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Re: Russia
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2024, 08:02:41 AM »
Sure, worth billions more in US taxpayer money...some for bombs, some for payoffs, some for blow up Z's nose...
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Re: Russia
« Reply #61 on: February 21, 2024, 08:36:43 AM »
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« Reply #62 on: February 21, 2024, 09:11:19 AM »
And looks like the Rooskies finally caught up to this guy...

https://twitter.com/TOGAjano21/status/1759605320496603599
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« Reply #63 on: February 21, 2024, 12:17:49 PM »

That was predictable. The helicopter pilot. I recall 2 crew member were killed.

I am not sure if this is in the news, but Navalny's organization was paid money by NED, a CIA cutout. Also, his right hand man was caught on camera asking MI6 for millions.

Fmr CIA Ray McGovern said he would not be surprised in the US or UK had Navalny killed in prison.
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« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2024, 02:03:37 PM »
That sounds like a large load of crap to me...one would think if Putin had evidence like that he and everybody in his government would be waiving it proudly...

Without evidence it looks like desperate knee-jerk Putin exoneration...
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« Reply #65 on: February 21, 2024, 08:17:04 PM »

I meant his right hand man was caught on camera asking for $10-20 million USD (yearly?)  from UK MI6. It was released to the pubic.I recall he said it was to pull off a color revolution but my memory is faulty

The source for the NED funding the Navalny organization was Wikileaks which was published.

Given that the US, according to Viki Nuland, pumped $5B USD into Ukraine, pumping that low an amount into NED  Russia does not seem out of place.

He is a clip of Nuland saying that from the only recent source I remember. This is Russian animation propaganda but has the clip. .
https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/458
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https://rumble.com/v4dha6b-ukr-piglet-30-sacral-swine-30-.html

Hearing Ray McGovern on Judge Nap speculate that the west killed Navalny in prison was the wildest thing I ever herd him say. CIA is former CIA who used to brief Reagan.
Others have noticed navalny's wife's behavior. Putin has nothing to gain by making him a martyr. He had very low approval ratings in Russia.

I think this is the McGovern video. See 10 min in.
https://youtu.be/RPYrFstT3q8
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.

Brian Berletic has been useful in many areas. One is in showing how the US does color revolutions, including using the NED, He has seen them used in Thailand. I think he went to some receptions until they figured out who he was.
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« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2024, 11:48:23 AM »
 I had some videos on and heard a different aspect to Navalny. It went into some details but said he was convicted for fraud involving large amounts of money. It would be nice if the news reported on news. That is their official job.

Plus his death is pretty convenient and is being used to beg for a current bill passage. also, I may have just heard a phrase about his wife's boyfriend but I was half asleep. she does seem to be very happy at the Munich conference a day later.

I heard that yer ago navalny ran for Moscow mayor and got a respectable 27 pct of vote but low turnout. Then he decreased over time to maybe 1 pct nationwide.
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Re: Russia
« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2024, 01:10:27 PM »

his mother does a brutal smack down on ex wife.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9001?comment=215907
or
https://t.me/myLordBebo/23524

🇷🇺??🚨 BREAKING: Navalny’s mother says:
- His wife did not see Navalny for 2 years
- She forced him to go to Russia
- She made him transfer all his property in her name
- She appears with other men in public
- Is shamelessly profiting on his death.
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Re: Russia
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2024, 01:52:29 PM »

I meant his right hand man was caught on camera asking for $10-20 million USD (yearly?)  from UK MI6. It was released to the pubic.I recall he said it was to pull off a color revolution but my memory is faulty

The source for the NED funding the Navalny organization was Wikileaks which was published.

Given that the US, according to Viki Nuland, pumped $5B USD into Ukraine, pumping that low an amount into NED  Russia does not seem out of place.

He is a clip of Nuland saying that from the only recent source I remember. This is Russian animation propaganda but has the clip. .
https://t.me/svinkavobmoroke/458
or
https://rumble.com/v4dha6b-ukr-piglet-30-sacral-swine-30-.html

Hearing Ray McGovern on Judge Nap speculate that the west killed Navalny in prison was the wildest thing I ever herd him say. CIA is former CIA who used to brief Reagan.
Others have noticed navalny's wife's behavior. Putin has nothing to gain by making him a martyr. He had very low approval ratings in Russia.

I think this is the McGovern video. See 10 min in.
https://youtu.be/RPYrFstT3q8
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.

Brian Berletic has been useful in many areas. One is in showing how the US does color revolutions, including using the NED, He has seen them used in Thailand. I think he went to some receptions until they figured out who he was.

Well, OK an "associate"...perhaps he was the CIA's patsy and perhaps Navalny trusted his man too much or was negligent in vetting where his contributions came from (not hard to do with all of the cut outs IC types do) it doesn't mean Navalny is directly guilty and at this time was Russia not a nominal global business nation?  If the CIA wanted to pop somebody maybe the patsy...and is said "right hand man" even living now...or was his job to merely frame up Navalny for Putin to act against (making Putin silly for falling for the bait)?  Too many unknowns to take Putin or anybody off the hook.  And Rus apologists have too much color revolutions on their mind...the time for that was under Yeltsin and could have been codified by him over some Stoli.
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Re: Russia
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2024, 01:56:00 PM »
I had some videos on and heard a different aspect to Navalny. It went into some details but said he was convicted for fraud involving large amounts of money. It would be nice if the news reported on news. That is their official job.

Plus his death is pretty convenient and is being used to beg for a current bill passage. also, I may have just heard a phrase about his wife's boyfriend but I was half asleep. she does seem to be very happy at the Munich conference a day later.

I heard that yer ago navalny ran for Moscow mayor and got a respectable 27 pct of vote but low turnout. Then he decreased over time to maybe 1 pct nationwide.

No court evidence?  Russia doesn't allow that to be seen by the public?  I mean if he was on the take for the evil US their return stunk if your vote numbers are right...which also begs the question - how much of a threat to Putin could he have been?
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« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2024, 01:57:02 PM »

his mother does a brutal smack down on ex wife.
https://t.me/putingers_cat/9001?comment=215907
or
https://t.me/myLordBebo/23524

🇷🇺??🚨 BREAKING: Navalny’s mother says:
- His wife did not see Navalny for 2 years
- She forced him to go to Russia
- She made him transfer all his property in her name
- She appears with other men in public
- Is shamelessly profiting on his death.

Whore who will do anyting for money?  Hey, Nikki has a friend!   ::rimshot::   ::hysterical::
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Re: Russia
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2024, 02:33:19 PM »

At least the 'news' could report on what he was charged with.
At the very least the associate meeting with MI6 would put Nalvany under surveillance.
Also stop making his wife a widow saint.
The post from the mother is kinda sad.
The Navalny death IS being used to press for more spending. It helps the west and hurts Putin. That may be partly why Ray McGovern thought the west did it and how easy it would be. Plus I heard that Navalny's lawyer gave him recent medicine? 2 days before? My memory is not perfect but the timing seems too convenient.
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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2024, 03:21:20 PM »
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?
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« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2024, 04:21:01 PM »
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?

???
I just meant that I saw that pressure being put on the US Congress citing Vavalny.

Also here is a link to the UK MI6 video
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47611
It’s never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

In this video, Navalny's top aide Vladimir Ashurkov is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is one of the reasons why Navalny was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration.
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Re: Russia
« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2024, 04:23:54 PM »

Here is the old navalny campaign ad. Comparing Muslims to cockroaches then shooting a cockroach.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47618
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« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2024, 07:59:01 AM »
You are talking helping raise funds from Congress here?  I've heard nobody pimp that idea, though the ones who would (dems/cucks) I would dismiss anyway...their actions have helped Putin more than anything anybody else here has or can do!  Sanctions!  Killing your own energy independence!  Hurting your own currency!  Bankrupting your nation!  Putin himself favors FJB over Trump because he is more "predictable"...yes, to do that worst think for us and best thing for Russia!  Is the CIA looking to help Russia and hurt us?

???
I just meant that I saw that pressure being put on the US Congress citing Vavalny.

Also here is a link to the UK MI6 video
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47611
It’s never good to be caught on camera attempting a coup in your country with a foreign intel service.

In this video, Navalny's top aide Vladimir Ashurkov is asking MI6 Officer James William Thomas Ford for $10-20 Million a year to start a color revolution in Russia.

This is one of the reasons why Navalny was arrested. And has major implications especially in light of the CIA and MI6 sabotaging the Trump administration.

Telegram doesn't work for me...almost always.  Anyway, if what you say is accurate that makes Ashurkov a suspect for trial, not Navalny...unless the former implicated the latter, but I do not recall his trials or if this Ashurkov character testified or was cross-examined...
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Re: Russia
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2024, 08:00:22 AM »

Here is the old navalny campaign ad. Comparing Muslims to cockroaches then shooting a cockroach.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses/47618

Another link that doesn't work for me.

Anyway...is that a bad thing?   ::whatgives::
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« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2024, 09:15:02 AM »
Well, isn't this entertaining?!

Russian authorities have said that the opposition activist Aleksei Navalny died of natural causes while in prison in a far northern Arctic penal colony. It comes nearly a full week after Russian prison services announced he died on Feb.16.

There's now a public fight over his body, and the question of a funeral service, as his family and legal team have complained they are being denied access to the deceased. Condemnations have come in from various Western countries, and have pointed at the Putin government, ultimately blaming the Kremlin for his death while in custody. This has included US and European officials.

Navalny's mother, Lyudmila Navalnaya, has newly accused Russian officials of seeking to pressure her into accepting a secret burial, presumably to prevent it from becoming a major televised memorial event.

"Looking me in the eyes, they say that if I don't agree to a secret funeral, they will do something with my son's body," she said in a video posted to Navalny's widow's social media account.

"According to the law, they should have given me Alexei's body immediately," she said. "Instead, they are blackmailing me, and telling me where, when and how Alexei should be buried." She has reportedly filed a lawsuit for immediate release to her custody of his body.

Navalny's legal team has seen a death report saying his death was "natural" - however, few other specifics has been made public.

Meanwhile, Western press has already hailed that his wife Yulia is carrying on the work of team Navalny and will lead the political "opposition" against Putin. Name recognition inside Russia is a whole different question...


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-navalny-died-natural-causes-western-msm-anoints-widow-newest-opposition

I predict the most dedicated Russophiles and Putin idolizers will glom on the MFM championing Yulia as opposition heir...but really, that only works if a) an independent autopsy is allowed and the cause of death is as the government says and b) the allegations of harassing the widow into signing off on a quick quiet burial are a fraud...sans that evidence the position of the government is suspect.  Also, if the government just chooses on its own to cremate Navalny's remains it will look magnitudes worse.
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Re: Russia
« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2024, 08:20:52 PM »
Some other intel guy speculated that UK killed Navalny.
Some Berlin blood work years ago  indicated he was not a well man.
His lawyer visited him 2 days before death.

Former CIA Ray Mcgovern said Obama did not want to send lethal weapons to Ukr because it might make them think they could win against Russia. Merkle said it would be a terrible idea in public.

In 2015 someone said/wrote that if war in Ukr that played to Russian strength. Anything we gave to Ukr would be matched, then doubled, then tripled, then quadrupled by Russia. Who? Then deputy US SOS Blinken.

Former US ambassador Burns wrote his famous (leaked) memo saying that inviting Ukr into NATO was a red line and would likely provoke Russia to war. In 2008? Later as CIA director he said the RU invasion was unprovoked.


https://t.me/kalibratedchat/320115
🇷🇺🇺🇦 JUST IN: The head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of Ukraine, Kyrylo Budanov, said that, according to Ukrainian intelligence, Alexey Navalny actually died due to a blood clot.

🐻 You don't say... We thought Putin killed him, that's what Western Media has been SCREAMING for the past week.

Could it be possible that a certain US based pharmaceutical company killed Navalny? 🤷???

A link to the McGovern video. He gives a summary of recent history leading up to SMO. I knew it all  before.
https://youtu.be/XcIHchh7Bac
 Ex-CIA: US Pentagon TERRIFIED Over New Russia Strike Plan On Ukraine
Stephen Gardner


[They shopped the piece below around to major media for 10 days and no one would touch it so they posted it below]
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/02/16/throwing-good-money-after-bad-in-ukraine/
Throwing Good Money After Bad in Ukraine?
February 16, 2024
Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.
...

Ray McGovern and Lawrence Wilkerson argue the U.S. should accept that no amount of U.S. funding will change Russia’s will and means to prevail in Ukraine.
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Re: Russia
« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2024, 08:36:27 AM »
I thought the only jab possible in Russia was Sputnik?
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