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Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« on: September 18, 2011, 10:23:02 AM »
Dear Patriot,
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"Yesterday, we announced our intention to support LTC Allen West in his re-election campaign to Congress. We received a ton of response from our fellow patriots suggesting the LTC West should set his sights on higher office, namely that many of you would like to see LTC Allen West replace Barack Obama as leader of the free world. Rep. West has repeatedly said that he will seek neither the Presidency nor the Senate in 2012, but clearly he has shown the leadership qualities that would qualify him for higher office. Strategically, we agree with Rep. West's decision to seek re-election and continue to build on his exemplary record of public service.
 
It is extremely rare for freshman members of Congress to actually pass legislation. They usually lack the seniority and relationships required to advance legislation past the labyrinth of Congressional procedure but that did not stop Congressman West. In April, the house unanimously approved a bill offered by LTC West that cuts the Pentagon's bloated printing budget by 10%. The house vote was an incredible 393 - 0!  If LTC West can continue to build a record of bi-partisan, fiscally responsible accomplishment in the House of Representatives it would certainly bolster his Presidential resume.
 
If LTC Allen West seems like Presidential material to you, if you would like to see him someday take a larger leadership role in our nation, he needs your help to get there. Democrats will do everything they can to destroy black conservatives because they threaten their cherished but completely bogus narrative that they are the party that supports minorities. When a Republican nominated Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court, the liberals forgot their diversity and instead launched a vicious, vulgar, and vile smear campaign.  LTC West is rated by nearly every respected political analyst as one of the most vulnerable Republicans in 2012. That is why our team has bought the domain name AllenWest Defense Fund.com and have made this race one of our highest priorities!"

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A big NO on that, in fact, Hell NO! Give the Man time to steep for Christ's sake. He just got into Office. I noticed many forums before the People went nuts if a Politician Farted. Make them President! Also, really like Michele Bachmann, but she isn't ready for Prime Time, and is now paying dearly for it. She is a very good Congress Woman with much potential but, I feel she got caught up in the Sarah Palin moment, and jumped the gun.

Don't get me wrong, I am very excited about the new Candidates in the Republican part, but they need to grow, and give us a chance to watch them do that. I truly believe Rubio, West, Christie, and Jindal will give us years of great service, many of this group to higher Office. Lets clean out the RINO Senate, strengthen our base in the House, and elect someone with Political Experience, like Perry or "PALIN" hint! hint! ::new year::  
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2011, 10:42:07 AM »
I agree. Conservatives who spend their energy pining for the conservative version of Barack Obama - not as in race, but as in "rockstar" - are barking up the wrong tree.

All we know about West is that he's brave under fire, he follows his conscience unashamedly, he's articulate and adept at scathing comments, has a proper perspective on Islam, and serves up anti-Left red-meat soundbites like no other.

Are those qualities of a great president? Perhaps so. But it is not the sum-total. The office of President is too important to place into the hands of "flavor of the day". We've been shown that in a most devastating way, and we ought not be eager to repeat the mistake.

That said, were he the nominee for the GOP I would shout "hallelujah!" to the heavens and cast my vote eagerly.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 10:59:23 AM »
I agree. Conservatives who spend their energy pining for the conservative version of Barack Obama - not as in race, but as in "rockstar" - are barking up the wrong tree.

All we know about West is that he's brave under fire, he follows his conscience unashamedly, he's articulate and adept at scathing comments, has a proper perspective on Islam, and serves up anti-Left red-meat soundbites like no other.

Are those qualities of a great president? Perhaps so. But it is not the sum-total. The office of President is too important to place into the hands of "flavor of the day". We've been shown that in a most devastating way, and we ought not be eager to repeat the mistake.

That said, were he the nominee for the GOP I would shout "hallelujah!" to the heavens and cast my vote eagerly.


Me Too! ::thumbsup::

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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 12:11:47 PM »
I've been advocating Palin/West for months.  Given four* or eight years of seasoning as VP, he'll automatically become the frontrunner.

(*The next president may well be a one-termer, particularly if he or she seriously attempts to address our economic problems.  That will be guaranteed to piss off a lot of people.)
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 12:36:45 PM »
I've been advocating Palin/West for months.  Given four* or eight years of seasoning as VP, he'll automatically become the frontrunner.

(*The next president may well be a one-termer, particularly if he or she seriously attempts to address our economic problems.  That will be guaranteed to piss off a lot of people.)


He would get the seasoning needed, and could relieve her in 8 years, ready to hit the ground running. Yep! I could definitely go for it!

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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 08:02:08 PM »
I truly believe Rubio, West, Christie, and Jindal will give us years of great service, many of this group to higher Office.

FIFY. You don't want the RINO Jindal any where near a campaign of any kind. He's better at raising money than leading. ::rockethrow::
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 08:41:52 PM »
^^ No.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 09:14:33 PM »
I would not vote for Allen West.
Period

He voted with Boner on all  the big issues.

I respect his courage and service and willingness to speak out.
Guess he's sort of a maverick. At least as far as a black politician.

Show me the important issues he has gone in a conservative, anti-establishment direction

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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 09:53:12 PM »

They pulled that senior rank, we are a team on him and he fell for it. He forgot he's an insurgent......or does he have a plan...   
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 11:07:48 PM »
Hell, I'd vote for anything running against obama.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 11:14:02 PM »
Hell, I'd vote for anything running against obama.

I'm with you. I guess I do have my limits, but practically speaking, Obama needs to go.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 11:43:33 PM »
Well, when we do have a nominee, Frank J. Flemming at IMAO has discovered the NYTs hit piece just waiting to insert [fill in the blank]'s name.

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The presidency of George W. Bush was an awful time for this country, and we can all be thankful that time is over now that we have President Obama. Bush was horrible to this country, getting us into unnecessary wars which, along with his tax cuts for the rich, drove us deep into debt. He left a giant mess for Obama to inherit, and people often thought he was the worst president imaginable. That was until the Republicans nominated [Republican nominee], who is easily ten times worse than Bush.

The Republicans could have nominated someone moderate and reasonable like [Republican primary candidate who lost], but instead they’ve decided to try and push this country in a radical direction with the extreme right-wing [Republican nominee]. He/she is nothing but a retread of the failed policies of the past and makes even George W. Bush look moderate in comparison. Plus, he/she simply lacks the intelligence and demeanor that President Obama has. If we want to continue to move forward, it’s imperative we stop [Republican nominee].

Just look at his/her extreme view [Republican nominee view 1]. This is radically out of the mainstream and completely out of touch with the needs of the American people. In fact, it could easily create great harm to [vulnerable group who tends to vote]. At least Bush had the pretense of compassionate conservatism, but [Republican nominee view 1] shows that [Republican nominee] is completely uncaring. And as many people have said, [talking point on Republican nominee view 1].

And then there’s [Republican nominee]‘s opinion [Republican nominee view 2]. It’s almost hard to believe. He/she is basically proposing to set the rights of [protected group] back one hundred years. How can someone in this day and age actually argue [Republican nominee view 2]? This is once again thinking that is stuck in the past and won’t continue to move the country forward like President Obama has done. Plus it’s well known that [talking point on Republican nominee view 2].

As for the economy, what has [Republican nominee] proposed? [Republican nominee proposal for the economy]. You have to be kidding me. It’s a lopsided tax cut for the rich at the expense of the poor and the elderly. Obviously, [Republican nominee] is beholden to the unreasonable, extreme views of the Tea Party. His/her ideas are nothing like the balanced approach Obama has proposed with [Obama economic proposal, if available]. Only that approach will continue the progress Obama has already made.

One has to wonder about the intelligence of someone who would believe such radical views as [Republican nominee view 1] and [Republican nominee view 2] and has an economic plan of [Republican nominee proposal for the economy]. People used to question Bush’s intelligence in jest, but at least he was educated at Yale and Harvard and thus had some wisdom about the world. [Republican nominee], on the other hand, is truly a dunce, as we’ve seen with such statements as [gaffe 1] and [gaffe 2]. Does anyone really think [demeaning nickname for Republican nominee] stacks up against the intelligence and poise of President Obama?

That's the first half. The rest may be found here.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2011, 08:14:34 AM »
Such dreamings only underscore the dissatisfaction people have with the current slate...

With Bachmann being destroyed from within and without over a trivial matter, who is left to carry the Tea Party conservative torch?

If Palin doesn't jump in I may jump out!
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2011, 08:40:55 AM »
Libertas, I know the feeling.

Out of desperation, I sometimes find myself considering Ron Paul
Then I slap myself to get a grip.

Perry or Romney?
Neither
I'm so tired of holding my nose to pull the lever

Even the "anybody but Obama" argument is wearing thin.

We are given terrible choices.
Bad or worse

All the choices lead us further away from Founding Principles.

We have Big Government and Pretty Big, just not quite as big.

Even though I believe we have passed Peak America, there is a little Don Quixote in me that will still tilt at windmills.
But, which one?

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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2011, 08:50:41 AM »
It is shaping up to be a take-this-far-less-than-desireable-GOP-candidate or not type election...

I am not going to vote for someone simply because I loath Obama.  That I loath Obama is beyond question, but mediocre doesn't cut it for me anymore...

I'll go Galt and let the world die before I compromise my principles and beliefs, and if that hastens the final reckoning then so be it...
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2011, 09:16:23 AM »
I just want someone to kick BO's ass. It can be any of the candidates except for Ron Paul (insane) or Huntsman (Democrat).

The real work needs to come from Congress, anyway. Need more conservatives in the legislature. Having the second coming of Reagan would be useless without proper support in the House and Senate.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2011, 10:14:02 AM »
Trap, I agree with that but Obama has shown the power of rule by Executive Order.

Congress has pretty much become powerless and hardly shown themselves to be defenders of Liberty and Freedom

Any Republican (like Bush) can still do plenty of damage and increase the size of gov


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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2011, 10:28:56 AM »
I just want someone to kick BO's ass. It can be any of the candidates except for Ron Paul (insane)...

I've been quite surprised at reputable polls showing Ron Paul within striking distance of Obama. I wonder if it's because he peels away from the Dem anti-war base? I don't know how to explain it.

But as bizarre as I think he is, there are some things I think one would be able to take for granted in a President Ron Paul. He would treat the constitution as sacrosanct. He would not sign bills that expand government. He would demand shrinking of government. He would demand the closing and dismantling of entire agencies. He would demand restructuring of the tax code. He would treat US fiscal policy heretofore as having been unconstitutional and detrimental to the wealth and security of the people. He would not shy away from what needs to happen with entitlements.

If these positions were being espoused by someone with a measured temperament, who held more realistic views on drugs and national defense, and who didn't sound like somebody's crazy shrill uncle every time he talked, we'd be singing his high praises.

I would cast a vote for Ron Paul before I would cast a vote for Mitt Romney. And, God help me, I would cast a vote for Mitt Romney if it comes to it.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2011, 10:59:07 AM »
I don't see it as against my principles if I had to vote for, oh, Romney....Or Paul. There is not anyone here who is in lockstep with every candidate, so it would be reasonable to surmise you compromise your principles every time you vote. So I don't buy the argument, but I do see it as frustration with a party that seems to lose its rudder at times.

I feel I compromise my principles, my beliefs, my family, if I don't do everythig within my power to kick a socialist out of the White House....and his friends. I compare it favorably as a young, newly married guy who needed to support his family....So I held my nose and took some jobs most would feel is beneath them, but I had a family to think of and support, it wasn't just about me anymore.
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Re: Would you vote for Pres. Allen West?
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2011, 11:26:35 AM »
Trap, I agree with that but Obama has shown the power of rule by Executive Order.

Congress has pretty much become powerless and hardly shown themselves to be defenders of Liberty and Freedom

Any Republican (like Bush) can still do plenty of damage and increase the size of gov



Yup!
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