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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2011, 11:58:25 PM »
Maybe not.  May be, in the long run, this is to our benefit.  No offense to my current (trap's son) and former military friends, but ....

They're forcing the patriots out of the military.  To me, that means more of them in the general population, and a good many of them take their oaths very seriously.  What the services will have left, for now, are the incompetent, the stupid, and the gay, mix and match as necessary, who may or may not have any compunctions about following orders to subdue the civilian population, which will now include ..... see above.

Or am I looking at this all wrong?

That's half of them, the other half are the bulls, they will love the military and their loyalty  will be to their patrón.



I think we can handle 'em.  What say you?
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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2011, 12:06:48 AM »

We need the military on our side defending the Constitution.


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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2011, 12:13:17 AM »

We need the military on our side defending the Constitution.



And we'll have 'em.  They just won't be enlisted.

Tell me, just where do you stand on gay "marriage"?
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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2011, 12:25:13 AM »

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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2011, 07:43:47 AM »
Marines Hit the Ground Running in Seeking Recruits at Gay Center
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/us/marine-recruiters-visit-gay-center-in-oklahoma.html?_r=2&hp

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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2011, 07:12:17 PM »
This is, in my opinion, a good piece, h/t to Rigpa:

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Make no mistake, this issue is not about acceptance; it is about the desperate compulsion that some in the homosexual community have to celebrate their lifestyle. That is the problem: It is all about them, not the country, not their service and not their comrades.

Maj. Darrel Choat, U.S. Marine Corps, is a good example. His essay on the subject in Tuesday’s edition of The Washington Post contained the words “me,” “my” and “I” 41 times; the term “us” in reference to the Marine Corps was not used, and “our” was only used once. In his missive, he complains that not one senior Marine general officer “set a leadership tone that will turn the page on the prejudice of the past.” Maj. Choat and his cronies in the homosexual community will not be happy until there is a gay pride month to celebrate their heritage to match similar celebrations of diversity for blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and people from the Pacific Rim.
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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2011, 07:26:29 PM »
::facepalm::

There was a homo couple living several doors down from us when we first moved here.  One of the guys wrote for some indy publication and made a point of discussing with me his latest piece, after a short interval of limited acquaintance, on how much more vulnerable female genitals are to HIV infection due to tearing and abrasion.

Think about the ironies of that for a minute.

Did you say, "Really? What then, of the male anus?"



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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2011, 09:57:38 PM »
This is, in my opinion, a good piece, h/t to Rigpa:

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Make no mistake, this issue is not about acceptance; it is about the desperate compulsion that some in the homosexual community have to celebrate their lifestyle. That is the problem: It is all about them, not the country, not their service and not their comrades.

Maj. Darrel Choat, U.S. Marine Corps, is a good example. His essay on the subject in Tuesday’s edition of The Washington Post contained the words “me,” “my” and “I” 41 times; the term “us” in reference to the Marine Corps was not used, and “our” was only used once. In his missive, he complains that not one senior Marine general officer “set a leadership tone that will turn the page on the prejudice of the past.” Maj. Choat and his cronies in the homosexual community will not be happy until there is a gay pride month to celebrate their heritage to match similar celebrations of diversity for blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and people from the Pacific Rim.

The comments at the linked article affirm every word of his piece. The homos are shouting out, "We're here; we're queer; and there ain't a damned thing you can do about it".

I no longer have to concern myself about the prospect of a child of mine joining the military under such circumstances but I grieve for the parents who do. There is no way that I would submit to these conditions.

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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2011, 08:05:15 AM »
This is, in my opinion, a good piece, h/t to Rigpa:

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Make no mistake, this issue is not about acceptance; it is about the desperate compulsion that some in the homosexual community have to celebrate their lifestyle. That is the problem: It is all about them, not the country, not their service and not their comrades.

Maj. Darrel Choat, U.S. Marine Corps, is a good example. His essay on the subject in Tuesday’s edition of The Washington Post contained the words “me,” “my” and “I” 41 times; the term “us” in reference to the Marine Corps was not used, and “our” was only used once. In his missive, he complains that not one senior Marine general officer “set a leadership tone that will turn the page on the prejudice of the past.” Maj. Choat and his cronies in the homosexual community will not be happy until there is a gay pride month to celebrate their heritage to match similar celebrations of diversity for blacks, Hispanics, American Indians and people from the Pacific Rim.

The comments at the linked article affirm every word of his piece. The homos are shouting out, "We're here; we're queer; and there ain't a damned thing you can do about it".

I no longer have to concern myself about the prospect of a child of mine joining the military under such circumstances but I grieve for the parents who do. There is no way that I would submit to these conditions.

I have an old family friend, his eldest boy graduated from Annapolis last spring, he is training in Pensacola to be a chopper pilot...wants to be either in an attack bird or rescue bird.  He is melding into a fine Marine but I wonder what stupidity he'll be running into and how that will impact how long he stays in.  If I were still in these decisions would not be sitting well with me one bit.  There is going to be trouble over this, and the Left and the gay community is going to have a field day as they bully their way through the services...

It's not too far fetched to conceive a point in time in the not too distant future that our military morphs into a morally depraved anything goes social experiment gone amok and our readiness and capability isn't even a shadow of its former self.

I weep for the future...but am too angry in the present to hold anything but rage and contempt for those who perpetrated this atrocity!
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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2011, 09:29:25 AM »


Which is a long and anecdotal way of saying that I think the push for homosexual marriage is more about the destruction of heterosexual marriage and undermining the traditional family in service of Leftism than the queers and their Leftist enablers will let on.
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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2011, 10:19:57 AM »


Which is a long and anecdotal way of saying that I think the push for homosexual marriage is more about the destruction of heterosexual marriage and undermining the traditional family in service of Leftism than the queers and their Leftist enablers will let on.
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Exactly! And like the socialists who have been emboldened by the election of the O'Hole, they aren't even trying to hide it, anymore. They ADMITTED that the main motivation for pushing the DADT repeal was to force "gay" "marriage" on society, yet people who should have more sense are closing their eyes to that reality, because they may have a "gay" family member whom they have sympathy for.

That's what's so frustrating to me. They claim they just want to be left alone, and do what they want in the privacy of their bedrooms, but then they march in the streets BRAGGING about what they are doing in their bedrooms? Talk about hypocrisy!

For the homo-activists, this is all about forcing their "lifestyle" on society and CRIMINALIZING criticism of it. It's only just begun.....

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Re: I'm not asking, why do you have to tell?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2011, 05:39:03 PM »
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Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, who has been targeted by gay rights groups in the past, was asked by a moderator at the Fox News-Google debate in Orlando Thursday night about the repeal this week of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy toward openly gay and lesbian service members serving in the military.
 
“In 2010, when I was deployed to Iraq, I had to lie about who I was, because I’m a gay soldier, and I didn’t want to lose my job,” said Stephen Hill, whose image was projected on a large TV screen in the debate hall. “My question is, under one of your presidencies, do you intend to circumvent the progress that’s been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military?”
 
Members of the crowd booed loudly at the question.
 
Santorum launched into an impassioned defense of re-instating the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.
 
“I would say, any type of sexual activity has absolutely no place in the military,” he said. “And the fact that they’re making a point to include it as a provision within the military that we are going to recognize a group of people and give them a special privilege to — to — and removing “don’t ask/don’t tell” I think tries to inject social policy into the military. And the military’s job is to do one thing, and that is to defend our country.”
 
Applause grew in the audience as he added, “We need to give the military, which is all-volunteer, the ability to do so in a way that is most efficient at protecting our men and women in uniform. And I believe this undermines that ability.”

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“I would … just say that, going forward, we would … reinstitute that policy, if Rick Santorum was president, period. That policy would be reinstituted. And as far as people who are in … I would not throw them out, because that would be unfair to them because of the policy of this administration, but we would move forward in … conformity with what was happening in the past, which was, sex is not an issue. … It should not be an issue. Leave it alone, keep it … to yourself, whether you’re a heterosexual or a homosexual.”
 
The crowd in Orlando cheered wildly at Santorum’s answer.



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