Topic: Physicians ask for injunction against ‘Docs v. Glocks’ law

[Pandora]

I wouldn't need a law; I'd tell the Doc it was none of his business, but these people do include notations about attitude and such in your medical records.  Just in case you didn't know that.

The physician groups suing to block a new Florida law that bans doctors from asking patients about guns in their homes asked a federal judge in Miami Friday for an injunction to block enforcement of the law.

The law (HB 155) signed by Gov. Rick Scott earlier this month would require that doctors, emergency medical personnel and other health-care providers refrain from asking about gun ownership unless they “in good faith [believe] that this information is relevant to the patient’s medical care or safety, or the safety of others.” In addition, they could not enter the response into a database.

The bill passed after lobbyists for the NRA and Florida Medical Association cut a deal that removed the original bill’s jail time for doctors and weakened other restrictions. The physician groups said they were asking a judge to temporarily block the law because it had already “curtailed the First Amendment rights of physicians across the state to speak with their patients about gun safety.”

Keep reading for the release:

The Florida chapters of three national medical organizations, along with six physicians, today asked a federal district judge in Miami to immediately block enforcement of the new state law that bars healthcare professionals from asking patients if they own guns and have them stored properly.

These questions are a key element in the practice of preventive medicine. The court papers filed today make clear that a request for a preliminary injunction is necessary because the new law has already curtailed the First Amendment rights of physicians across the state to speak with their patients about gun safety.

Lisa A. Cosgrove, M.D., FAAP, President of the Florida Pediatric Society (Florida Chapter of the American Academy of Pediatrics) said: “Pediatricians simply want to do what they do best: protect children.  We hope that we will be able to get back to the business of asking parents to keep their guns, pools and poisons where they can’t harm kids.”

First, what in thee hell do doctors know about "gun safety" anyway?

Second, this is, of course, (say it with me now) for the children.

Read the rest of the press release at the link.

These people harsh my calm.

H/T Mike M.

eta:  "The organizations and individual physicians in the lawsuit are represented by Ropes & Gray, Astigarraga Davis, and lawyers from the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s Legal Action Project."

Agenda.

[charlesoakwood]

Doctors practice medicine.  They practice because it is never perfected, they need to mind their business (keep practicing) and STFU.

Meddling is becoming systemic.  I still can't get over that law requiring everyone to have a lockbox on their door in order for police or fire to enter.  And I fear that every state has allowed a piece of this insanity to creep into its culture and codified.

 

[Libertas]

Unless a gun is somehow wedged up a body cavity I would expect a doctor not to ask any questions about guns...maybe in SF and other deviant environs that is a problem, I dunno nor do I care.

Under the aegis of "health & safety" socialists could intrude anywhere anytime for any reason.

Are you gay?  Yes?  You must be quarantined immediately and tested for life-ending diseases!

Do you eat fatty foods?  Yes?  You could have a heart-attack any second now, you must not be allowed to drive any vehicle are pick up anything sharper than a blunt spoon!

Do you ride a bicycle?  Yes?  Do you use a helmet?  No?  You must not be allowed to use a bicycle and you must submit yourself for re-education!

Do you speak your mind?  Yes?  That sh*t can get you killed!  You better learn to shut up and do what you're told, or you'll be rounded up and sent to gulag!

  them!

 

[IronDioPriest]

Our pediatricians in MN have been asking children about guns in the home for years now. The first time, I was caught off guard, and answered the question in the affirmative, which was then followed up by questions about storage, locks, proximity and availability to children, etc.

Since that first time, I simply state that any items in our home are no one else's business, and that puts an end to the questions.

[Libertas]

Yeah, me too IDP, but like Pan said, our uncooperative attitude probably got recorded.  And since our state providers are industry leaders in electronic records...well heck...how long until somebody puts a database together to track the malcontents?!  But anybody who bought a gun through a retailer is on the grid anyway, so it's not like it should be that difficult for evildoers to come after us and our guns anyway, right?  Which is why we are so (justifiably!) concerned over our Second Amendment rights!  Nazi's always work the edges and then swoop in hard and render your rights moot overnight!

I did have one doc preface his question to me once as "I have to ask this..." indicating he hated to ask it and/or was a gun owner himself...so he finished for me "...stored safe, yes?"..."Yup".  The end.

Stupid damn question though, and can only be intended to curtail someones rights!  I have not heard one instance where a doc asking this actually wet themselves in fear at an answer and ratted them out to the police and had them arrested because they were worried a kid was going to get shot for some reason or other.  Never!  It's all BS intended to intimidate lawful gun owners, period!  And the leftists have no problem hiding behind kids to do it.

[John Florida]

You can tell the doctor to pound sand down here but it is the nose under the tent type thing.

[Damn_Lucky]

The only way a doctor will know if I have any guns is if he/she needs protection or kills someone I love out of malice.

[rickl]

Just imagine once we have single-payer health care and doctors are government employees.  It will probably be a federal crime to lie to them.

[charlesoakwood]

Doctors should be required to carry.  It is against the law for civilians to enter a hospital or medical facility armed therefore it is as incumbent upon the physician to protect you as it is to heal you.

Perhaps when the Dr. asks the question it should be returned to him.

 

[Libertas]

Good point CO, if they are given a dual mandate as healer and protector, might as well come with a badge and gun, eh?

Crap, lets not give them any ideas!

 

[Sectionhand]

Who the hell says you have to tell these a**holes the truth ? If asked I'd give a ficticious list which would include everything from a Musketoon to an M1 Abrams tank and then let the Doc sort things out ! I might even tell him about my hand grenade collection ... That'll put a bug up his a** !

[Libertas]

Crap like this is infuriating isn't it?  On the one hand you want to avoid giving people reason to dick with you, and on the other you want to light the guy up, but he's merely executing a mandate from above, but I would have more respect for them if they woke up and realized this mandate from above comes without any authority to back it up (you know, like the constitution!) and chose instead to just pencil-whip the answer or better yet engage in some civil disobedience and ignore it outright!