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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2024, 12:15:32 PM »
I have this on. Sachs says Russia fear/hatred goes back 1000 years before 1917. Alexander says you could take UK editorials from 1815 through the Crimean war and publish them today and they would seem current. Anti Russia. I am just trying to figure out this whole Russophobia thing which goes back a long way. In short, Russia is big and scary. Alexander says London is the center of Russophobia. In 1800s Russia was said to be about to invade India. Not realistic but who cares.

https://youtu.be/eJNg5OwM6VU
 Putin's message to the west w/ Jeffrey Sachs (Live)
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Sachs is on for 30 minutes only. Good stuff. How MSM and NYT refuse to do reporting.
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« Reply #41 on: February 12, 2024, 03:42:17 PM »
Then why were so many Brits Russia-loving red commie traitors like Kim Philby & Guy Burgess (there were lots others)?

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Lots of red-lovers here too from Wilson on...FDR's man Harry Hopkins was a red.

Dem's after the Soviet fall wept about losing their soulmates...and now they are as totalitarian as any commie or fascist.

Also, Russia never helps itself when later rulers failed to stick with Catherine the Great's pivot West...the tortured Russian soul has always struggled with their identity and if they were East or West...there is always a glum everybody is out to get us cloud in their psyche they have never been able to shake...that and their indifference to strong-handed central leadership...Putin is Czar in all but name...
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« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2024, 12:01:59 PM »
I have a book to read on Russophobia. The subtitle indicates it might go back to the Catholic vs Orthodox split. Indra-religious wars are often nasty. .
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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2024, 03:35:19 PM »
Ahh, The Great Schism...

Many latter day armchair historians like to think the theological issues were secondary and the main driven was East-West hatred...but that is latter day socialist dreck (culminating in present day woke garbage) that seeks to promote cultural differences like socialists all like to do as a means of legitimizing their fringe beliefs and mainstreaming their powerbase...

It was not a Pope Leo IX vs Patriarch of Constantinople (or See of Constantinople) Michael Cerularius cage match.

Things came to a head in 1054 after a series of councils discussing theological issues and the primacy of the Bishops of the Churches.

A big point of contention was over the Trinity...the Latin use of filoque in the Nicene Creed for from whence the Holy Spirit flows...and it seems kind of odd for a "Christian" to demote Jesus as the Eastern Orthodox did, but it was a big deal to these early church leaders...as was using unleavened bread in Eucharist...and relatively lesser differences on original sin etc...and yes, governance.

The Bishop of Constantinople has an honorary title of First Among Equals but in Orthodox structure the Bishops of the key churches (and in their view) including the Bishop of Rome (aka The Pope) are all equals...(and interestingly the honorific First Among Equals was also used by the East for the Bishop of Rome pre-Schism)...the 5 Patriarchs were - Rome, Constantinople, Antioch, Jerusalem & Alexandria...  The East saw St.Peter as the first Bishop of Antioch, at this time not even the West saw him as the First Bishop of Rome...but around the 3rd century it became popular in the West to see him as First Pope, and many see the scripture where Jesus says to Peter he shall be the rock upon which he would build his church and the fact that he was martyred in Rome as support of that even if the title had not yet existed.  It also shows the centralized versus decentralized view of East and West at the time. 

Anyway, excommunications ensued both directions, each went their separate ways and not until the 4th Crusade did some ill-advised morons from Europe see an opportunity to plunder the wealth of the Eastern Empire than be slaughtered in the dust of the Holy Land fighting howling Muslim hordes...

If some are butthurt over that, well...that's their problem.  Vatican II saw reconciliation and the lifting of each others excommunication decrees.  Everybody is getting along now...nobody needs to be an asshole.  Well, Z...but that's his fricken problem, not mine/ours/yours.
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« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2024, 04:24:35 PM »

How do you know all of the above? Why and when did you learn that?
I am only trying to figure out the Russia hatred that seems to have started long ago.
e.g. Why Russiagate? I cannot think of a time when Russians were not the boogeymen.

Russia did occupy much land in driving the Axis back into Germany but that does not seem bad by historical standards plus they left. Romans would have enslaved them and plowed salt into the soil. Mongols would have killed them all. Germans had the "special groups" to hunt down civilians, not the USSR. I will try to learn why the USSR fell apart. Yeah USSR troops  got permission to rape in Berlin for a while but at least the victims  lived.

 I get the feeling it was political suicide by the USSR leaders. I am only now learning how life fell apart after the USSR collapse. Gorbachev is viewed as a traitor. Yeltsin a drunk.

I get the impression that many of the occupied lands before and after WWII were money losers for USSR/Russia. I think that the Baltics really tanked after USSR fell rather than improve, at least for a couple decades. Plus they lost a lot of people. Why are they so nasty now? Maybe they get their time in the limelight before their leaders join NGOs.
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« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2024, 04:37:05 PM »

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A big point of contention was over the Trinity...the Latin use of filoque in the Nicene Creed for from whence the Holy Spirit flows...and it seems kind of odd for a "Christian" to demote Jesus as the Eastern Orthodox did, but it was a big deal to these early church leaders...as was using unleavened bread in Eucharist...and relatively lesser differences on original sin etc...and yes, governance.

Reminds me. Long ago a Russian exchange student pointed out a painting in a book. Some famous battle where people who crossed themselves with 2 finers fought people who used 3 fingers. She said it was more complicated than that and involved som,el forced change in liturgy.

A while back I watched another video blog of a visit to an isolated village in Siberia where the "Old Believers" lived. One of the factions. I saw the painting again.

https://youtu.be/6sdbf2XZJuU
 Religious Refugees Who Opposed Moscow and fled to Siberia. What happened to them?
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Agafia Lykova is perhaps the most famous hermit living in the Siberian wilderness. Not everyone knows that she's a descendant of the Old Believers, Russian Orthodox Christians who fled to this frontier 300 years ago fearing repression and persecution from Moscow's official Church. Today, Old Believers are still found in secluded Siberian communities, where they maintain peculiar traditions inherited from their ancestors.

https://orthochristian.com/60716.html
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2024, 12:18:48 PM »

Tucker asked Putin about the jailed WSJ journalist. Putin said that they had proof he was spying, received secret documents,  and was dealing with it through channels.

Ritter reminded me of something. The CIA said they would not rule out using journalists as spies. This pissed off journalists as they said it marked them as possible spies. Ritter guessed that given the location, Yekaterinburg, the guy was trying to find numbers of missile production and stockpiles.

What is Yekaterinburg Russia known for?
Today, Yekaterinburg is primarily known both as a center of heavy industry and steel-making, the Russian equivalent of Pittsburgh, and as a major freight transportation hub.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2024, 02:54:08 PM »
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2024, 04:33:27 PM »
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...

Naw. They swap them now. Maybe worse if a traitor. But this guy is American. I heard they want to swap him for some assassin who is in EU custody. I think they want to try him for the crime of killing some Russian in EU.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2024, 04:37:09 PM »

Some cute RU propaganda video that is pro Carlson. An eagle flies with a microphone interviews the RU bear while uncle same seethes while the curtain raises and reveals a nice RU. Same people make the Ukr piglet animations.

https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/460
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« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2024, 09:30:40 AM »
Well, he should quit being a pussy then and just put him up against a wall and shoot him then...

Naw. They swap them now. Maybe worse if a traitor. But this guy is American. I heard they want to swap him for some assassin who is in EU custody. I think they want to try him for the crime of killing some Russian in EU.

And that's why there is no trade...maybe Putin should arrange an escape and pin a murder on him, par it up...   ::rolllaughing::
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« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2024, 01:00:45 PM »
OK, this is funny...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816

H/T-GP

Also...Larry Johnson at GP posted this...


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/

Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...

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« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2024, 04:10:20 PM »

Thanks for the above. I only saw the LJ meme in Russian for some reason. I have watched everyone on there off and on.
Judge NAP has lots of those fmr CIA guys on his show but listed under "live" rather than videos after they play.
I trust amateur video bloggers more than any news source.
I love that Tucker did the grocery store video. Lots of video bloggers have been doing those for over a year, comparing current food prices to before the SMO but most people do not watch those. I like Eli from Russia.

Some ex pat from UK lived in St. Pete and heated his house with all electric. He said his winter monthly elec bill was around 100 USD.

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« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2024, 04:29:12 PM »


I found this, If you download telegram desktop you can download a hi res version of the map of Russia. From 1887 Chambers Encyclopedia.
https://t.me/c/1458395831/328213
I may try to upload the hi res map into a link.
There is no Ukraine on the map.  BUT I notice there is a Lapland label stretching across Finland and Great Russia so other maps may also have geographic terms like this and Ukraine. The only reason I find this important is that people who say they are Ukrainian say they want to drive the subhuman Russians (civilians and army) off their sacred land. They have rewritten history to create an ancient Ukraine nation of the Ukr people from whom even the french, spainards, and jews descended.

Little Russia included Kiev within the eastern border. West Russia has Grodino on eastern border. Poland is centered on warsaw. Siberia may be a geographic term.
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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2024, 05:20:08 PM »
OK, this is funny...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758097544708538621

https://twitter.com/i/status/1758083759079923816

H/T-GP

Also...Larry Johnson at GP posted this...


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/02/looks-like-we-made-it-mike-turners-russian/

Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...
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« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2024, 05:50:29 PM »
OK, this is funny...
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Of course he is having fun with it...

On a personal note, I would not want to be associated with Escobar (so in love with anything Putin) and for Macgregor I think my opinion is known (he undercuts his statements with too much ego-driven detours)...

IMO Jackson Hinkle is second rate. So is Redacted but they are getting better and include first rate people often on site. I presume they pay them. People like Patrick Lancaster. They dug into the Hawaii fire a lot.
Brian Berletic is a  CPC simp but he usually backs up what he says with lots of links, often from western sources, even US DOD.
I may look into the others. Alex Christoforou is fast paced, funny, and not too long. A daily news aggregator. From Cyrprus but grew up in US. Moscow, Mexico City. He seems to have a Long Islamd accent.

alex
https://youtu.be/0reEXeWjHBs

here is the RU propaganda Tucker meme
https://rumble.com/v4dgwh0-carlson-is-back.-.html

I had heard that Ukr rewrote history of the ancient Ukr people. Here is a meme
https://rumble.com/v4dgwh0-carlson-is-back.-.html

Depleted uranium meme
https://rumble.com/v2r9slm-ukraine-piglet-20-20-chapter-20-not-every-mushroom-is-a-truffle.html


three little Ujr pigs meme. Different source. Watch to the end.
https://youtu.be/QyMoKGJZ5jA


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« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2024, 08:24:53 AM »
I don't know the other names you mentioned, which it appears is a good thing...I have heard Christoforou from time to time and hear others mentioning him too here and there...he seems OK, not a rabid Putin gravy lover like Escobar...not an egomaniac like Macgregor...seems fairly stable, almost Tucker like, eh?
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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2024, 02:21:51 PM »
Before I forget, how do you know so much about the history of the eastern orthodox and the like?

We differ on Macgregor. Just bc he wrote a few military history books and has a PhD does not mean is is right about everything but he seems to  know a lot of history and geography. He seems to know the current state of the US and other militaries. He also looks at things from the point of view of other countries.

Judge Nap also has on former ambassadors Chas Freeman and Alastair Crooke, both very measured and wise IMO. Plus several former CIA and US DOD or state dept. Larry Johnson, Col. Shaefer? Col. Davis? Ray McGovern. Look under the "live" YT playlists. His friday intel round table is pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom/streams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYrFstT3q8



Alex differs on the events of the day he is covering. When Alexander is added they are "The Duran" but be drones on and on and speaks slowly His aunt was some greek actress and politician.

Brian Berletic is former US marine. What he added for me is pointing out the US NGO background and training of many in  US funded opposition parties around the world, starting with Thailand where he lives.  US NED does the work of the old CIA around the world. He shows the inter locking boards and even extended families involved. Also massive supply and training and parts for the latest US weapons to save Ukraine. He backs it up with lots of links. He also shows the Harvard atlas of econ dev? You can view the degree of imports and exports for any  nation.

Finally, if you ever have more time, read Robert D. Kaplan (make sure the D is present. Balkan Ghosts was good and so was Monsoon.
He embedded with the Taliban fighting the soviets! he weaves geography, ethnography, history,and some geology. 
https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B000APBESC/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=ca447547-939a-41b9-aad2-5ada3a02ac15&ref_=ap_rdr

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« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2024, 04:13:51 PM »

I was given a Russian picture book long ago. It seemed every photos had a helicopter in the background. Siberia.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/8891

The Ket People / 2009
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Ket are indigenous people from the Yenisei River in Central Siberia. Their settlements can only be reached by a helicopter or a boat. The Ket way of life has remained the same for hundreds of years. They go hunting and fishing. Some people call them the Siberian Indians, as they are related to some native North American groups. There’re only around 1000 Ket people left and only 200 of them speak their native language. February 21 is International Mother Language Day! Ket is one of the rare languages in Russia, its closest relative language died out in the 20th century.
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« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2024, 04:33:09 PM »

When Kiev realizes they are losing they strike civilian targets rather than military.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47500
??WOMAN'S AGONIZING WAIL RESOUNDS as people find dead, contorted bodies in the rubble of the Belgorod attack. (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/34083?single)

NATO-armed Ukrainian forces attack a mall on the outskirts of the city (pictured bottom right) - official sources yet to confirm number of perished.
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