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Italy has issues, roiled the markets yesterday. A decade of high unemployment and zero growth will do that...and a 120% debt ratio!
Not me running...the market...they got spooked! I'm just stating the reason is all...Oh, and escape is not fully possible, when we are deep in bed with many of these troubled Euro banks...so...
Italy worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot!
Quote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:17:48 AMItaly worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot! Not that it will ever happen but Sicilians never gave up on that.Just as an aside most Sicilians don't consider themselves Italians and vice versa.
Quote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 09:42:38 AMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:17:48 AMItaly worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot! Not that it will ever happen but Sicilians never gave up on that.Just as an aside most Sicilians don't consider themselves Italians and vice versa.If I were Sicilian I think would be more than OK with that!
Quote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 11:24:31 AMQuote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 09:42:38 AMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:17:48 AMItaly worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot! Not that it will ever happen but Sicilians never gave up on that.Just as an aside most Sicilians don't consider themselves Italians and vice versa.If I were Sicilian I think would be more than OK with that! Northern Italians always considered us hicks and we always considered them azzholes.
Quote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 03:05:16 PMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 11:24:31 AMQuote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 09:42:38 AMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:17:48 AMItaly worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot! Not that it will ever happen but Sicilians never gave up on that.Just as an aside most Sicilians don't consider themselves Italians and vice versa.If I were Sicilian I think would be more than OK with that! Northern Italians always considered us hicks and we always considered them azzholes.Sounds familiar. Don't mean to go off topic, perhaps this is better answered in the Food section, but how does Sicilian food differ from mainland cuisine? I guess both like pasta and such, is it mostly sauce flavorings and the like that are different?
Quote from: Libertas on August 04, 2011, 07:12:17 AMQuote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 03:05:16 PMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 11:24:31 AMQuote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 09:42:38 AMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:17:48 AMItaly worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot! Not that it will ever happen but Sicilians never gave up on that.Just as an aside most Sicilians don't consider themselves Italians and vice versa.If I were Sicilian I think would be more than OK with that! Northern Italians always considered us hicks and we always considered them azzholes.Sounds familiar. Don't mean to go off topic, perhaps this is better answered in the Food section, but how does Sicilian food differ from mainland cuisine? I guess both like pasta and such, is it mostly sauce flavorings and the like that are different? It's changed over the years but when I was there one of the huge differences that you would see was butter,in the north and olive oil in the south biggest reason was regions . The had dairy cattle we had olives.Refrigeration wasn't even that common in the south and that was the late 50s. As a matter of fact my grand father was the first to get a fridge only because he had the money to pay the power company to run a line from the main drag to his street and to his house and buy a fridge. Soon after there were more houses with electricity because they could hook up to the line he had to pay for if he wanted a fridge and electric lights. That in it's self may seem strange to most people here butthe real strange part was that he only kept what was going to be the meal of the day and water in it under lock and key. So even with all that expense my grandmother still shopped every day.
Quote from: John Florida on August 04, 2011, 09:40:22 AMQuote from: Libertas on August 04, 2011, 07:12:17 AMQuote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 03:05:16 PMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 11:24:31 AMQuote from: John Florida on August 03, 2011, 09:42:38 AMQuote from: Libertas on August 03, 2011, 07:17:48 AMItaly worsens - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/summarizing-collapse-italian-banking-sector-one-chart?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+zerohedge%2Ffeed+%28zero+hedge+-+on+a+long+enough+timeline%2C+the+survival+rate+for+everyone+drops+to+zero%29Maybe we could save Sicily, there was an attempt (not a serious one, more driven by Sicilians than Americans) to make it a territory after WWII. I bet given the choice they'd rather join us than go down with the boot! Not that it will ever happen but Sicilians never gave up on that.Just as an aside most Sicilians don't consider themselves Italians and vice versa.If I were Sicilian I think would be more than OK with that! Northern Italians always considered us hicks and we always considered them azzholes.Sounds familiar. Don't mean to go off topic, perhaps this is better answered in the Food section, but how does Sicilian food differ from mainland cuisine? I guess both like pasta and such, is it mostly sauce flavorings and the like that are different? It's changed over the years but when I was there one of the huge differences that you would see was butter,in the north and olive oil in the south biggest reason was regions . The had dairy cattle we had olives.Refrigeration wasn't even that common in the south and that was the late 50s. As a matter of fact my grand father was the first to get a fridge only because he had the money to pay the power company to run a line from the main drag to his street and to his house and buy a fridge. Soon after there were more houses with electricity because they could hook up to the line he had to pay for if he wanted a fridge and electric lights. That in it's self may seem strange to most people here butthe real strange part was that he only kept what was going to be the meal of the day and water in it under lock and key. So even with all that expense my grandmother still shopped every day.I have nothing against butter but olive oil is healthier and pretty versatile. Your grandfather sounds like a character, I bet there are more stories about him!