Topic: Breaking News: Explosion Shatters Norwegian Capital

[Glock32]

I had much the same take on that, rickl. This is the inevitable reaction to having one's entire culture, history, folkways, and nation taken away and replaced with the "cosmopolitan" prescription that is only universal to white, Western countries. The only missing ingredient for years has been these individuals' assessment of what's left to lose. There will indeed be more of this sort of thing.

[IronDioPriest]

Wow. I downloaded and have glanced at the manifesto. No, I haven’t read all 1500+ pages, and probably never will.

This man is in no way insane. What he did was commit a cold-blooded, conscious, premeditated act of war against the Norwegian ruling class. Those are the people who are responsible for opening the floodgates for Muslim immigration.

He deliberately targeted and exterminated the next generation of Socialist leaders of that country. That was what the “youth camp” was all about: The children of the elites were being groomed to take their “rightful place” in the leadership.

Yep, we’ll be seeing more of this sort of thing, all right. And of course the elites will crack down even harder on any kind of dissent.

World Civil War I, folks. Get used to it.

Dozens of excellent comments, as usual, at Belmont Club.

So, it appears that someone - albeit not an American - has come to the same conclusion as many of us have here: that the Left is the primary cause of the proliferation of evil in the world, and that there is little to no hope of reconciliation.

Is this simply an inevitable manifestation of the coming conflict?

I always ask, when people start polishing their guns, "Who exactly are you gonna shoot?" It appears that this man identified a target: the Leftist government, and a Leftist indoctrination camp for socialist youth.

How do we feel about this? The easy answer is, "terrorism against the innocent is never legitimate". I've said it hundreds if not thousands of times myself, and I believe it - at least morally. I abhor terrorism. But I'm willing to contemplate the unthinkable as I explore my own thoughts on the matter.

If things pan out that this was really an attack against the Leftist establishment by a patriotic Norwegian who could not stand to stand by and watch his country crumble without acting definitively, I'm not so sure the lines of good and evil regarding terrorism are as Black and White as my past rhetoric indicates. It's one thing to rail against terrorism when it is committed against what one perceives as "good". It's another thing to be faced with the exact same act committed against what one perceives as "evil". I consider Leftism to be evil - the greatest enabler of evil on planet earth.

Just thinking out loud, not drawing conclusions.

[rickl]

Civil wars tend to be very messy in an ethical sense.  And bloody.

[Libertas]

We can see what the left has been up to for decades and how the whole multi-culti/diversity/pc cultists have eroded traditional national identity and how it has made the soft-terrorism/conversion of the West for the Muzzies easier to sow its malicious seed.  But in any inevitable conflict control of the narrative will shape the nature of the conflict, who is viewed as the aggressor and perhaps help determine the final outcome.  The problem with this Brevig case to me comes down to it appearing to be an easier sale for the left to blame the conflict on their enemies.  After so many kids have been gunned down how much of a receptive audience is there going to be for people blaming this on leftists and their surrender to Muzzies?  At the start of any conflict it is almost always worse for the aggressors...who draws first blood.  If a similar situation arises here I would prefer our enemies to act first.

[rickl]

Well, looky here, from Ann Barnhardt:

MANIFESTO AS FAKE AS OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
POSTED BY ANN BARNHARDT - JULY 26, AD 2011 10:35 AM MST

This is starting to come into focus - just a bit. The Norwegian murderer's "manifesto" is pretty much a 1500 page cut-and-paste job. Lots of word-for-word plagiarism. It appears that it may have been constructed quoting from multiple folks in the anti-jihad movement in order to then "implicate", or at least damn-by-implied-association people who obviously had nothing to do with the Norwegian Nutter.

This was sent to me by reader L last night.

Click here and read "Sagunto's" multiple citations.

Great work there by "Sagunto". Finding plagiarism (if that is the correct term for this) really isn't that difficult. Here is how you do it. Find a sentence or phrase in an essay that is relatively unique in composition. For example, the sentence I just wrote above:

"It appears to me that it may have been constructed quoting from multiple folks in the anti-jihad movement in order to then "implicate", or at least damn-by-implied-association people who obviously had nothing to do with the Norwegian Nutter.

In the entire history of humanity and the English language, those words have NEVER been assembled in that order ever before. Therefore, one can do a simple google or other search engine search on that sentence by putting quotation marks around it in the search engine entry field. This will yield EXACT match results. So, with Brevik's manifesto, all one need do is pull out unique sentences, or even just phrases, and do a search on them. Any matches will pop right up.

It seems to me that if Brevik was an insane "philosopher" like the Unabomber, he would be all about writing his own stuff. Writing your own stuff is kinda the point for philosophers - both the sane and the insane. The Brevik "manifesto" seems to be more of a contrived "smoking gun" specifically designed to implicate prominent names in the anti-jihad movement. And that is exactly what they are doing. They have already gone after Geert Wilders, Pamela Geller (from Atlas Shrugs), the guys and girls over at GatesofVienna.blogspot.com and Robert Spencer to name just a few.

And yes, even I have an anti-gun propagandist who is tasked with "smearing" me on the internet. He doesn't get much traction, but he sure tries! About all he can do is call me "crazy" over and over and over again, but sure enough, within hours of the Norwegian attacks, he made a post calling me "America's Brevik". Now, you might be thinking that this is no big deal and I certainly do take this guy with a grain of salt, but there is one aspect to this that bears note, and I think perhaps ties back to the phenomenon of the constructed Brevik manifesto and the immediate attempts to smear anti-jihad authors. This propagandist assigned to me? He works and runs his blog out of the United Nations World Food Programme office in Rome. No kidding. The kind gent at the following link sent me a heads up back in February when he saw the U.N. blogger's first post about me. The U.N. blogger's handle is Mikeb302000. Copy and paste the URL below to see both IP address proof AND Mikeb302000's own admission of his location and employment.

http://serr8d.blogspot.com/2010/11/mikeb302000-anti-gun-blogger-is-united.html

Can you now see why I view all of this Norway stuff with extreme suspicion? I already personally know that the U.N. pays people (with OUR tax dollars, by the way) to act as agents provocateurs against the United States, its Constitution and its citizens. The U.N. wants to disarm Americans via the Small Arms Treaty and has the full cooperation of the Obama/Clinton machine. Operation Fast and Furious was designed and executed to achieve that goal. The U.N. is also deeply anti-Israel and pro-muslim, specifically the Muslim Brotherhood. The Norway mass murder serves practically every U.N. agenda simultaneously. It really is spooky to see how all of this stuff is connected, and you don't need to dig down very far at all to find these connections.

Which will segue into my next post. Why in the hell haven't we withdrawn and evicted the U.N. from American soil . . . ?

I hope this tidbit of info helps.

http://barnhardt.biz/

[Pandora]

Knew it.  Made to order as the left's wet-dream mischaracterization of the right.

Something stinks in Norway.

[Glock32]

You can also count on the "gun ownership in Scandinavia is high compared to the rest of Europe" angle.

[trapeze]

Check out this story (with incredible photo) of one of the bombing victims.

Spike through head for real.

[John Florida]

I bet you folding money that I could sell guns to all the survivors on that Island and their parent now.

[trapeze]

Good luck with that, JF.

I would have bet good money that Jews would never support abortion on demand (as promoted by the left). I would have bet good money that Jews would never support a party that hates Israel and abhor a party that does.

In both cases I would have lost my shirt.

That's because liberalism is a religious faith for leftists.

So that goes for the Norwegians, too.

The funny thing is that leftists are big on Darwin. Natural selection. Survival of the fittest and all that stuff. And yet, they will deny themselves the means of self preservation over leftist ideology every single time. Kind of funny in that, given enough time, they will stop contributing to the gene pool and make themselves extinct rather than adapt to their environment.

Too bad that they insist on taking everyone else on their demented trip to oblivion.

[Libertas]

"Too bad that they insist on taking everyone else on their demented trip to oblivion."

Seeing this thesis proved time and again is beyond infuriating.  The species is consciously choosing self-termination.  If just one permit-carry adult was present, this bastard would have been dropped in his tracks.  But societal ignorance marches one....