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Wisconsin??
« on: August 09, 2011, 09:41:37 PM »
Anybody hear anything??I haven't been watching TV.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 09:43:31 PM »
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2 of the 6 have been called in favor of the GOP.  It does look like Kapanke will lose his seat.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 09:45:14 PM »
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2 of the 6 have been called in favor of the GOP.  It does look like Kapanke will lose his seat.

 Aren't the dems being recalled too??
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 09:46:40 PM »
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2 of the 6 have been called in favor of the GOP.  It does look like Kapanke will lose his seat.

 Aren't the dems being recalled too??

Theirs is in ten days.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 10:07:47 PM »
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2 of the 6 have been called in favor of the GOP.  It does look like Kapanke will lose his seat.

 Aren't the dems being recalled too??

Theirs is in ten days.

But for some reason, only 2 Dems are facing recall elections. Not sure why that is, when they were the bastards who fled the state. You'd think every last one of them would face a recall.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2011, 07:18:31 AM »
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2 of the 6 have been called in favor of the GOP.  It does look like Kapanke will lose his seat.

 Aren't the dems being recalled too??

Theirs is in ten days.

But for some reason, only 2 Dems are facing recall elections. Not sure why that is, when they were the bastards who fled the state. You'd think every last one of them would face a recall.

I know, we just don't play by the same rules as our damned enemies!

Anyway, here's a link on the contests -

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_0eab6966-c2a9-11e0-a206-001cc4c03286.html

I'm really happy Harsdorf succeeded.  Her district covers my folks place at the lake, and I know they and many in the area supported her.  The stinking demonrat Moore ran some of the dumbest ad's I've ever heard, and they swamped our TV/Raido market in the Twin Cities because of station reach into Western Wisconsin.  Moore had all the union money behind her and I am so glad she went down in flames.  I hope the union money pissed away hurts those bastards as much as the political loss!
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2011, 07:56:12 AM »
Holding the Wisconsin senate is great news, especially since the seats were threatened because they took a strong conservative stance. Even though 2 pubbies lost, this shows that the people are paying attention, even in a blue-state, union, political cesspool like Wisconsin. And there is a strong possibility that the GOP picks up a seat next week in the recall of the 2 Dem fleebaggers. Only losing one seat in a recall based on such a strong thrust by all the might of the commie labor movement will be a thorough repudiation of their position. More importantly, it is an affirmation of the conservative agenda in Wisconsin, which is a good snapshot of what is going on all across the country as the stakes become clear to the American people.

They wanted to make the stakes national, and now they'll have to live with the implications.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2011, 08:30:01 AM »
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In the end, the union-backed Democrats picked up only two state Senate seats in Wisconsin last night, at a staggering cost in time, effort, and of course money. One of the seats was solidly Democratic, held by a Republican due to an apparent fluke of nature. The other was held by an alleged adulterer who had moved outside his district to live with his young mistress, and whose wife was supporting his recall.

As for the other four Republican incumbents the unions tried to recall, they didn't end up coming very close. And remember -- these weren't just any Republican incumbents. These were the ones that the unions judged most vulnerable, which is why they collected petition signatures against them.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2011, 08:31:55 AM »
As I understand it, the dims spent exponentially more compared to the pubbies. Obscene amounts of money. Never let a dhimmi tell you that there isn't enough money for programs - they're rolling in it.


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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2011, 08:33:31 AM »

The voting bodes well for the Conservative movement.


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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2011, 08:42:24 AM »
Ed Morrissey at HotAir:

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Translation: in a straight-up race, Republicans win in Wisconsin these days.  It doesn’t help these progressive activists that Walker and the GOP produced the best budget proposal in 15 years, and that the PEU reform has already begun to save Milwaukee $11 million this year and much more across the state.  It also doesn’t help Democrats to have President Obama “leading” us into a credit downgrade, massive deficits, and no apparent plan to pull us out of the economic stagnation his policies have produced.

Re: Spending on the race, he cites a WaPo article that claims the Republicans actually had a slight edge in money with Club For Growth and Americans For Prosperity matching union spending.

If the second recall election produces even one win for the Republicans then it's going to be kind of hard to call WI a blue state anymore. Purple for sure but one could even argue that it has turned red.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2011, 08:49:51 AM »
I'd go with purple.  They are a lot like MN, the big cities dominated by leftards, the rural areas more conservative.  Madison & Milwaukee are big-time leftist bastions.  It will only change color if the suburban areas can be purged of morons.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2011, 08:58:15 AM »
And elections have consequences: Redistricting (which they pushed into place just before the recall election) may help with those Democrat strongholds.

But the real story coming out of last night is this: The death of the Tea Party has been greatly exaggerated. Quite the contrary, even after the verbal abuse the Tea Party took in the last two weeks (terrorists and hostage takers), they were still able to wring out a major victory in a traditionally blue state against (at best) mixed odds.

There won't be much said about this in the MFM but you can be assured that last night's results will be discussed in national Democrat circles with not a small amount of dismay, depression and doom. That's because the ultimate result in WI is that Walker's ruling coalition with the legislature will be able to continue their reforms. And those reforms have already shown significant signs of success. I read a statistic in one of the above linked articles that claimed that in June WI accounted for half of all jobs created in the nation. So, yeah, this is a very major defeat for the Democrats regardless of how it is spun in the MFM.
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In a doomsday scenario, hippies will be among the first casualties. So not everything about doomsday will be bad.

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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2011, 09:08:45 AM »
A sample of Democrat/union spin from an AP article:

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Democrats and union leaders tried to make the best of the historic GOP wins. There had been only 13 other successful recalls of state-level office holders nationwide since 1913.

"The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda," said Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate.

Phil Neuenfeldt, president of the Wisconsin State AFL-CIO, said voters sent a message that there is a growing movement to reclaim the middle class.

"Let's be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory," he said.

Cool. Let the Democrats continue to have plenty more of these 2 for 6 "victories." Perhaps he didn't realize just how stupid that statement sounds.
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In a doomsday scenario, hippies will be among the first casualties. So not everything about doomsday will be bad.

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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 09:09:13 AM »
I'd go with purple.  They are a lot like MN, the big cities dominated by leftards, the rural areas more conservative.  Madison & Milwaukee are big-time leftist bastions.  It will only change color if the suburban areas can be purged of morons.

This is a problem nation wide, an urban and rural conservative voting group vs big city cesspool liberal breading ground and support system.  Cutting federal money out of this cycle will reconfigure city voting.


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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2011, 09:56:12 AM »
                    


                  Wisconsin Unions: I spent $14
                     million on a recall election, and
                        all I got was this t-shirt.




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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2011, 10:36:01 AM »
                   


                  Wisconsin Unions: I spent $14
                     million on a recall election, and
                        all I got was this t-shirt.






 It will be ineresting to see how many dems lose their seats.
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2011, 10:52:08 AM »
A sample of Democrat/union spin from an AP article:

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Democrats and union leaders tried to make the best of the historic GOP wins. There had been only 13 other successful recalls of state-level office holders nationwide since 1913.

"The fact of the matter remains that, fighting on Republican turf, we have begun the work of stopping the Scott Walker agenda," said Democratic Party Chairman Mike Tate.

Phil Neuenfeldt, president of the Wisconsin State AFL-CIO, said voters sent a message that there is a growing movement to reclaim the middle class.

"Let's be clear, anyway you slice it, this is an unprecedented victory," he said.

Cool. Let the Democrats continue to have plenty more of these 2 for 6 "victories." Perhaps he didn't realize just how stupid that statement sounds.

unprecedented victory!

 ::hysterical::



That tastes good to you, eh Phil?



 ::hysterical::
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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2011, 10:54:05 AM »
I'd go with purple.  They are a lot like MN, the big cities dominated by leftards, the rural areas more conservative.  Madison & Milwaukee are big-time leftist bastions.  It will only change color if the suburban areas can be purged of morons.

This is a problem nation wide, an urban and rural conservative voting group vs big city cesspool liberal breading ground and support system.  Cutting federal money out of this cycle will reconfigure city voting.



Yeah, it will either reconfigure voting or lead to the zombie apocalypse...either way, it works for me!

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Re: Wisconsin??
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2011, 12:00:19 PM »
Epic fail.  #NotWinning

The democrats didn't even have the guts to run on the very issue they were trying to recall senators for, and that was to protect the excessive benefits of state union workers.

Union influence nation-wide just took a very big hit.  They act like thugs when they don't get their way, and now the Verizon union members are sabatoging their own cables.  Talk about sh*tting where you eat.  Stupid morons.