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Can We Save Labor Day? (Happy Labor Day All!)
« on: September 05, 2011, 08:23:51 AM »
By Danny Tyree

Labor Day isn't what it used to be.

Parades are less prominent, Jerry Lewis has been ousted from the MDA Telethon, summer weather seems to drag into mid-October and even the "no white after Labor Day" fashion dogma has crumbled.

And our day-to-day lives have made the once-great notion of a day honoring the working people of America a farce....

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 08:29:16 AM »
Happy commie labor day everone!
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 11:03:23 AM »
Nah, the commie Labor Day is May 1, which is celebrated almost everywhere except the U.S.

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The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York.[1] It was first proposed by Peter J. McGuire of the American Federation of Labor in May 1882 [2]

Oregon was the first state to make it a holiday in 1887. By the time it became a federal holiday in 1894, thirty states officially celebrated Labor Day.[2]. Following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike.[3] The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate.

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International Workers' Day is the commemoration of the 1886 Haymarket Massacre in Chicago, when, after an unknown person threw a dynamite bomb at police as they dispersed a public meeting, Chicago police fired on workers during a general strike for the eight hour workday, killing several demonstrators and resulting in the deaths of several police officers, largely from friendly fire.[1][2][3][4] In 1889, the first congress of the Second International, meeting in Paris for the centennial of the French Revolution and the Exposition Universelle, following a proposal by Raymond Lavigne, called for international demonstrations on the 1890 anniversary of the Chicago protests.[citation needed] May Day was formally recognized as an annual event at the International's second congress in 1891.[citation needed]

Subsequently, the May Day Riots of 1894 occurred. In 1904, the International Socialist Conference meeting in Amsterdam called on "all Social Democratic Party organizations and trade unions of all countries to demonstrate energetically on May First for the legal establishment of the 8-hour day, for the class demands of the proletariat, and for universal peace." The congress made it "mandatory upon the proletarian organizations of all countries to stop work on May 1, wherever it is possible without injury to the workers."[5]

In many countries, the working classes sought to make May Day an official holiday, and their efforts largely succeeded. May Day has long been a focal point for demonstrations by various socialist, communist and anarchist groups. In some circles, bonfires are lit in commemoration of the Haymarket martyrs, usually at dawn.[6] May Day has been an important official holiday in Communist countries such as the People's Republic of China, Cuba and the former Soviet Union.

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In the United States, efforts to officially switch Labor Day to the international date of May 1 have failed. In 1921, following the Russian Revolution of 1917, May 1 was promoted as "Americanization Day" by the Veterans of Foreign Wars and other groups as a counter to communists. It became an annual event, sometimes featuring large rallies. In 1949, Americanization Day was renamed to Loyalty Day. In 1958, Congress declared Loyalty Day a national holiday; that same year, U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower proclaimed May 1 Law Day as well.

So we had it first.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 11:51:11 AM »
So, we had it first, but it's still celebrating communism and commies aka "union labor".
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 12:47:20 PM »
Happy commie labor day everone!



I always consider all the Women who have experienced Labor. Happy Labor Day Ladies!!! ::rimshot::

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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 02:34:16 PM »
Happy commie labor day everone!



I always consider all the Women who have experienced Labor. Happy Labor Day Ladies!!! ::rimshot::


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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 03:01:52 PM »
So, we had it first, but it's still celebrating communism and commies aka "union labor".

Well, you have to put yourself in the place of a 19th century worker.  Many of them worked in factories or mines performing repetitive, mind-numbing, body-destroying work.  The phrase "repetitive motion injury" didn't yet exist.  Many people must have suffered from constant pain and crippling injuries.  They were known as "malingerers".  Yet they had to keep working if they wanted to avoid starvation and homelessness.  There was no shortage of new immigrants fresh off the boat, dead flat broke, and eager to take their jobs.

A primary goal of the early labor unions in the late 19th century was the institution of the eight-hour workday.  That was regarded as extremely radical at the time.  Prior to that there were no limitations on the length of time a factory employee was required to work.  It was cheaper and easier for employers to run two shifts of 12 hours each than three shifts of 8 hours each.  Less down time during shift changes, you know.

Today we take the eight-hour day for granted, but it was not always thus.  So we might take a moment today to thank the early labor unions for that.

I've actually worked in factories, twice, for very brief periods, until I could find something better.  Trust me, eight hours seems like an eternity.  I can't even imagine working in that kind of job for 12 hours a day, every day, year after year, for my whole working life.  It must have been pure hell on earth.

In both cases, if I had lasted past the three-month probationary period, I would have had to join a union.  Both times I found another job elsewhere before I got to that point.

The second factory job I had was working a machine cutting metal slats for Venetian blinds.  I was in my twenties and still very much a leftist.  But I became friends with the woman working the machine next to me.  She was twice my age and married, but she was a very nice lady and we hit it off in a friendly manner.  She was a John Birch Society member and we had many interesting discussions, although we didn't agree on much.  It was many years after that that I finally became a conservative, but I remember her fondly.  I doubt that she ever knew how much influence she had on me.

I've never belonged to a union, and today I work for a small business.  The business owner works longer hours than any of his employees, but that's his choice, and it's not factory work.

This past Friday I spent most of the day working at the bindery machines, binding student handbooks for a local private school.  It was very much like factory work, but it was not typical of the work I do on a day-to-day basis.  I enjoyed it and felt the satisfaction of producing an end product, but I would not want to have to do that all day, every day.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 03:25:01 PM »
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So we might take a moment today to thank the early labor unions for that.

The early labor unions were communist organizations, formed by communists *, on behalf of communists who wanted to enlist the pore&starvin' in their quest to destroy Capitalism.

Did they accomplish some good for "working people"?  They did, but it was a side-effect, not their main purpose, so I'll just refrain from offering thanks; the idea that there is a holiday devoted to them and the "labor" lie they promulgated is sickening. 

They are how we got here:

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Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa had some profane, combative words for Republicans while warming up the crowd for President Obama in Detroit, Michigan on Monday.

"We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They've got a war, they got a war with us and there's only going to be one winner. It's going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We're going to win that war," Jimmy Hoffa Jr. said to a heavily union crowd.

"President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added.

* Foster died on September 1, 1961 in Moscow.[3] The Soviet Union gave him a state funeral in Red Square and Khrushchev headed the honor guards.[6]
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 03:38:53 PM »
Um, it looks like William Z. Foster was one year old when Labor Day was founded in 1882.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2011, 03:58:14 PM »
I think Labor Day has been co-opted by commies/unions rather than them being the impetus for it. Isn't that an accurate assessment?
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2011, 03:59:42 PM »
Um, it looks like William Z. Foster was one year old when Labor Day was founded in 1882.

Yes, he was.  I used him as an example of the communists behind the "labor movement", not that he was responsible for founding the holiday.

You or somebody stuck a link up here on the founding of labor day and how the date here differs from the International one held in May because Cleveland didn't want ours associated with communism.  Bwaha.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 04:00:23 PM »
I think Labor Day has been co-opted by commies/unions rather than them being the impetus for it. Isn't that an accurate assessment?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_day

No.
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2011, 04:02:18 PM »
Um, it looks like William Z. Foster was one year old when Labor Day was founded in 1882.

Yes, he was.  I used him as an example of the communists behind the "labor movement", not that he was responsible for founding the holiday.

You or somebody stuck a link up here on the founding of labor day and how the date here differs from the International one held in May because Cleveland didn't want ours associated with communism.  Bwaha.


Are you talking about the city or Ronald Reagan's favorite president, Grover?


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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2011, 04:03:04 PM »
I think Labor Day has been co-opted by commies/unions rather than them being the impetus for it. Isn't that an accurate assessment?

That sounds about right, as far as I can tell.  But there was plenty of crossover between unions and communists back in those days.  Communism seemed like a good idea at the time.
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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2011, 04:04:11 PM »
Um, it looks like William Z. Foster was one year old when Labor Day was founded in 1882.

Yes, he was.  I used him as an example of the communists behind the "labor movement", not that he was responsible for founding the holiday.

You or somebody stuck a link up here on the founding of labor day and how the date here differs from the International one held in May because Cleveland didn't want ours associated with communism.  Bwaha.


Are you talking about the city or Ronald Reagan's favorite president, Grover?



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Following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike.[4] The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would be associated with the nascent Communist, Syndicalist and Anarchist movements that, though distinct from one another, had rallied to commemorate the Haymarket Affair in International Workers' Day.

Link above.
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2011, 04:05:11 PM »
Are you talking about the city or Ronald Reagan's favorite president, Grover?

I thought Reagan's favorite President was Calvin Coolidge.
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« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2011, 04:20:24 PM »
Pan's right though, that Peter J McGuire - the man who it seems pressed Cleveland into reconciling with the unions and declaring Labor Day, was indeed a socialist, whose agenda was to achieve socialism through organized labor.
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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2011, 05:06:38 PM »

As a casual observer it appears that all of these organized movements occur at a point in time that the events would have occurred naturally.  In other words, the eighteen hour, twelve hour, work day etc. were already on their way out.

Two recent "movement" examples:

Abolition (no intent to re-fight the war) - slavery was on  the outs, mechanization was increasing exponentially and daily slavery was becoming less profitable while mechanization was increasing profitability.  Slavery would have ended and they would have assimilated into culture so well that today it would be a footnote in history.

The civil rights movement - The USAF had integrated before 1950. There was a new generation of people who thought the idea of two drinking fountains, one marked "white" and the other marked "colored" was stupid (especially when the water tasted just the same).  Integration was an inevitability.  Instead of integration the "movement" leaders and "political" leaders achieved the equivalent of a second reconstruction.



 

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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2011, 09:49:45 AM »
Pan's right though, that Peter J McGuire - the man who it seems pressed Cleveland into reconciling with the unions and declaring Labor Day, was indeed a socialist, whose agenda was to achieve socialism through organized labor.

McGuire would have been a better example for me to use than Foster; as rickl pointed out, Foster came later, McGuire was the instigator.
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