update-live.html
Kazakhstan Regime Change Status Update (Live)
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2022, 12:03:43 PM »
The Duran says that Chevron is the major oil and gas producer in the country. Some previous president made that happen and kept out Russian producers.

They point out how much money the NGOs make off creating color revolutions. They say it is easy to do in some countries.
In one country it only cost the US govt $250 million. To bribe the leaders of the security forces is one cost.

Both say politicians are cheap to buy. Alexander says he was offered a UK govt job and told he would be receiving cash envelopes under the table.
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2022, 03:29:31 PM »


The Duran said that Chinese and Russian media reported that Turkey was behind this.
I read that Turkey was trying to dispose of the Jihadis they armed and sent to Syria.
Russia and China are both concerned considering the long borders they share with this country.

I have no problem believing the US was involved considering Ukraine, Libya, Syria, etc. Those are just the efforts the US admits to.
Also the US was rumored to have been behind a fairly recent coup attempt in Belarus.

The Duran concluded that this color revolution attempt failed in part because the president stayed in the country and fought and Russia responded quickly and put down the attempt which did not require much effort.
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« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2022, 04:35:30 PM »


The Duran said that Chinese and Russian media reported that Turkey was behind this.
I read that Turkey was trying to dispose of the Jihadis they armed and sent to Syria.
Russia and China are both concerned considering the long borders they share with this country.

I have no problem believing the US was involved considering Ukraine, Libya, Syria, etc. Those are just the efforts the US admits to.
Also the US was rumored to have been behind a fairly recent coup attempt in Belarus.

The Duran concluded that this color revolution attempt failed in part because the president stayed in the country and fought and Russia responded quickly and put down the attempt which did not require much effort.

Hilarious...karma is a bitch...they seem to have no problem passing the worlds filth off to others...and we know they like arming scum like Iran et al too...



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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2022, 08:51:43 AM »
Pro-Rus Escobar pointing finger at US, Turkey, UK and (naturally) Da Joos!

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-after-kazakhstan-color-revolution-era-over

Frankly, as go-it-alone as Erdogan's leadership has been and with his ego-driven Pan-Muslim Sultanate dreams...the US has never had poorer relations with this nominal NATO ally at the Eastern Gate...doesn't mean backchannel allies haven't been advising from the shadows but I doubt any in-country direct involvement...too much that could go wrong in blowback if discovered...DeepStater's get cautious overseas...they're much more comfortable targeting citizens back home.  And as previously stated UK is probably more advisory like the US and at a lesser level given lesser resources.  As for Israel, probably not averse to seeing Russia or China get dirt in their face...so some Mossad advice would not be unusual.  But I think the bigger role is Turkey and its hodgepodge of Muslim mercenaries.

Escobar is short on evidence and long on ginning up hate in a typical Pro-Rus narrative...Russophobe, Atlanticist...

 ::hysterical::

This is pure propaganda that will have zero impact on a single decision-maker...it is for Russian and Pro-Russian consumption only.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2022, 05:48:52 PM »

I did not watch the whole thing.

Escobar is on the Grayzone. Says that Jihadis who were in Afghanistan go through Turkmenistan to Kazakhstan.
He says the Russians knew ahead of time and that is why they acted so fast.
He blames Turkey some which would not surprise me.

Pablo says the rat lines from Idlib and Afghanistan ferry the jihadis. He says Kyrgyzstan is in the middle of this. Lots of Americans there and NGOs. Fergana valley?

https://www.worldatlas.com/maps/kyrgyzstan

Max Blumenthal wrote about how Turkey wants to dispose of the Jihadis they sent into Syria. I like about half of what he says.
https://youtu.be/bfhs3_aKwTY
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Re: Uranium rich Kazakhstan slipping into civil war?
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2022, 12:21:00 PM »
As always in parts of the world like this I am destined to perpetual disappointment...they can never meet my desires to kill each other off...

Everything from Georgia to Kazakhstan in the north down to Arabia and back east over to the southern reach of the 'Stan's is arguably the meanest part of the world...
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