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Benjamin Franklin's Response to obama's Jobs Act of 2011
« on: September 14, 2011, 10:25:33 AM »
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/ben_franklin_skewers_obamas_jobs_proposal.html


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"Ben Franklin's essay, "On the Price of Corn and the Management of the Poor," directly responds to President Obama's jobs proposals.  And indeed, it nearly encapsulates the entire message we conservatives have for our president on the matter of taxing the wealthy and addressing poverty."   

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Ben Franklin said this to the King of England over 200 years ago, and I say it is totally applicable today from Obama's Jobs act of 2011:

"In short, you offered a premium for the encouragement of idleness, and you should not now wonder that it has had its effect in the increase of poverty."

No one could say it any better today!!
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Re: Benjamin Franklin's Response to obama's Jobs Act of 2011
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2011, 11:46:33 AM »
Ben had a lot of good things to say on poverty, individual responsibility and economics!

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But not one of the Founders would agree with the crap Obama and his socialist trash are pushing, not a one!

"[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." - James Madison, 1794 — speech in the House of Representatives, Elliot's Debates

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." - Benjamin Franklin, 1766 — On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, Vindicating the Founders, West, 135

"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." - Thomas Paine, 1776 — The American Crisis, No. 1, Paine, Collected Writings, Library of America p.91

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition." - Thomas Jefferson, 781 — Notes on Virginia, Query 19, Writings, Peterson ed., Library of America (290-1)












We are now where The Founders were when they faced despotism.

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Re: Benjamin Franklin's Response to obama's Jobs Act of 2011
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2011, 12:40:37 PM »
Ben had a lot of good things to say on poverty, individual responsibility and economics!

 ::thumbsup::

But not one of the Founders would agree with the crap Obama and his socialist trash are pushing, not a one!

"[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." - James Madison, 1794 — speech in the House of Representatives, Elliot's Debates

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." - Benjamin Franklin, 1766 — On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, Vindicating the Founders, West, 135

"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." - Thomas Paine, 1776 — The American Crisis, No. 1, Paine, Collected Writings, Library of America p.91

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition." - Thomas Jefferson, 781 — Notes on Virginia, Query 19, Writings, Peterson ed., Library of America (290-1)





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One generation passes on to the next knowledge it has obtained for survival.
Today, "poverty" is a lifestyle not an unfortunate event.
As long as we allow poverty to be defined by a government whose perpetuation
depends on votes from the "poor" growth of the impoverished will increase.

Ownership of real property is the simple definer of who may vote and who may not.


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Re: Benjamin Franklin's Response to obama's Jobs Act of 2011
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2011, 12:52:32 PM »
Ben had a lot of good things to say on poverty, individual responsibility and economics!

 ::thumbsup::

But not one of the Founders would agree with the crap Obama and his socialist trash are pushing, not a one!

"[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government." - James Madison, 1794 — speech in the House of Representatives, Elliot's Debates

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." - Benjamin Franklin, 1766 — On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, Vindicating the Founders, West, 135

"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." - Thomas Paine, 1776 — The American Crisis, No. 1, Paine, Collected Writings, Library of America p.91

"Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition." - Thomas Jefferson, 781 — Notes on Virginia, Query 19, Writings, Peterson ed., Library of America (290-1)





 ::thumbsup::


One generation passes on to the next knowledge it has obtained for survival.
Today, "poverty" is a lifestyle not an unfortunate event.
As long as we allow poverty to be defined by a government whose perpetuation
depends on votes from the "poor" growth of the impoverished will increase.

Ownership of real property is the simple definer of who may vote and who may not.



That's the way it started!

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Property owner = vested citizen = qualified voter!

If you are not a contributing stakeholder in the system, you are not qualified to vote!  And to allow unqualified people to vote dilutes the votes of the qualified and thus diminshes the liberty of all!

We've been going down the socialist path...diluting responsible voters and diminishing liberty for quite some time...the ground was made fertile for the kind of fertilizer being spread by The Great Destroyer, the Lord High Obama...and we are at the end of the line to fix this mess...if not now, it never will happen and deeper into the abyss we'll go...

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Re: Benjamin Franklin's Response to obama's Jobs Act of 2011
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2011, 08:45:50 PM »
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Re: Benjamin Franklin's Response to obama's Jobs Act of 2011
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 07:47:05 AM »
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