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Illegal Workers Used Tax Credit to Pocket $4.2 Billion, Audit Shows
Published September 02, 2011

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Talk about a tax loophole.

Undocumented workers collected $4.2 billion in a certain tax credit last year, up from less than $1 billion five years ago, according to a new audit.

The report from the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration looked only at a tax benefit known as the Additional Child Tax Credit, a refundable credit meant for working families. The audit found that as a result of vague U.S. law -- as well as an expansion of the tax credit in stimulus legislation and other measures -- the number of illegal workers collecting the money has skyrocketed.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/02/undocumented-workers-poc...Posted at 03:30 PM ET, 09/02/2011

Undocumented workers got billions from IRS in tax credits, audit finds By Lisa Rein


This story has been updated.

The Internal Revenue Service allowed undocumented workers to collect $4.2 billion in refundable tax credits last year, a new audit says, almost quadruple the sum five years ago.

Although undocumented workers are not eligible for federal benefits, the report released Thursday by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration concludes that federal law is ambiguous on whether these workers qualify for a tax break based on earned income called the additional child tax credit.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/undocumented-workers-got-billions-from-irs-in-tax-credits-audit-finds/2011/03/23/gIQAhtaKvJ_blog.html?hpid=z3
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 10:22:46 PM »
 ::falldownshocked::


Shocked, I'm just shocked I tell ya





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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 10:25:48 PM »
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Shocked, I'm just shocked I tell ya





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Check it out now there's even more. My PC was attacked by the PC Police, known as the google liberals ::pokeineye::

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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 10:40:08 PM »
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The IRS said it lacks the authority to disallow the claims.

I can tell you they damn well think they can disallow every other claim!

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Hatch said in a statement.. “With our debt standing at over $14.5 trillion and counting, it’s outrageous that the IRS is handing out refundable tax credits...to those who aren’t even eligible to work in this country.”


really? They get college tuition, medical care and anything else the libs can steal from the rest of us TERRORISTS

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Wage earners who do not have Social Security numbers and are not authorized to work in the United States can use what the IRS calls individual taxpayer identification numbers. Often these result in fraudulent claims on tax returns, auditors found.
 
Their data showed that 72 percent of returns filed with taxpayer identification numbers claimed the child tax credit.

Who'd thunk it? ::falldownshocked::

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IRS officials, in response to a draft of the report, agreed to consult with the Treasury Department on the law. But they said they have no legal authority to demand that filers prove their legal status when the tax agency processes returns.

 ::bashing:: So just give 'em the money
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 11:12:06 PM »
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The IRS said it lacks the authority to disallow the claims.

I can tell you they damn well think they can disallow every other claim!

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Hatch said in a statement.. “With our debt standing at over $14.5 trillion and counting, it’s outrageous that the IRS is handing out refundable tax credits...to those who aren’t even eligible to work in this country.”


really? They get college tuition, medical care and anything else the libs can steal from the rest of us TERRORISTS

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Wage earners who do not have Social Security numbers and are not authorized to work in the United States can use what the IRS calls individual taxpayer identification numbers. Often these result in fraudulent claims on tax returns, auditors found.
 
Their data showed that 72 percent of returns filed with taxpayer identification numbers claimed the child tax credit.

Who'd thunk it? ::falldownshocked::

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IRS officials, in response to a draft of the report, agreed to consult with the Treasury Department on the law. But they said they have no legal authority to demand that filers prove their legal status when the tax agency processes returns.

 ::bashing:: So just give 'em the money

   ::falldownshocked:: ready to say: They can't do that they don't have SS cards.

Oh, that's OK buddy, step over to line B and we'll fix you up with a "tax identification number" - you don't need no stinkin' SS number to collect from Uncle Sam.  ::cussing::




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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 12:25:56 AM »
So, how do taxpayers revolt? We are being illegally robbed, and our productivity is being squandered, handed out to someone who does not even belong here. The federal government will not acknowledge thaqt they don't belong here, or that giving them our money is wrong, illegal, and immoral.

How do we revolt?
"A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means."

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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2011, 12:30:37 AM »
So, how do taxpayers revolt? We are being illegally robbed, and our productivity is being squandered, handed out to someone who does not even belong here. The federal government will not acknowledge thaqt they don't belong here, or that giving them our money is wrong, illegal, and immoral.

How do we revolt?


I think it has to be like those townhalls a couple of summers ago--only more often -- showing up everywhere
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2011, 12:34:50 AM »
So, how do taxpayers revolt? We are being illegally robbed, and our productivity is being squandered, handed out to someone who does not even belong here. The federal government will not acknowledge thaqt they don't belong here, or that giving them our money is wrong, illegal, and immoral.

How do we revolt?


I think it has to be like those townhalls a couple of summers ago--only more often -- showing up everywhere

They were caught by surprise with those townhalls. They're not letting it happen anymore.
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2011, 11:16:33 AM »
So, how do taxpayers revolt? We are being illegally robbed, and our productivity is being squandered, handed out to someone who does not even belong here. The federal government will not acknowledge thaqt they don't belong here, or that giving them our money is wrong, illegal, and immoral.

How do we revolt?

A fella by the name of Billy Beck prescribed the method at least a decade ago:  stop paying them.  Period.  Pay no taxes, no fees, no permits.  Six people alone can't do it and escape unscathed; six/sixty million would.

In a way, it's a Cloward-Piven strategy; one overloads "the system" with peaceful civil disobedience causing it to break down.  This time, it wouldn't be the bad overwhelming the good, but just the opposite.

This requires a radical life-restructure for most people who just want to go to work, pay the bills and taxes, obey the laws, and expect to be left alone, i.e. "how can I not pay taxes when they're taken out of my pay?"

Many, many people are appalled by what's done to them, and to other people, by the TSA at the airport, but still they won't stop flying, citing need.

I often wonder if one day, after there has been shooting, these resistant folks won't look back and wish they had re-arranged their lives to accommodate the more peaceful method.
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2011, 06:19:11 PM »

Some people, people I've known for years, I describe to them what is happening and they snickery/sneer.
Then I ask them if it would have been tolerated in 1959 (they are old enough to know) and without hesitation
they say, no.  Then I ask why do you tolerate it and they say; well, that's the way it is.

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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2011, 06:29:43 PM »

Some people, people I've known for years, I describe to them what is happening and they snickery/sneer.
Then I ask them if it would have been tolerated in 1959 (they are old enough to know) and without hesitation
they say, no.  Then I ask why do you tolerate it and they say; well, that's the way it is.

 ::facepalm::



People are afraid to face the implications of truly, decisively doing what is necessary to restore the republic. It involves too much personal risk. Even the most ardent can only bring themselves to attend rallies, work for a political solution, and vote. One more day of living life with the illusion of liberty at the cost of watching it slip away. And another day. And another. I am guilty. I put my hope in 2012, even as I watch tyranny manifest in our midst.

But the real remedies will taste far more bitter than rallies and the voting booth, and those remedies will not come until the transgressions get so bad, that tens or hundreds of thousands - if not millions - are willing to risk the ramifications. Even then, nothing is guaranteed but hardship.

If we could only look around at one another now, before TSHTF, and trust one another to be there come hell or high water, we could try something like a mass tax protest, or a massive demonstration in DC. But everyone will be looking for someone else to go first.
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2011, 07:54:31 PM »
Going Galt works too.  I am not full Galt, just a modified Galt.  I am in a position where I am making what I need, I could make a hell of a lot more but pay more taxes in doing so.  I see no reason to do that, since all it will do is reward those who don't deserve it...politicians and parasites!

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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 09:39:44 PM »
Do you people really think that a "first shot" needs to be fired by the other side? While this crap goes on and our Reoublic is destroyed before our very eyes? They don't need to fire any shots at all, do they?
Will anybody be proud of saying "At least I didn't act violently!"?
And you all know damn well that our Forefathers would be shooting by now...and probably at us as well!

Gotta step back again.
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 10:45:14 PM »
I think a lot of hits have been taken by us Dan, that's for sure, and none of it sits well with me.  But there just are not enough of the prepared to act now to be able to do anything but go out in a blaze of glory.  While I am not looking for the latter I have no great fear of it either if it comes.  Need more allies.  It is the mistake the south made (OK nobody beat me up on this, not looking for another throw-down!) in the Civil War.  They may have tried to use the right arguments, but what they were defending in practice didn't jive with what they said they were fighting for.  It's the hearts & minds argument.  Call me selfish and old fashioned, but I want the moral high ground, the constitutional high ground and the weight of a lot of people with me in that kind of fight.  We just are not there yet.  And our nation has precious little, if any, time left to rectify the situation.  Once peaceful means have been recognized as exhausted the flare goes up.  IMO opinion this next election could very well be the last free and peaceful one. After that we will know where we are headed...
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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 10:55:43 PM »
*sigh*  Dan stepped away again?  That boy needs to stockpile the testosterone for later when we'll all need it.

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Re: Audit Shows that $4.2 Billion in Tax Credits were used by Illegal Workers
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2011, 11:22:32 PM »
Do you people really think that a "first shot" needs to be fired by the other side? While this crap goes on and our Reoublic is destroyed before our very eyes? They don't need to fire any shots at all, do they?
Will anybody be proud of saying "At least I didn't act violently!"?
And you all know damn well that our Forefathers would be shooting by now...and probably at us as well!

Gotta step back again.

I don't think we fired the first shots.
I think the Redcoats fired first.
I think the Redcoats drew first blood.