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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2011, 03:41:27 PM »
You may be right IDP, but if another RINO gets the GOP nomination, you're making a big assumption they can beat Obama.  I can only see a candidate unafraid of confronting pure evil doing what it takes to beat back the Obamazombies.  And there are precious few that can fill that bill.  Another RINO nominee could set in motion a premature third party candidacy.  I can only sympathize with the latter, since such a large segment of conservatives have had it with the same old wishy-washy crap.  And I say premature in that I just don't think there is enough time, even if they start now, to launch a third party...there is just no room for error in fixing this nation peacefully.  That's just how I say it.  Realistically, had Palin not been chosen by McCain there is no way in hell I would have ever pulled the lever for him in '08.  And if Palin had instead chosen to carry an independent banner, I would have followed that flag instead...and perhaps that could have laid a better foundation for a third party run in '12 ala Reagan in '76.  So in hindsight, perhaps the chance of a viable third party option has already passed.  And if the GOP screws it up this time around...I think we are only fooling ourselves if we think we can survive another trip back across the Styx.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2011, 04:23:01 PM »
You may be right IDP, but if another RINO gets the GOP nomination, you're making a big assumption they can beat Obama....

OH NO! I don't assume it or even dare to hope it Libertas. I really think the only hope of beating Obama is to nominate the anti-Obama. All I'm saying is that God forbid a RINO is the nominee, I still find the prospect of conservatives banding together once more under the GOP banner an idea that is not without supporting logic.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2011, 04:31:31 PM »
You may be right IDP, but if another RINO gets the GOP nomination, you're making a big assumption they can beat Obama....

OH NO! I don't assume it or even dare to hope it Libertas. I really think the only hope of beating Obama is to nominate the anti-Obama. All I'm saying is that God forbid a RINO is the nominee, I still find the prospect of conservatives banding together once more under the GOP banner an idea that is not without supporting logic.

I gotchya.  But I have to think finding enthusiastic support under such a banner problematic, so I'll respectfully disagree on the nature of the supporting logic behind it.  It basically is the same Faustian bargain the Ruling Class keeps taunting us with - "What are ya gonna do?  Not vote and let Obama win?".  Not exactly the kind of rallying cry designed to win much support.  So instead of offering the RC their get-out-of-jail-free card and let them blame us right-wing extremists for handing Obama another victory laurel, the debate needs to return to what We the People demand, and will hold the party accountable for if they fail to act on our will, and let the blood be on their hands should they screw the pooch!
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2011, 04:37:19 PM »
You may be right IDP, but if another RINO gets the GOP nomination, you're making a big assumption they can beat Obama....

OH NO! I don't assume it or even dare to hope it Libertas. I really think the only hope of beating Obama is to nominate the anti-Obama. All I'm saying is that God forbid a RINO is the nominee, I still find the prospect of conservatives banding together once more under the GOP banner an idea that is not without supporting logic.

I gotchya.  But I have to think finding enthusiastic support under such a banner problematic, so I'll respectfully disagree on the nature of the supporting logic behind it.  It basically is the same Faustian bargain the Ruling Class keeps taunting us with - "What are ya gonna do?  Not vote and let Obama win?".  Not exactly the kind of rallying cry designed to win much support.  So instead of offering the RC their get-out-of-jail-free card and let them blame us right-wing extremists for handing Obama another victory laurel, the debate needs to return to what We the People demand, and will hold the party accountable for if they fail to act on our will, and let the blood be on their hands should they screw the pooch!

Valid points all. I can't argue against them with anything I haven't already said.
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Re: Romney Aide: Mitt's "Proud" of RomneyCare™
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2011, 04:40:02 PM »
You may be right IDP, but if another RINO gets the GOP nomination, you're making a big assumption they can beat Obama....

OH NO! I don't assume it or even dare to hope it Libertas. I really think the only hope of beating Obama is to nominate the anti-Obama. All I'm saying is that God forbid a RINO is the nominee, I still find the prospect of conservatives banding together once more under the GOP banner an idea that is not without supporting logic.

I gotchya.  But I have to think finding enthusiastic support under such a banner problematic, so I'll respectfully disagree on the nature of the supporting logic behind it.  It basically is the same Faustian bargain the Ruling Class keeps taunting us with - "What are ya gonna do?  Not vote and let Obama win?".  Not exactly the kind of rallying cry designed to win much support.  So instead of offering the RC their get-out-of-jail-free card and let them blame us right-wing extremists for handing Obama another victory laurel, the debate needs to return to what We the People demand, and will hold the party accountable for if they fail to act on our will, and let the blood be on their hands should they screw the pooch!

Valid points all. I can't argue against them with anything I haven't already said.

I just really really really hope they don't put us in that situation.  I really fear what it could mean.  Cross fingers, work hard to avoid it and of course lots of  ::praying::  ::praying::  ::praying:: !
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