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Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« on: February 25, 2011, 08:04:22 AM »
So this will be the strategy of the man who wants the GOP nomination: A takeover of the health care system is OK at the state level as a states rights issue, and ObamaCare™ must be repealed so the states can exercise their power to enact whatever health care system they choose.

I think it's a ridiculous non-starter, and symptomatic of the kind of spin that makes people nervous about Romney in the first place. And I think I cannot think of anything I'd care to witness less than a rhetorical battle in the press between Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee.

From National Journal...

Aide: Romney 'Proud' of Massachusetts Health Care Overhaul

Offering a sneak peak of the 2012 Republican primary, a spokesman for former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney on Thursday defended the sweeping health insurance overhaul that Romney helped enact in Massachusetts in response to criticism from former and possibly future presidential rival Mike Huckabee.

“Mitt Romney is proud of what he accomplished for Massachusetts in getting everyone covered,’’ said Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom. “What's important now is to return to the states the power to determine their own health care solutions by repealing Obamacare. A one-size-fits-all plan for the entire nation just doesn't work.''

Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas, is currently touring the country to promote his new book, A Simple Government. "Ever since the debate over [the national health care] program began, it’s been compared to 'RomneyCare,' the failed statewide health care program implemented by none other than my fellow GOP member Mitt Romney when he was governor of Massachusetts,” Huckabee writes in the book. “Any critical assessment of this program will show that it failed … and yet the Obama administration decided to emulate it in its pursuit of a national health care program.”

Both Romney’s plan and the legislation signed by President Obama's watch require most people to buy insurance—a so-called “individual mandate’’ that has become a key target for conservatives. Romney has argued that it’s appropriate for the states but not the federal government to regular[sic] health care and joined his party leaders in calling for the repeal of “Obamacare.”

Though neither Romney nor Huckabee have officially declared plans to run for president in 2012, the rivalry between the 2008 competitors is clearly not over. In an interview with National Journal on Wednesday, Huckabee was asked if he would back Romney if he was the nominee. In a less than rousing endorsement, Huckabee promised to be a “good soldier’’ and back Romney.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 08:26:30 AM »
"The Fourth Estate is less honorable than the First Profession."

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 09:52:38 AM »
 ::hysterical::

Is Mitt or Huck in the sh!thouse?

Both?

 ::whoohoo::

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 05:09:58 PM »
If these words ever actually come out of Romney's mouth...he's done for.
He is in my mind anyway, but he'll get pummeled w/ this issue and at some point, 'qualify' and walk back his pride in his accomplishment.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 06:20:33 PM »
This is pathetic.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 06:46:22 PM »
This is pathetic.

It really is f**king weak-sauce. You can almost hear Jon Lovitz saying, "Yeah, it's ahhh... it's ahhhh... states rights issue... yeah, that's the ticket."
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 06:51:23 PM »
Yeah next thing Mitt will be telling us about his wife...uhh....Morgan Fairchild. Yeahhh
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 06:56:41 PM »
He decides ti test fire a balloon and this is what he comes up with. ::falldownshocked:: ::gaah::


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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 10:08:00 AM »
Romney is not on my "A" list. He is not invited to the wedding.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 10:17:51 AM »
Romney is not on my "A" list. He is not invited to the wedding.

Ya know, dammit, I'm resolved to vote for whomever is running against Obama. Frackin' Cornelius from Planet of the Apes would make a better President. Palin, Cain, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Barbour, Romney, Huckabee, or whoever else has a shot at the nomination will seem ushered in by a Heavenly Host compared to Obama, and even if they stink, I'll hold my nose and vote for them.

But if the nominee is not a strong conservative with clearly defined positions and principles, they will lose to Obama. Among all the supposed GOP "frontrunners" Romney is the one with the least clearly defined conservative positions and principles, and he will lose the election.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 11:11:12 AM »

I've done a 180, no retreads, no waffles. This cr).(p   has got to stop.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 11:30:24 AM »
Romney is not on my "A" list. He is not invited to the wedding.

Ya know, dammit, I'm resolved to vote for whomever is running against Obama. Frackin' Cornelius from Planet of the Apes would make a better President. Palin, Cain, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Barbour, Romney, Huckabee, or whoever else has a shot at the nomination will seem ushered in by a Heavenly Host compared to Obama, and even if they stink, I'll hold my nose and vote for them.

But if the nominee is not a strong conservative with clearly defined positions and principles, they will lose to Obama. Among all the supposed GOP "frontrunners" Romney is the one with the least clearly defined conservative positions and principles, and he will lose the election.

 I honestly don't see Palin runnig nor Huck,Barbour. Newt?
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 11:31:46 AM »
If Palin doesn't run I will go to the wall for Herman Cain, unless somebody even better jumps in who's not on the radar now.
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2011, 11:31:30 PM »
Romney is not on my "A" list. He is not invited to the wedding.

Ya know, dammit, I'm resolved to vote for whomever is running against Obama. Frackin' Cornelius from Planet of the Apes would make a better President. Palin, Cain, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Barbour, Romney, Huckabee, or whoever else has a shot at the nomination will seem ushered in by a Heavenly Host compared to Obama, and even if they stink, I'll hold my nose and vote for them.

But if the nominee is not a strong conservative with clearly defined positions and principles, they will lose to Obama. Among all the supposed GOP "frontrunners" Romney is the one with the least clearly defined conservative positions and principles, and he will lose the election.

I said he wasn't on my "A" list.....If I must hold my nose, I'd pull the lever for him. If it were anyone but Obama, I might consider just not voting, but he is literally destroying this nation and my kid is gonna live a lot longer than me....so, omg, it is for the children....

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 12:20:33 AM »
Romney is not on my "A" list. He is not invited to the wedding.

Ya know, dammit, I'm resolved to vote for whomever is running against Obama. Frackin' Cornelius from Planet of the Apes would make a better President. Palin, Cain, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Barbour, Romney, Huckabee, or whoever else has a shot at the nomination will seem ushered in by a Heavenly Host compared to Obama, and even if they stink, I'll hold my nose and vote for them.

But if the nominee is not a strong conservative with clearly defined positions and principles, they will lose to Obama. Among all the supposed GOP "frontrunners" Romney is the one with the least clearly defined conservative positions and principles, and he will lose the election.

I said he wasn't on my "A" list.....If I must hold my nose, I'd pull the lever for him. If it were anyone but Obama, I might consider just not voting, but he is literally destroying this nation and my kid is gonna live a lot longer than me....so, omg, it is for the children....

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2011, 12:45:37 AM »
Yeah, well, NOPE, I'm not doing the holding my nose and doing it thingie again.  Sorry, but no.

Get someone on the Anti-Duh Wun side worth voting for, with a conservative resume other than "Not Obama" and I'll consider it.  Otherwise look in the mirror at the reason for why the entire thing went straight and swiftly into the shtter at 2012.

Sick of this sht.

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2011, 01:37:50 AM »
Yeah, well, NOPE, I'm not doing the holding my nose and doing it thingie again.  Sorry, but no.

Get someone on the Anti-Duh Wun side worth voting for, with a conservative resume other than "Not Obama" and I'll consider it.  Otherwise look in the mirror at the reason for why the entire thing went straight and swiftly into the shtter at 2012.

Sick of this sht.

And try to guilt me over your failings, and there will be terminations with extreme prejudice to boot.

I am right there with you. I will have a very hard time voting for another RINO. I supported JD Hayworth against McCain in the senate primary, because even though he had his flaws, McCain needed to go.

I don't like Romney or Huckabee. I want a real conservative to vote for. At first I thought Mitch Daniels was okay, but I am now of the opinion he's another RINO, and he can take his "truce on social issues" and shove it!

Back to Romney, you folks are right. The word for his defense of socialized Mass. medicine is "pathetic."

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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2011, 01:42:48 AM »
...At first I thought Mitch Daniels was okay, but I am now of the opinion he's another RINO, and he can take his "truce on social issues" and shove it!...

I'm with you there Janny. He's done an admirable job as governor of Indiana, and I give him credit. But as he's prepping the field for a possible run for President, he's sending all the wrong signals - the "truce" BS being the first of many. He's playing politics - trying to be everything to everyone, and say just the right things to be non-offensive - in a time when the voters on the Right and the center want authenticity.

ETA: Pawlenty's doing the same thing too. I think both guys could be good Presidents, and reasonably conservative - definitely the most conservative President since Reagan; Daniels maybe even more so than Pawlenty. But they way they are entering the room is just... unattractive... and if they think the road to the nomination requires playing down their conservatism, then they will not be the nominee - or if they are, it would not surprise me to see a third party nominee that garners more votes than the Republican, guaranteeing Obama a 2nd term.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2011, 10:21:24 AM »
Janny (Hi, BTW!) and Pan and I are like-minded! I will not vote for another RINO. I'd rather have obama take full blame for what may come. And it's comin'! Any R getting in will just be used as a poster-boy (or girl) by the  libiots as to why the R brand is disastrous for the country, even though we'd know better. Some won't.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2011, 10:23:14 AM »
Romney is not on my "A" list. He is not invited to the wedding.

Ya know, dammit, I'm resolved to vote for whomever is running against Obama. Frackin' Cornelius from Planet of the Apes would make a better President. Palin, Cain, Pawlenty, Gingrich, Barbour, Romney, Huckabee, or whoever else has a shot at the nomination will seem ushered in by a Heavenly Host compared to Obama, and even if they stink, I'll hold my nose and vote for them.

But if the nominee is not a strong conservative with clearly defined positions and principles, they will lose to Obama. Among all the supposed GOP "frontrunners" Romney is the one with the least clearly defined conservative positions and principles, and he will lose the election.

I remember in '06 and '07 how increasingly vocal I became when it came to finding and supporting a candidate for prez. Remember how romney and juliani were touted as early favorites? And everyone kept looking at each other and asking, "Did you suggest this guy? I know that I didn't!"

Over and over "someone" kept pushing marginal, moderate, mushy pubbies our way. We kept pushing them away saying, "No thanks, I'd prefer a conservative".

They would push someone like romney or hucklebee in our faces and say, "See, this guy is just what you ordered" "Conservative all the way" "Trust me".

My early favorite was Duncan Hunter. If you were looking for a smart administrator with loads of common sense and a conservative perspective, he would do admirably. If you were looking for the stylish "rock star" you needed to look to a bozo like Øbongo.

But I saw almost immediately that no matter how able or outstanding a job Hunter would do, we would never know because he didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of being elected. He simply failed on the runway walk.

I've always admired Fred Thompson and when he announced that he might announce that he was thinking of announcing, I became caught up in the "Yea, why not?" wagon train. More like a train wreck. Enough of that!

One by one the conservatives fell away or were swept away by the sheer weight of the good ol boy network. Until they announced "our" champion - John McCain. Boy wasn't that a kick in the breadbasket! I had more enthusiasm voting for Bob Dole! Actually that isn't completely true.

I vowed not to vote at all. I had this quaint notion about my vote counting for something and too important to waste on foolish or frivolous things. Sarah Palin brought me back. If not for her I would not have cast a ballot in '08. There was no way that I was wasting my vote on Capt. Queeg!

And when Queeg floundered, and he and his motley crew tried to pull Sarah under with him I renewed my vow, "Nevermore!"

So I restate my pledge, my vow, my promise to the Republican party - "Send me a conservative that I can vote for or do not expect a vote from me." I will sit it out.

My pantry is full. My locker is stocked. I have provisioned myself for the worst. I know that only a strong conservative can rectify the problems we have (romney and huck need not apply). If we do not get a conservative we will slip off the edge - there is no other forecast, no other option, no other fate for us.

My expectation, based on what I've seen so far, is that (and I mean this in the nicest possible way) we are doomed. The left entered into an unholy alliance with Øbongo & Co. and are committed. The GOP is dithering and equivocating and wussing out as usual.

Pardon me....I've got to get back to work on my bunker...