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DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« on: January 30, 2025, 08:29:56 AM »


https://nypost.com/2025/01/29/us-news/washington-dc-plane-crash-live-updates/

On early Thursday morning, President Donald Trump wrote on Truth Social:

"The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing, why didn't the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane. This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!"

The military Blackhawk that crashed into an American Airlines flight in Washington, DC was reportedly “FLYING DARK,” per ADSBexchange

The chopper was NOT broadcasting an ADSB signal at the time.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1884812192173731915



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/small-plane-crashes-near-reagan-national-airport-after-fiery-explosion-caught-camera

2 points and comments -

1-Blackhawks are all-weather and flying "dark" to commercial trackers like ADSB

2-Blackhawks have no problem flying at night

The comment by the controller above makes sense...he the helo thought he had the proper plane in sight, yet didn't deviate his track, the ATC should have spoken up to clarify the American track and runway its approaching...

Bad situation, hard hit for families...but I hope it was a ATC error and mis-ID by the helo and not anything worse than that.

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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2025, 11:53:57 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sick-leftists-blame-trump-planechopper-collision

The toxic-left is a disease...

Returning fire...

https://twitter.com/i/status/1885004921868599432

The BS comment when I saw it live just had me fist-pumping!

And to me it's starting to look like an ATC error primarily....and oh boy, if any DEI/sub-standard performers up there...gonna be heck to pay!
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2025, 02:14:25 PM »


They did lower standards to hire more blacks.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/57338
“Are you saying this crash was somehow caused and the result of diversity hiring?”

Trump … kinda
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2025, 04:13:56 PM »
Update (1628ET):

The air traffic control tower at Ronald Reagan National Airport was understaffed at the time of the mid-air collision between a commercial jet and a US Army helicopter that killed 67 people.

CNN cited an aviation insider who said one air traffic controller at Reagan Tower was working two different tower positions at the time.

Here's more:

The source describes the set-up, which had one person handling both local and helicopter traffic, as not uncommon.

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The Reagan National control tower is 85 percent staffed, the source said, with 24 of 28 positions filled.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1885017228958986276

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/small-plane-crashes-near-reagan-national-airport-after-fiery-explosion-caught-camera
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2025, 08:26:39 AM »
OK, well...we should have taken Trump's hints in the presser...

I was hoping there was no nefarious angle to this story...appears there could be...

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2525744/trans-pilot-jo-ellis-rumored-to-be-black-hawk-pilot-in-fatal-collision-over-potomac-river


If this proves to be correct, it does not remove any understaffed/underqualified/DEI issues of the ATC's
...it just means there is a darker disturbing primary cause here...  I think protocol going forward in such situations will be including the possible authorization to the other party in an immanent collision to abort and perform an emergency maneuver to evade.

A speculative wrinkle from a post at WRSA@GAB -




One of his questions above hints at a possible motive (who was on the plane)...another question in light of the first article if it proves to be accurate (or not) that that person was piloting...is what would the DeepState motive be to do this?  ON the one hand this seems to vindicate Trump's DEI concern if the ID of the pilot matches...on the other if that person is not the pilot the motive would have to match the guys questions above about who was on the plane.  Also, if piloted why did the other two onboard not act if something looked horribly off?

Anyway, between ATC, helo crew and plane passenger list...lot's to unpack...
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2025, 09:10:54 AM »
If it were a tranny basically turning himself into a suicide bomber, the shizzle is about to get real. 
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2025, 09:23:24 AM »
If true, yeah...everything else gets overwhelmed by the great DEI fight and it's on like Donkey Kong.
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2025, 01:21:22 PM »
I remember this stuff on ATC when Obama lowered the standards.

https://youtu.be/7eWMkZ44HtU

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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2025, 02:10:07 PM »
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Ellis, who served in the Virginia National Guard for 15 years, is reported to have transitioned while serving as a pilot. Some online sources have also suggested that Ellis had been open about her struggles with gender dysphoria and depression, with one report claiming she had written about these issues just one day before the crash.
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2025, 07:16:36 PM »

Not sure of exact numbers but helicopter was to be at 200 ft but was closer to 400.
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2025, 08:57:07 PM »

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🇺🇸 The female Black Hawk helicopter pilot from the crash in Washington, Captain Rebecca Lobach, was not named until her social media was cleaned … so it seems.

She was Biden’s aide.

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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2025, 10:34:43 AM »
Yah...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/army-releases-statement-family-capt-rebecca-lobach-third/

...not the tranny...just a female...

...and typically for commercial pilots 1000-1500 hours is considered experienced for helo's...EMS/aerial firefighting 2000-2500 and the latter considered for most roles as "experienced"...

So, in this case...not super experienced, we don't know if NVG use was in play (could cause limited vision/no peripheral...can cause flaring when encountering light sources that could be momentarily disorienting)...and combined with ATC issues might be more of a combined failure...

Plus, if training for a "continuity of government" VIP transport...the experience level here for the busy Potomac traffic may not have been adequate for a night op...

However, this may or may not be material...it could be that they merely want to shut down reaction posts and avoid the ad hom hits...or it could be there is unflatering posts by the deceased...

Only a wayback machine grab if done will tell...

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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2025, 12:37:24 PM »
And another demonazi liar caught lying....

Joe Biden’s failed Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg blamed President Trump for the helicopter-plane collision near Reagan Airport.

An American Airlines flight carrying approximately 64 souls collided with a Blackhawk helicopter near Washington D.C. Reagan National Airport (DCA) last Wednesday evening.

All 67 people perished.

Buttigieg blamed Trump even though there have been aviation staffing shortages for years. 285 of the 313 air traffic control facilities are dealing with staffing shortages.

The FAA turned away 1,000 air traffic controller applicants because of Marxist DEI policies, but Buttigieg blamed the crash on Trump.

“They can’t spin this away. The Trump administration contacted air traffic controllers, offering buyouts to leave their jobs. It’s a very easily proven fact,” Buttigieg said.

This is a lie. Air traffic controllers were NOT ELIGIBLE for Trump’s buyout offer.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/buttigieg-roasted-blaming-helicopter-plane-collision-near-reagan/
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2025, 05:21:49 PM »

Says the ADSB system was turned off for no good reason. It tracked lt and speed more accurately.
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🇺🇸Sen. Ted Cruz:
“The Army Blackhawk helicopter was flying with its safety systems turned off.”
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2025, 07:40:24 AM »
They fly all over metropolitan areas without transmitting...I've seen it literally hundreds of times...I find it difficult to believe Cruz is ignorant of this fact..

Is Cruz trying to get the Pentagon to cough up more details it wishes not to?   ::whatgives::
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2025, 01:16:16 PM »
Well, sure...the NY Slimes buries this pertinent fact until the end of their story!   ::outrage::

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https://x.com/sav_says_/status/1916534134022844684?t=bekaHDGKohPASXwORkcgiA&s=01

Death by toxic-leftist mansplaining angst?!   ::facepalm::
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2025, 01:30:53 PM »
like trying to explain something to your wife
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2025, 01:55:53 PM »
...but with a tragic loss of lives...
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Re: DC Blackhawk-American mid-air collision looks like it should have been avoided
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2025, 05:37:55 PM »

Also the MSM IDed her as the "third soldier" not as the pilot until recently.

https://youtu.be/x7kXWj4pOOU
DC Helicopter/Airliner Crash: Shocking Pilot Error Details Covered Up By Military!
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